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The Third Reich : a novel (alkuperäinen julkaisuvuosi 2010; vuoden 2011 painos)

Tekijä: Roberto Bolaño, Natasha Wimmer

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"On vacation with his girlfriend, Ingeborg, the German war-game champion Udo Berger returns to a small town on the Costa Brava where he spent the summers of his childhood. Soon they meet another vacationing German couple, Charly and Hanna, who introduce them to a band of locals--the Wolf, the Lamb, and El Quemado--and to the darker side of life in a resort town. Late one night, Charly disappears without a trace, and Udo's well-ordered life is thrown into upheaval; when Ingeborg and Hanna return to their lives in Germany, he refuses to leave the hotel. Soon, he and El Quemado are enmeshed in a round of Third Reich, his favorite World War II strategy game, and Udo discovers that the game's consequences may be all too real. Written in 1989 and found among Roberto Bolaño's papers after his death, The Third Reich is a stunning exploration of memory and violence. Reading this quick, visceral novel, we see a world-class writer coming into his own--and exploring for the first time the themes that would define his masterpieces The Savage Detectives and 2666"-- "A comedic novel from the author of The Savage Detectives and 2666"--… (lisätietoja)
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Teoksen nimi:The Third Reich : a novel
Kirjailijat:Roberto Bolaño
Muut tekijät:Natasha Wimmer
Info:New York : Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2011.
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I have read a couple of Bolaño's books before, but hadn't known he was a wargamer (as I am) until I saw a Patti Smith photo of some of his games (in "Year of the Monkey"). Not only did he play but he had even written a book about a wargamer! Has anyone else ever done that?! Wargaming and literature don't usually intermingle, especially with an author in the stature of Bolaño.
"The Third Reich" was quite an interesting novel. I even pulled out my copy of the "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" to follow his character's moves in the chapters where he played the game (as best as I could, I have an older edition of the game with unnumbered hexes). But you certainly don't need to know anything about wargaming to enjoy this book. I wondered about the motivation of the narrator at times, and didn't like him all that much, but Bolaño makes him intriguing and the book compelling with interesting and quirky characters.
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  CRChapin | Jul 8, 2023 |
En El Tercer Reich Roberto Bolaño da voz a diversos personajes, disponiéndolos en una suerte de tablero en el que se libra la guerra más antigua de todas: la del nazismo, la de la decadente cultura occidental, la del ser humano contra sí mismo. Se conoce por «juego de guerra» aquel que recrea y simula un enfrentamiento armado a cualquier nivel, sujetándose a reglas para el desarrollo del mismo. El alemán Udo Berger es campeón de esta disciplina en su país. Los juegos de guerra son al tiempo su profesión y su obsesión; ocupan su vida e invaden su pensamiento a todas horas. Incluso durante el viaje que realiza con su novia Ingeborg a la Costa Brava, donde él había veraneado en su infancia, se hace instalar una gran mesa en la habitación del hotel para pensar en las estrategias de su nuevo juego, El Tercer Reich. Una noche, sin embargo, Udo e Ingeborg conocen a otra pareja de alemanes, Charly y Hanna, que les introducirán a un mundo oculto tras las playas y el sol. Un mundo poblado por personajes de dudosa reputación, pasados oscuros y futuros aún más enigmáticos.
  Natt90 | Jul 20, 2022 |
Somehow weird and kafkaesk - I had this constant feeling of there being a secret message hidden message that I just didn´t get. Also had the constant feeling that the protagonist just not behaves like he should regarding his age. Mixed feelings overall! ( )
  iffland | Mar 19, 2022 |
I hang around a lot of board gamers. Grognards, train gamers, heavy euro gamers... folks who would look at you over their glasses if you mentioned Monopoly (full disclosure: I would, too). There's a certain toxic quality to this group, an underlying aggression and self-aggrandizing instinct which might come from focusing too steadily on a single perspective, their own. The authenticity of Bolaño's writing around Avalon Hill's Rise and Decline of the Third Reich (later reimplemented by Advanced Third Reich, then by GMT Games as A World At War) makes me think he must have played at least for a little while, though he tends to parallel gaming with Academia a little too much for me to believe he has ever attended a convention.

How right he gets the culture of a grognard doesn't matter at all, of course, but Bolaño's instinct to draw Udo's particular cloud of evil from that arena shows off his great talent for finding metaphor. He was primarily, after all, a poet.

