

Ladataan... The Iliad (vuoden 1998 painos)– tekijä: Homer (Tekijä), Robert Fagles (Kääntäjä), Bernard Knox (Johdanto)
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The centuries old epic about the wrath of Achilles is rendered into modern English verse by a renowned translator and accompanied by an introduction that reassesses the identity of Homer. In Robert Fagles' beautifully rendered text, the Iliad overwhelms us afresh. The huge themes godlike, yet utterly human of savagery and calculation, of destiny defied, of triumph and grief compel our own humanity. Time after time, one pauses and re-reads before continuing. Fagles' voice is always that of a poet and scholar of our own age as he conveys the power of Homer. Robert Fagles and Bernard Knox are to be congratulated and praised on this admirable work. No library descriptions found. |
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I wasn't familiar with the Trojan War and how it came to be. Imagine my surprise when I read it was all due to a squabble over a woman named Helen. The war rages on in the span of 10 years! A LOT of dudes die over this. Helen must've been one hell of a lady.
The scenes where the soldiers engage in combat were graphic. The Greeks certainly loved their violence! Homer doesn't hold back his descriptions of the battles; head getting lopped off, men trying to hold in their innards from spilling and spears being inserted violently into necks.
I found the monologues that two soldiers would have in the midst of battle before they killed one another hilarious. Imagine two guys with swords in hand engaging in conversation in the midst of bloody chaos. The Greeks were very much about honor and were proud to boast about where they came from and who their father was. This they would shout to the other man before fighting to the death. Removing the armor of the loser was also a popular tradition. I found this fascinating.
Oh, and the Gods? Zeus? Apollo? Poseidon? All of them squabble like children. They cry and beg and want to only interfere in the war, choosing sides and helping a soldier from Troy or helping one out from the Greeks. They would sit back from the comfort of Olympus and watch the battle wage on. It was as if they were playing a game of chess only with human lives hanging in the balance.
I was told to read The Iliad before jumping into The Odyssey and I'm glad I did.
Overall I enjoyed the story and I'm happy I leapt into the world of Greek poetry! (