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Carve the Mark (Carve the Mark, 1) (vuoden 2017 painos)

– tekijä: Veronica Roth (Tekijä)

Sarjat: Carve the Mark (1)

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On a planet where violence and vengeance rule, in a galaxy where some are favored by fate, everyone develops a currentgift, a unique power meant to shape the future. While most benefit from their currentgifts, Akos and Cyra do not -- their gifts make them vulnerable to others control. Can they reclaim their gifts, their fates, and their lives, and reset the balance of power in this world? Cyra is the sister of the brutal tyrant who rules the Shotet people. Cyra's currentgift gives her pain and power -- something her brother exploits, using her to torture his enemies. But Cyra is much more than just a blade in her brothers hand: she is resilient, quick on her feet, and smarter than he knows. Akos is from the peace-loving nation of Thuvhe, and his loyalty to his family is limitless. Though protected by his unusual currentgift, once Akos and his brother are captured by enemy Shotet soldiers, Akos is desperate to get his brother out alive -- no matter what the cost. When Akos is thrust into Cyra's world, the enmity between their countries and families seems insurmountable. They must decide to help each other to survive -- or to destroy one another.… (lisätietoja)
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Teoksen nimi:Carve the Mark (Carve the Mark, 1)
Kirjailijat:Veronica Roth (Tekijä)
Info:Katherine Tegen Books (2017), Edition: Reprint, 512 pages
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Näyttää 1-5 (yhteensä 45) (seuraava | näytä kaikki)
I will not be reading this because in real life I already encounter enough harmful stereotypes as it is. I do not need to see it in my stories.

Not every trope bothers me. Some tropes I love. Some I don't. This is one of them.

Somebody way better with words explained why this book can bother you: The Continent, Carve the Mark, and the Trope of the Dark Skinned Aggressor


  Jonesy_now | Sep 24, 2021 |
This was definitely one of those all-too-common cases where an author has a spectacular first series and then the follow up just doesn't dazzle. I had a really hard time getting into this, engaging with the characters or the narration. And when you take the character-driven story approach, the characters have to be engaging, relatable, sympathetic--something--and early on. That just doesn't happen hear and it makes the book a tough read. ( )
  crtsjffrsn | Aug 27, 2021 |
Carve the Mark is set in a universe where the "current" flows through all worlds, and people develop special powers depending on their personalities. Akos and his brother are kidnapped from their family home and taken to another country that is at war with theirs. There, he meets Cyra, assassin, and sister to the leader of Shotet. Her current gift is pain, both for her and anyone she touches. Akos' current gift neutralizes the gifts of others. Sounds like a match made in heaven right? Well, except for the kidnapping thing, the slave thing, the evil brother, the hostage brother, and the fates. The fates...some people in this universe are "fate favored" meaning in every version of the future the oracles see a particular thing happens. Of course, Cyra and Akos have fates.

I'm pretty sure I've figured out where this series will end up. I'm not sure I'll like it. Especially given the history of this author and her characters. It was hard to follow at times since many of the character names seem to be similar. But, I did enjoy this one and liked the differing cultures. I listened to this one and I am glad after seeing it in print. I definitely would not have those names in my head like they are spelled. ( )
  readingbeader | Oct 29, 2020 |
this was a great book written by the author of divergent. i liked this series so much more. the sci-fi and the dystopian aspects are much more developed. ( )
  kritikags | Aug 19, 2020 |
She was a hushflower, all power and possibility.

Full disclosure (two points):
1. I try not to let overwhelmingly negative responses to a book determine whether or not I'll read it, but I will admit it has happened on several occasions. That begin said, I've had this duology on my shelf for a while now, and I really just wanted to see where all of the complaints and controversy are coming from. I enjoyed the Divergent books (not so much Allegiant), but never saw any of the movies. It’s also been years since I read those, so I don’t remember anything specific about Roth’s writing, other than that I enjoyed the Divergent books at the time I was reading them.

2. I am a straight, cis-gendered white woman who is mostly able-bodied (I do have tendonitis in my right hip which is starting to spread to the left, so I do experience pain from that quite often depending on activity level/type or sitting a certain way, but I wouldn’t say it’s severe chronic pain). I do believe myself to be a pretty sympathetic person who is all about equal rights and representation. I can’t really speak for those who feel offended by this book in regards to the portrayal of race or chronic pain, or other forms of representation. However, I am still going to explore my take on those issues somewhat.

I honestly feel that people were just looking for reasons to be offended, especially in regards to pain. Yes, Roth herself experiences chronic pain, and writing Cyra was likely an outlet for that, but the pain that Cyra experiences is hardly comparable to real-life conditions. By the end of the story, Cyra is able to exert some semblance of control over her currentshadows, and she realizes that her currentgift is the way it is in some part due to her thoughts that other people deserve pain. Even disregarding that part, it's a "gift" from the current, meaning something given to her via the current. That doesn't mean anyone is glorifying chronic pain. I'm not sure why that's even a claim people are making, because it's really never treated like her pain is some wonderful thing to her. She makes use of it because it's there, but she's never like, "Oh yeah, this is such a cool gift that the current gave me. It's great stuff!" The story is about Cyra overcoming being used for her ability, and the mental and emotional barriers she's erected because of it.