I highly recommend this sneaky little novel. It is no less important than Bolaño's heavier works, though maybe a little rougher around the edges. I would love to put it together with Hawkes' The Blood Oranges in a class titled: "What I Learned Over Summer Vacation."

Finally, for anyone interested in a recent take on the current version of the game played in this novel I HIGHLY recommend the following essay. It is both humorous and poignant and shows what a phenomenon The Third Reich has evolved into: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/940888/life-altering-game-deserves-kind-session... ( )
1 ääni Adrian_Astur_Alvarez | Dec 3, 2019 |
I hang around a lot of board gamers. Grognards, train gamers, heavy euro gamers... folks who would look at you over their glasses if you mentioned Monopoly (full disclosure: I would, too). There's a certain toxic quality to this group, an underlying aggression and self-aggrandizing instinct which might come from focusing too steadily on a single perspective, their own. The authenticity of Bolaño's writing around Avalon Hill's Rise and Decline of the Third Reich (later reimplemented by Advanced Third Reich, then by GMT Games as A World At War) makes me think he must have played at least for a little while, though he tends to parallel gaming with Academia a little too much for me to believe he has ever attended a convention.

How right he gets the culture of a grognard doesn't matter at all, of course, but Bolaño's instinct to draw Udo's particular cloud of evil from that arena shows off his great talent for finding metaphor. He was primarily, after all, a poet.

I highly recommend this sneaky little novel. It is no less important than Bolaño's heavier works, though maybe a little rougher around the edges. I would love to put it together with Hawkes' The Blood Oranges in a class titled: "What I Learned Over Summer Vacation."

Finally, for anyone interested in a recent take on the current version of the game played in this novel I HIGHLY recommend the following essay. It is both humorous and poignant and shows what a phenomenon The Third Reich has evolved into: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/940888/life-altering-game-deserves-kind-session... ( )
  Adrian_Astur_Alvarez | Dec 3, 2019 |
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Nowhere is it acknowledged either inside or outside the book that The Third Reich is a relatively early work, dating from before 1990 [...] Any innocent reader is likely to be baffled by the book, which wasn't written as a historical novel but has become one. [...] Ignore the suggestion on the slipcase of The Third Reich that it's "the perfect way to discover" Bolaño and start [with By Night in Chile].
 
"The Third Reich" is a fun and engaging read, perfectly suited for your own beach vacation, but the ending does little justice to all that precedes it.

 
Indeed, I kept responding to it like a person living in two times. Mainly I was reading the novel now, and finding it thoroughly, weirdly absorbing. Partly I was reading as if I were an unfortunate editor in around 1990, wondering how I was going to tell Bolaño that this wasn’t quite a finished book yet, that his plot led nowhere, that his characters kept trailing off into incoherence.
 
“The Third Reich” is a mesmerizing tale: sleek, linear, easily digested, beautifully translated. But it cannot pretend to rival Bolano’s mature work. Nor will any serious Bolano fan prefer its trim, conventional story line to his sprawling masterpieces. Yet the book shows Bolano as we’ve hardly seen him before: young, sniffing for new ground, applying old-fashioned suspense to a very modern chaos.
 
In The Third Reich, Bolaño kicks down the wall dividing realism and melodrama, mixing together elements of both and unifying it all with his warm-hearted and sophisticated irony.
 

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"On vacation with his girlfriend, Ingeborg, the German war-game champion Udo Berger returns to a small town on the Costa Brava where he spent the summers of his childhood. Soon they meet another vacationing German couple, Charly and Hanna, who introduce them to a band of locals--the Wolf, the Lamb, and El Quemado--and to the darker side of life in a resort town. Late one night, Charly disappears without a trace, and Udo's well-ordered life is thrown into upheaval; when Ingeborg and Hanna return to their lives in Germany, he refuses to leave the hotel. Soon, he and El Quemado are enmeshed in a round of Third Reich, his favorite World War II strategy game, and Udo discovers that the game's consequences may be all too real. Written in 1989 and found among Roberto Bolaño's papers after his death, The Third Reich is a stunning exploration of memory and violence. Reading this quick, visceral novel, we see a world-class writer coming into his own--and exploring for the first time the themes that would define his masterpieces The Savage Detectives and 2666"-- "A comedic novel from the author of The Savage Detectives and 2666"--

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