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The City & The City (alkuperäinen julkaisuvuosi 2011; vuoden 2009 painos)

– tekijä: China Mieville

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When the body of a murdered woman is found in the extraordinary, decaying city of Beszel, somewhere at the edge of Europe, it looks like a routine case for Inspector Tyador Borlu of the Extreme Crime Squad. But as he probes, the evidence begins to point to conspiracies far stranger, and more deadly, than anything he could have imagined. Soon his work puts him and those he cares for in danger. Borlu must travel to the only metropolis on Earth as strange as his own, across a border like no other.… (lisätietoja)
Jäsen:joshua.denby
Teoksen nimi:The City & The City
Kirjailijat:China Mieville
Info:Del Rey (2009), Hardcover, 336 pages
Kokoelmat:Oma kirjasto
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Toiset (tekijä: China Miéville) (2011)

Viimeisimmät tallentajatJessicaReadsThings, squeagel, Guileless, dunnettreader, jenniferw88, rickrod713, a.c.jones1990, jestrohm, yksityinen kirjasto
PerintökirjastotLeslie Scalapino
  1. 160
    The Yiddish Policemen's Union (tekijä: Michael Chabon) (grizzly.anderson, kaipakartik)
    grizzly.anderson: Both are police procedural mysteries set in slightly alternate worlds.
    kaipakartik: Both are detective tales in alternate settings
  2. 122
    Näkymättömät kaupungit (tekijä: Italo Calvino) (snarkhunt)
    snarkhunt: Calvino's book is a travelogue of impossible societies while China's book is a sweet little noir stuck in the middle of one.
  3. 112
    Neverwhere – maanalainen Lontoo (tekijä: Neil Gaiman) (ahstrick)
  4. 91
    Anathem (tekijä: Neal Stephenson) (chmod007, sturlington)
    chmod007: Both novels depict coexisting-but-dissociated societies — drastically foreign to the world we live in — but help us reflect on it.
  5. 70
    Finch (tekijä: Jeff VanderMeer) (ShelfMonkey)
  6. 60
    Un Lun Dun (tekijä: China Miéville) (heidialice)
    heidialice: May be an obvious recommendation, but these books cover a similar (very original) premise in very different ways. Un Lun Dun is for young teens, smaller in scope and message-heavy; The City & The City for adults, deals with complex themes and offers no easy answers. Both display Mieville's consummate skills and elegant humor.… (lisätietoja)
  7. 60
    Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius [short story] (tekijä: Jorge Luis Borges) (bertilak)
  8. 61
    Orsinian Tales (tekijä: Ursula K. Le Guin) (ed.pendragon)
    ed.pendragon: Le Guin's Orsinia may have been an inspiration for Mieville's mythical Orciny in The City and the City.
  9. 40
    Hav (tekijä: Jan Morris) (ed.pendragon)
    ed.pendragon: Miéville's The City and the City acknowledges Jan Morris as an influence on his fractured cities novel, and Morris' travel book novel Hav (fictional trips to a fictional state) is the most likely reference.
  10. 30
    The Power (tekijä: Naomi Alderman) (charl08)
    charl08: Both books ask questions about what we take for granted in our everyday realtors..
  11. 20
    Shadow & Claw: The First Half of The Book of the New Sun (tekijä: Gene Wolfe) (LamontCranston)
    LamontCranston: In many of Wolfes works he writes like Mieville has in the first person of imagined lands, unlike Mieville his characters do not improbably stop to explain to themselves (and thus to the audience) what a term or reference means - the narrative provides enough information for the audience to figure it out themselves.… (lisätietoja)
  12. 31
    Yöpartio (tekijä: Sergei Lukyanenko) (julienne_preacher)
    julienne_preacher: Both books are about divided realities (and both books are awesome).
  13. 20
    Ways of Worldmaking (tekijä: Nelson Goodman) (sek_smith, sek_smith)
    sek_smith: Ways of World Making explains the cognitive processes that allow us to unsee and,thus, understand. The City & the City is a practical application of the concept, most rigorous and well weaved. Very entertaining fiction with plenty of meaning
    sek_smith: This is not a fiction book, but an essay on relativity applied to epistemology. For many interested in the psychological mechanisms at work in The city & the City, this is a good read.
  14. 31
    Embassytown (tekijä: China Miéville) (Anonyymi käyttäjä)
  15. 20
    New York -trilogia (tekijä: Paul Auster) (Longshanks)
    Longshanks: Two books that expand the scope of detective fiction beyond the genre's traditional concerns and constraints, one existentially and one sociopolitically.
  16. 20
    The Other City (tekijä: Michal Ajvaz) (bunnygirl)
    bunnygirl: Czech novel about an alternate Prague; not mentioned as one of the influences for this novel, but perhaps going on a bit of the same (disputed?) territory
  17. 20
    A Maze of Death (tekijä: Philip K. Dick) (AlanPoulter)
    AlanPoulter: Two tales of paranoia and murder set in very odd worlds that just get stranger....
  18. 20
    The Windup Girl (tekijä: Paolo Bacigalupi) (sturlington)
  19. 31
    Wave without a Shore (tekijä: C. J. Cherryh) (reading_fox)
    reading_fox: Covers the same ground regarding visualising concepts.
  20. 20
    The Kindly Ones (tekijä: Melissa Scott) (sandstone78)
    sandstone78: Similar themes of parallel societies.