That was the problem with being so convinced of your own awfulness—you thought other people were lying when they didn’t agree with you.

As far as race, while reading, there were times that I felt some characters were described differently at one point than they were at another. I lost track of who was "pale" or who had "golden brown skin" or whatever else, but I did note that there were people with both light and dark skin across both the Shotet and the Thuvhe. Cyra specifically notes that the Shotet are a race of people with mixed blood--just as their buildings are put together with mixed materials refurbished from all across the galaxy--and so there's not really any way to claim that the "harsh" Shotet language is being attributed to people of darker skin. I just felt that the harsh language was a linguistic reflection of their violent rule.
My biggest problem was honestly just how many people had "curly hair" and how that was the only feature I really remembered about them. I don't care if every character had curly hair or pin-straight hair or whatever else--I just wanted more descriptions that stood out, period. Some character descriptions weren't even revealed until late in the book. I just never felt like there was ENOUGH detail to really ever call any of it racist, except maybe the description of Cyra's mother's hair, but it was ultimately a way to depict Cyra as not really resembling her family members. (Also, I'm pretty sure I know some of the surprises that will be revealed in the next book, so that's even more indicative of there not really being one blanket description for either set of people.)

None of this is to say that there's nothing that could be addressed or fixed. But the level of outrage over the depiction of both chronic pain and race seems pretty unjustified.

There is some LGBTQ representation, though, in the form of one marriage, and one relationship that hasn't been quite fulfilled yet. Neither are major parts of the story, but they are there.

All of the controversial stuff aside...

There are obviously some similarities between this and the Shatter Me series, like Cyra and Akos' gifts reflecting Juliette and Warren's. But it’s not something I dwelled on, as I kind of just thought about it in passing and went, "Eh, whatevs."

There are a few things concerning Akos that stood out to me:

-Akos’ mom tells him about fates pretty early in the book, which serves its purpose for the reader, but seems out of place considering he’s 14 and should have heard a good bit of the information before.

-The fact that Akos is 14 in the beginning is weird in itself. He’s written as if he’s a child, and when I got to the part saying he was 14, I was like, “What?? I thought he was like 7.”

-Akos is pretty meek when he’s first introduced in the beginning, blushing at everything, quiet and reserved. But then things start happening to get the plot rolling and he’s suddenly hardcore and that was all just a bit wonky.

-To add further to Akos’ characterization, after the initial two chapters (part 1) of the book, we’re thrown into Cyra’s point of view for 11 chapters. Akos’ are in third person, while Cyra’s are in first. This was pretty concerning, considering I knew the ending of Allegiant as soon as the book started and it was suddenly split narrative, a departure from the first two books with their single, first-person narrative. At the same time, there are many more Cyra chapters than Akos, and, while I don’t dislike Akos, there’s just…not really anything there? His chapters are so impersonal, and he’s never given much personality in Cyra’s either. I really want to like him, and I guess I do, but third person did not do him justice. (And to be honest, Cyra wasn't all that interesting, either. But we got to see more of what was going on inside her head.)


Various things that I really liked:
-The Shotet scavenge-and-refurbish tradition. Despite what it has mutated to by the time this story takes place, the idea itself is quite fascinating, and I just really enjoyed that bit of world-building. The soujourn itself was kind of bland once we got to the scavenging part, because the story was more focused on major plot developments. So that was a little disappointing.

-Cyra taking note of Shotet subtitles on news stories throughout the book, and how twisted the information became under Shotet “tweaking.” This is a simple, yet effective, way to show how the Shotet people are controlled and kept in the dark.

“There is an art to Noavek bullshit. We’re taught it from birth.”

-Isae. “If it hasn’t already, it should be dawning on you right about now that your girl and your mother are very similar people. I will pause as that irrefutable fact chills you to the core.” She's a little rough, due to her position, but I really liked her character.

In all, I really did enjoy this book, but I don't really know why. I had a few problems with characterizations and flatlining interest in some parts, and while Ryzek was an asshole, he was a pretty weak and uninteresting villain. I'm going to read the next book because I want to see where everyone ends up, and because it's only one more book, but I'm not as invested in the characters' fates as I could be. ( )
  Octjillery | May 5, 2020 |
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On a planet where violence and vengeance rule, in a galaxy where some are favored by fate, everyone develops a currentgift, a unique power meant to shape the future. While most benefit from their currentgifts, Akos and Cyra do not -- their gifts make them vulnerable to others control. Can they reclaim their gifts, their fates, and their lives, and reset the balance of power in this world? Cyra is the sister of the brutal tyrant who rules the Shotet people. Cyra's currentgift gives her pain and power -- something her brother exploits, using her to torture his enemies. But Cyra is much more than just a blade in her brothers hand: she is resilient, quick on her feet, and smarter than he knows. Akos is from the peace-loving nation of Thuvhe, and his loyalty to his family is limitless. Though protected by his unusual currentgift, once Akos and his brother are captured by enemy Shotet soldiers, Akos is desperate to get his brother out alive -- no matter what the cost. When Akos is thrust into Cyra's world, the enmity between their countries and families seems insurmountable. They must decide to help each other to survive -- or to destroy one another.

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