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Ladataan... Confessions (vuoden 1970 painos)Tekijä: R. S. Augustine;Pine-Coffin (Tekijä)
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Kirjaudu LibraryThingiin nähdäksesi, pidätkö tästä kirjasta vai et. Ei tämänhetkisiä Keskustelu-viestiketjuja tästä kirjasta. I don't know where to begin in reviewing this. I will just say as a Christian, I would suggest to anyone that delves deeply into the study of Scripture, philosophy, and theology needs to read this work. Both memoir and exploration of Augustine's allegorical beliefs. Definitely something to chew over in the mind and spirit. This translation and the copious notes made the reading much easier for me to follow.
Ruden wishes to “provoke debate and thereby bring more attention to the task of translating this astonishing author.” She succeeds at this, and so does Constantine. Her Augustine is loud; his is quiet. Whose Augustine is right? Both, and neither. The ideal reader of the Confessions will have the two translations open side-by-side, and add more translations to the bookshelf as they are published. Kuuluu näihin kustantajien sarjoihinAd fontes (5) Ancient Philosophy (13) — 47 lisää Colecção "Os Grandes Filósofos" (Livraria A. I. - Braga) Everyman's Library (200) Image Books (D101) Little Blue Books (735) Medallion Penguin Classics (L114) Mentor Books (MY1204) Penguin Classics (L114) The Pocket Library (PL-45) Sisältyy tähän:The Harvard Classics [50 Volume Set] (tekijä: Charles William Eliot) (epäsuora) The Harvard Classics with Lectures [51 volumes] (tekijä: Charles William Eliot) (epäsuora) The Harvard Classics with Lectures and Guide [52 volumes] (tekijä: Charles William Eliot) (epäsuora) The Harvard Classics & Shelf of Fiction [71 volume set] (tekijä: Charles William Eliot) (epäsuora) Sisältää nämä:The Confessions. Books 1-10 (tekijä: Saint Augustine) Prayers from The Confessions (tekijä: Saint Augustine) Saint Augustine's Childhood (tekijä: Saint Augustine) Confessions, Vol. 2: Books 9-13 (tekijä: Augustine) Saint Augustine's Memory (tekijä: Saint Augustine) Lyhennelty täällä:Confessions of a Sinner (tekijä: St. Augustine) Tutkimuksia:Augustine: The Confessions (tekijä: Gillian Clark) Sisältää opiskelijan oppaanPalkinnotNotable Lists
One of the most influential religious books in the Christian tradition recalls crucial events in the author's life: his mid-4th-century origins in rural Algeria; the rise to a lavish lifestyle at the imperial court in Milan; his struggle with sexual desires; eventual renunciation of secular ambitions and marriage; and recovery of his Catholic faith. Kirjastojen kuvailuja ei löytynyt. |
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Could my own strutting pride enjoy a translation inspired by a desire to provide today's youth with a text that is easy to follow, non-poetry formatted to impersonate poetry? Happily yes! Clarity is no fault, and the poetic-like structure works I think. Here's an example where I think it heightens the emotion that Augustine wants to communicate, concerning his state of mind following the death of a close friend when he was a young man. First, Constantine:
Now O'Rourke:
Here's an instance where O'Rourke adds clarity to the passage that in its reference to the Roman god Jupiter would surely have been clearly understood two thousand years ago, but using a strict translation today it isn't quite so clear. Constantine:
Have to admit I didn't quite follow Augustine's point there. What's all that about thunder and why can't you thunder and adultery both? Then I read the O'Rourke:
Aha, Augustine is highlighting the hypocrisy of the gods in classical texts and how this is also present in humans, blustering one way yet behaving in quite another. This regrettable aspect of human nature was copy/pasted onto Roman gods, leaving Augustine unconvinced that what he was reading and teaching to Rome's youth bore witness to actual truth. And one thing the Confessions makes clear, that I didn't really appreciate earlier, is that Augustine was embarked on a long journey in search of Truth from a young age, from reading Cicero to the community of the Manicheans to the philosophy of the Neoplatonists and finally to baptism in the Christian faith after becoming convinced by it after years of first intellectual resistance and then years of a resistance of his will (the famous "make me chaste, but please, not yet" years).
O'Rourke's unique translation is one I would highly recommend then, although he only translated the first 9 of the 13 books of the Confession, those in which Augustine composes the world's first written autobiography in the modern sense. Books 10 through 13 are a philosophy of time and memory, and an exegesis of Genesis. These more academic topics must be read in an academic translation. But O'Rourke gives us Augustine's personal journey of the intellect, of the heart, of the seeker, in a highly relatable reading that can seem quite contemporary.
Or, one might say, there is a light and it never goes out (Morrissey. Not translated.).