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Fire & Blood: 300 Years Before A Game of Thrones (A Targaryen History) (vuoden 2018 painos)

– tekijä: George R. R. Martin (Tekijä), Doug Wheatley (Kuvittaja)

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The first volume of a definitive two-part history of the Targaryens in Westeros is set centuries before the events of "A Game of Thrones" and answers key questions about the dynasty's origins, conflicts and relationships with dragons.
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Teoksen nimi:Fire & Blood: 300 Years Before A Game of Thrones (A Targaryen History)
Kirjailijat:George R. R. Martin (Tekijä)
Muut tekijät:Doug Wheatley (Kuvittaja)
Info:Bantam (2018), Edition: Illustrated, 736 pages
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Avainsanoja:fantasy, fiction, male-author

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Fire and Blood: A History of the Targaryen Kings from Aegon the Conqueror to Aegon III (tekijä: George R. R. Martin)

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There were some sections in there that made for entertaining reading, but without the support framework of a novel (or 6) it was hard to feel invested in what was going on. This book was like GRRM remembered that The Silmarillion exists and thought, "Hey, I could do that."

The problem is that unlike JRRT, GRRM didn't have decades of outlines and myths spanning a world's entire history. GRRM's history of the Targaryens is focused on a more narrow band of his world's imaginary history, and the events described therein are more petty and forgettable. ( )
  wishanem | May 27, 2021 |
Excellent Look back to the beginnings of Game of Thrones and of the mysterious Targaryens and the beginnings of the houses we know in game of thrones... And Dragons! ( )
  DanJlaf | May 13, 2021 |
“Fire and Blood” purports to be Volume 1 of the history of the Targaryens in Westeros, from the Conquest of Aegon I to the end of the regency of Aegon III, a period of roughly 135 years or so. As such, it reads as most histories do, concentrating on the high-born, wars and castle intrigues, while including numerous lists of people involved in those activities without much differentiation between most of the names. But as ever, GRRM’s prose is compelling and even its great length (709 pages) isn’t daunting once one gets into the rhythm of the thing. Along the way, we learn some things, such as how it came to be that the Targaryens were the only House that had (and flew) dragons; how and why women were excluded from the succession in most places, and much more. I’ve been reading GRRM since, oh, “A Song for Lya” back in the mid-1970s, and am always happy to read more. This book is just the first half of the history, however, and every day spent on this and on its sequel is a day when the author is not working on “The Winds of Winter.” The first book in A Song of Ice and Fire came out when I moved from California to Canada, and I’ve been here 25 years now! That said, I’m pleased with “Fire and Blood,” and I’d recommend it to anyone interested in the world GRRM has created. ( )
1 ääni thefirstalicat | Jan 30, 2021 |
I am so happy to have been back in Westeros again for a while! I didn't care my wife was mocking me for reading fictional history instead of actual history, because reading is fun, but reading GRRM is even more fun! :-)

Of course, it's tantalizing to realize that there is a second volume still to be written. However, being really like an actual history book, Fire and Blood doesn't end on a cliffhanger and just keeps you interested - not dying - to read on after it's finished.

I loved how the narrator refers to various sources throughout the tale, one even less reliable than the other.

Two remarks though. One, my edition didn't have a map. I was referring to the included Targaryen lineage all the time while reading, but I really could have done with a map of Westeros (and the Free Cities) too. As the storyline covers more than a century in just a few hundred pages, it criss-crosses through the fantasy realm at neck breaking speed. I mostly read with a digital fan based map nearby.

Two, the comparison of Fire and Blood with [b:The Silmarillion|7332|The Silmarillion|J.R.R. Tolkien|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1565193934l/7332._SX50_.jpg|4733799] is beyond me. Sure, it's set in a time before the main events of the main books, but that's where the similarity ends.

The Silmarillion is a thousand times vaster than Fire and Blood and gives a glimpse of the incredible amount of work that JRR Tolkien put into his fantasy world. I'm talking a complete set of mythology, several languages, an amazing genesis-story, ... so many things that GRRMs work does not include.

In comparison, Fire and Blood is just a quick overview of a relatively short period of time in the history of Westeros.

(It's much more funny than The Silmarillion however. :-D)

I feel blessed that such a talented writer as GRRM happens to be writing in one of my favourite genres. Thank you! ( )
  bbbart | Dec 27, 2020 |
I'm a world-building junkie and I freely admit to being stoked when I heard about this book.

Its interesting, but uneven.

What worked:
-DRAGONS
-SO MANY DRAGONS
-Hitting a 'new' time period made things feel fresh
-There were a few bits that connected to the 'main' series (e.g., the eggs that likely became Dany's dragons) but it didn't go overboard with constant winks and nudges.
-The author's tone is great, as is the dedication to referencing different historical texts and conflicting stories
-It felt populated by real people - the decisions and actions, good or bad, felt realistic and human.
-There's multiple female characters with strength and importance, although this doesn't pass the Bechdel test

What didn't:
-It is hard to plop into a new time period and introduce the full cast quickly. Early chapters were just a plethora of names to juggle around. It did get much easier as the book progressed, though.
-While the book is largely in chronological order, there is some back-and-forth that can make it a pain to follow. For example, talking about someone dying and then back tracking months or years before the death happened and continuing to discuss their life. Again, it was worse in the first half of the book.
-The Dance of Dragons felt a bit shortchanged by the format - the academic/historical tone made it hard to give the raw emotional weight of the betrayal and destruction and tragic dragon death. Not that it wasn't interesting but I half expected myself to cry at this part and I didn't.
-It ends abruptly - really abruptly - about halfway through the line of succession. This book covers approximately the first 160 years, leaving about 120 between the end of this and the start of Song of Ice and Fire. The format doesn't lend itself well to a traditional plot arc, but it essentially ends at the final resolution of the Dance of Dragons and without a real climax. This also leaves out Baelor, the Mad King, Dunk and Egg, etc. (Does this hint at a sequel prequel?)
-This is really a pro and a con at once but: a LOT of stuff is unexplained. We don't learn as much about the dragons as you'd hope, mysterious illnesses, etc. Its frustrating at times. Don't promise me the secrets of the Targs and then not deliver!
-If that single parenthetical line about the conspiracy theory of dragon eggs hidden in Winterfell becomes an actual thing in the series, I will throw up. As it stands I choose to take it as GRRM trolling the people that over-analyze everything and try to one-up each other on far-out theories.

This is a drier book than others in the franchise. This is a very different book from the others - except perhaps the World of Ice and Fire. It is possibly not the book you wanted. If you are angry this isn't Winds of Winter, don't read this. Doing so makes you a hypocrite and you won't let yourself like it regardless.

As for myself, it wasn't the best book, but pretty solid for what it was. Missed you, GRRM. ( )
  kaitlynn_g | Dec 13, 2020 |
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