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Näyttää 1-5 (yhteensä 326) (seuraava | näytä kaikki)
This is a fascinating book. Both a classic detective story and a fantasy, the latter not normally a genre I'm fond of. It's a page turner with several interesting characters. The writing is terrific, especially the way that the two cities, and the way they intersect, are described. Very visual, lots of fun to read. ( )
  meredk | Aug 1, 2021 |
Great premise: two cites (Beszel and Ul Qoma), with differing cultures and vibes occuping the same space. People living there must deal with their unusual reality, and avoid acknowledging their duality. The main character is Detective Borlu of the Extreme Crime Squad in Beszel who is investigating a murder of a young woman. She had been a bit of a maverick herself, researching the existence of yet another dimension, portrayed as a child's tale. As Borlu investigates and crosses over to Ul Qoma, he and we as readers are drawn further and further into politics, a bigger mystery and conspiracy. Creative and thought-provoking. ( )
  skipstern | Jul 11, 2021 |
A decent murder mystery with an interesting voice, set in a vaguely Easternish European locale where the major defining feature is that two nations exist right on top of each other. The conceit is actually a simple one, and sometimes gets a little over-emphasized as its fundamental concepts are reiterated by the narrator almost every other paragraph, but its novel worldbuilding concept is still used expertly. It has real influence on the plot, dictating what the problems are, how the detective is constrained in solving those problems, and how satisfying the solution is. A good mystery is driven less by the mechanics of the setting and more by all the ways the players try to outdo themselves by using those mechanics, and as a mystery I thought this was satisfying. There were twists and turns, revelations that were foreshadowed but subtly enough to evoke either surprise or a self-satisfied nod, and lively characters that all clashed with each other in engaging ways, all without tripping itself up.

While the science fictional elements are what a lot of people talk about when they talk about The City and The City, as an exercise in worldbuilding it really only provides just enough for the mystery to work, and that mystery is where the meat was. ( )
  bokai | Jul 6, 2021 |
The most interestingly boring book I have read.

The City and the City is the rare book to make a better movie than a book. The core conceit, the two cities laid on top of one another and existing in the same physical space, is intellectually interesting. Visually, it would make for some great CGI-based cinematices with 'unseeing' and the strange way two cultures try to aggressively ignore one another.

But China Mieville is today's Philip K. Dick. The book is philosophically interesting but the characters are dull, the conversations flat, and the noir crime novel buried within this philosophical puzzle has no energy. The characters sit lifeless on the page spouting mostly meaningless dialogue amidst lush backgrounds of imaginative environmental twists and turns. It seems cool but the actual story part of the story gets short shrift. I had to force myself to finish the book and, multiple times, it was the conduit for a quick nap.

The City and the City gets bonus points for being funky science fiction but almost no points as an actual crime novel. Rated: meh. ( )
  multiplexer | Jun 20, 2021 |
This was a great read, and it really made me think about the world around me in a different light. What would 'new' people think if they see all the strange social rituals we have created for society, specific to certain places and cultures.

The world [a:China Mieville|4851070|China Mieville|http://www.goodreads.com/images/nophoto/nophoto-U-50x66.jpg] created is difficult to understand at first, but after finishing the book seems almost normal and is mostly background to the story of characters and crime within.

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  Madjia | Jun 1, 2021 |
Näyttää 1-5 (yhteensä 326) (seuraava | näytä kaikki)
Subtly, almost casually, Miéville constructs a metaphor for modern life in which our habits of "unseeing" allow us to ignore that which does not directly affect our familiar lives. Yet he doesn't encourage us to understand his novel as a parable, rather as a police mystery dealing with extraordinary circumstances. The book is a fine, page-turning murder investigation in the tradition of Philip K Dick, gradually opening up to become something bigger and more significant than we originally suspected.
 
Readers should shed their preconceptions and treat themselves to a highly original and gripping experience.The City & The City is still Urban Fantasy, yes, but don't look for elves on motorcycles or spell-casting cops. China Miéville has done something very different, new, and — oh yeah — weird.
lisäsi PhoenixTerran | muokkaaio9, Chris Hsiang (May 28, 2009)
 
The novel works best when Miéville trusts his storytelling instincts. I was immediately entranced by the premise of doppel cities and didn't need it explained at every turn.

At times, I appreciated the intellectual brilliance of "The City" more than I lost myself in it. Borlú seemed an archetype more than a fleshed-out character. That's OK. The real protagonists here are the mirror cities themselves, and the strange inner workings that make them, and their residents, tick.
 
Miéville’s achievement is at once remarkable and subtle. His overlapping cities take in an aspect of our own world—social conventions—wholesale. But by describing those conventions using conceptual tools borrowed from traditional “worldbuilding” fantasy, he heightens awareness of the unnoticed in our own lives. He doesn’t give us symbols. He gives us real life rendered with all the more clarity for its apparent weirdness.
 

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When the body of a murdered woman is found in the extraordinary, decaying city of Beszel, somewhere at the edge of Europe, it looks like a routine case for Inspector Tyador Borlu of the Extreme Crime Squad. But as he probes, the evidence begins to point to conspiracies far stranger, and more deadly, than anything he could have imagined. Soon his work puts him and those he cares for in danger. Borlu must travel to the only metropolis on Earth as strange as his own, across a border like no other.

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