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A Lover's Discourse: Fragments (alkuperäinen julkaisuvuosi 1977; vuoden 1979 painos)

– tekijä: Roland Barthes (Tekijä), Richard Howard (Kääntäjä)

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"Barthes's most popular and unusual performance as a writer is "A Lover's Discourse," a writing out of the discourse of love. This language-- primarily the complaints and reflections of the lover when alone, not exchanges of a lover with his or her partner-- is unfashionable. Thought it is spoken by millions of people, diffused in our popular romances and television programs as well as in serious literature, there is no institution that explores, maintains, modifies, judges, repeats, and otherwise assumes responsibility for this discourse . . . Writing out the figures of a neglected discourse, Barthes surprises us in "A Lover's Discourse" by making love, in its most absurd and sentimental forms, an object of interest."-- Jonathan Culler… (lisätietoja)
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Teoksen nimi:A Lover's Discourse: Fragments
Kirjailijat:Roland Barthes (Tekijä)
Muut tekijät:Richard Howard (Kääntäjä)
Info:Hill and Wang (1979), Edition: Second Printing, 224 pages
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This extensive study of love has disemboweled me in every sense of the word. From Goethe's Werther, Freud's Interpretation of Dreams, Nietzsche's The Gay Science, Plato's Symposium, Proust's In Search of Lost Time to countless conversations with friends together with personal experiences Barthes painstakingly dissects love beyond the philosophical, psychological, and emotional. A Lover's Discourse bridges the resolute interstices between the head and the heart; bothering gestures and impressions precipitating contradictions ** "Perpetual monologues apropos of a loved being, which are neither corrected nor nourished by that being, lead to erroneous notions concerning mutual relations, and make us strangers to each other when we meet again, so that we find things different from what, without realizing it, we imagined." (p159); the inane and the insane; the overthinking and overwhelming; the Image-repertoire.

"Love is neither dialectical nor reformist."

For most of us skeptic and insecure of ourselves in love, Barthes offers a place of solace and reflection in A Lover's Discourse. A heavy book of undeniable intensity, its secret is not so much in completely understanding the text but associating it with your own feelings and experiences of love and almost love. Indeed, love, although unfathomable, is a universal feeling. For the heartbroken, the confused, the frustrated, the mad, ** "The lover's solitude is not a solitude of person (love confides, speaks, tells itself), it is a solitude of system: I am alone in making a system out of it (perhaps because I am ceaselessly flung back on the solipsism of my discourse). A difficult paradox: I can be understood by everyone (love comes from books, its dialect is a common one), but I can be heard (received "prophetically") only by subjects who have exactly and right now the same language I have." (p212). All the naïvety, immaturity, ambiguity, and yearning: acknowledged and, to an extent, assuringly ordinary. It's all here, makes you feel better, relieved. And the drama in love cannot be separated from itself — love kills, can kill. Further, there is absolutely so much to take in from this. I unexpectedly gone through this quickly there is a weight on my chest as I look back on past love affairs with a different set of eyes. How much we have talked and wrote and depicted love that at times it seemed already overused, overhyped, yet it still interests, possesses, and arouses. Barthes strikes and alters. Highsmith put it memorably so: "Love was supposed to be a kind of blissful insanity." ( )
  lethalmauve | Jan 25, 2021 |
I read this, as is only appropriate, in fragments, starting back in the summer. I might read two or three fragments with my morning coffee before I had to leave for class, or at the table in my family home between conversations with the people always coming and going from the main room here.

This is one of those rare books that lives up to my imagination of it, a perfect collision of high academic theory and the most mutable intangible realm of feeling. I took down passages all the time, such beautiful renderings of how desperately humans seek to connect to one another, to know one another, to know ourselves. How deeply we fail at it sometimes. How rich the something-like-it we achieve might be. This mix of head-and-heart, this sympathetic over-intellectualizing of emotions is as worthwhile as it is impractical and in vain. I sincerely love it. ( )
  likecymbeline | Apr 1, 2017 |
«Non si tratta di un manuale: non vi dirà come comportarvi né che cosa fare per togliervi dall'affanno e dall'ingombro di un abbandono. Non ha trama, se non quella dell'indagine dei movimenti amorosi. Ogni capitolo è indipendente: potete leggerne uno oggi e il seguente fra cinque anni, Roland Barthes vi darà comunque uno specchio bellissimo per riflettere, pensare, decidere, paragonare la vostra storia a quella di Werther o a un haiku giapponese; vi darà un respiro piú ampio in cui emettere il vostro rantolo e, improvvisamente, la coscienza del vostro amore si rafforzerà».
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  vecchiopoggi | Feb 12, 2016 |
[4.5]

Wow! This guy knows how to talk about love. His prose is some of the best I've ever read and everything just flowed so well. I'd had some previous notion that Barthes would be difficult or confusing to read and understand, but it was so easy. Every idea that he discussed made sense and it felt that it was the perfect and most honest way of describing that particular idea or topic.

I guess that's why I feel it is so hard to describe or explain because he's already done it so perfectly. There is no way to sum up what he's already said. It is the ultimate way to express these feelings.

This is the one of those books that deserves/needs multiple reads because it is beautiful and life/love-affirming. I guess in some parts he gets a bit depressing but it's a hopeful kind of sadness. That this type of sadness is just the reaction to a bigger, better happiness.

I think the only way I can summarise this book is that it is the most beautifully put prose, detailing the emotions and experiences one is bound to go through when in love. It is perfection and I absolutely recommend it to anyone that prefers their prose to encapsulate, comfort and inspire. ( )
  ebethiepaige | Oct 20, 2015 |
[4.5]

Wow! This guy knows how to talk about love. His prose is some of the best I've ever read and everything just flowed so well. I'd had some previous notion that Barthes would be difficult or confusing to read and understand, but it was so easy. Every idea that he discussed made sense and it felt that it was the perfect and most honest way of describing that particular idea or topic.

I guess that's why I feel it is so hard to describe or explain because he's already done it so perfectly. There is no way to sum up what he's already said. It is the ultimate way to express these feelings.

This is the one of those books that deserves/needs multiple reads because it is beautiful and life/love-affirming. I guess in some parts he gets a bit depressing but it's a hopeful kind of sadness. That this type of sadness is just the reaction to a bigger, better happiness.

I think the only way I can summarise this book is that it is the most beautifully put prose, detailing the emotions and experiences one is bound to go through when in love. It is perfection and I absolutely recommend it to anyone that prefers their prose to encapsulate, comfort and inspire. ( )
  ebethiepaige | Oct 17, 2015 |
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"Barthes's most popular and unusual performance as a writer is "A Lover's Discourse," a writing out of the discourse of love. This language-- primarily the complaints and reflections of the lover when alone, not exchanges of a lover with his or her partner-- is unfashionable. Thought it is spoken by millions of people, diffused in our popular romances and television programs as well as in serious literature, there is no institution that explores, maintains, modifies, judges, repeats, and otherwise assumes responsibility for this discourse . . . Writing out the figures of a neglected discourse, Barthes surprises us in "A Lover's Discourse" by making love, in its most absurd and sentimental forms, an object of interest."-- Jonathan Culler

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