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The Mote in God's Eye

– tekijä: Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle

Muut tekijät: Katso muut tekijät -osio.

Sarjat: The Mote in God's Eye (1), CoDominium Internal Chronology (8)

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In the year 3016, the Second Empire of Man spans hundreds of star systems, thanks to the faster-than-light Alderson Drive. No other intelligent beings have ever been encountered, not until a light sail probe enters a human system carrying a dead alien. The probe is traced to the Mote, an isolated star in a thick dust cloud, and an expedition is dispatched. In the Mote the humans find an ancient civilization--at least one million years old--that has always been bottled up in their cloistered solar system for lack of a star drive. The Moties are welcoming and kind, yet rather evasive about certain aspects of their society. It seems the Moties have a dark problem, one they've been unable to solve in over a million years.… (lisätietoja)
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  1. 71
    Rengasmaailma (tekijä: Larry Niven) (fugitive)
    fugitive: Another hard science fiction book about a fully realized world with lots of technical details.
  2. 50
    Footfall (tekijä: Larry Niven) (sturlington)
  3. 61
    Uhka avaruudesta (tekijä: Arthur C. Clarke) (BGP)
  4. 30
    Outies (tekijä: J. R. Pournelle) (J.R.Pournelle)
    J.R.Pournelle: Second (authorized) sequel.
  5. 20
    Linnunradan ääret. 1. kirja (tekijä: Vernor Vinge) (tcgardner)
  6. 20
    The Foundation Trilogy (tekijä: Isaac Asimov) (BGP)
  7. 10
    Ilmestysten avaruus (tekijä: Alastair Reynolds) (voodoochilli)
  8. 00
    Lapsuuden loppu (tekijä: Arthur C. Clarke) (sturlington)
  9. 11
    Taivaan syvyydet (tekijä: Vernor Vinge) (tcgardner)
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Näyttää 1-5 (yhteensä 96) (seuraava | näytä kaikki)
A great story. I really appreciated the consideration of first contact from the perspective of both human and alien. ( )
  Neil_Luvs_Books | Mar 23, 2021 |
Middling review - I probably should read this again - because I read it before I got into high school as one of those late night can't sleep books. ( )
  wetdryvac | Mar 2, 2021 |
NA
  pszolovits | Feb 3, 2021 |
I wasn't sure if I was going to really be interested in this book off the NPR Reader's Choice Science Fiction and Fantasy list as I'm down to the last thirty, but I ended up being drawn into the story and the alien culture of the Moties. Part space-opera, part first-contact, part horror, I raced through this novel (probably at the expense of some of the finer points of the alien society) as each twist of the plot made me more and more nervous for the ending. The authors are not afraid to dispose of characters, and there is violence a-plenty. The image of the miniatures inside the spacesuit with the dead man's head during the evacuation of the MacArthur is horrifying and haunting, especially from the perspective of Bury, who thought that he could capitalize on the creatures as novelty pets. The interactions between the captain and the admiral are intense, and Rod's decision to finally abandon ship is written beautifully and emotionally.

Not something that I would normally have picked up, but I'm glad it was on the list so I did! ( )
  resoundingjoy | Jan 1, 2021 |
In terms of where this book falls it’s a mixture of Military Science Fiction and First Contact with a mission with a strong military component undertaking first contact mission, both for the Terran forces and those they are contacting. The book itself is part of the authors’ CoDominiun Universe, which now seems to be a rather wacky alternate universe where the Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact powers and the US/NATO forces didn’t (quite) commit nuclear suicide, or have one or the other side collapse economically but joined together in an unstable union that lasted long enough to see the development of an FTL drive and the forced emigration of humanity’s first colonists – as seems to have become a tradition, these were generally criminals or other shady characters that most people would rather not see littering up their environs. Eventually the CoDominiun did collapse in fire and war, but with a significant off-world population Humanity’s future was relatively safe. Eventually a Terran Empire rose, then fell again and as at this story, a second empire is in the process of enforcing its will on those worlds refusing to accept its authority. It’s fairly repressive by our standards, with the main role of females being to provide the next generation for example, with Sally Fowler, the only main Terran female in this story, fearing marriage as it would essentially end any aspirations she had that didn’t involve children - a fate made more likely as she’s a high-status aristocrat as well. As at the time of this story, she’s trained as an anthropologist and wants to use this training for the good of the Empire. She’d also been the prisoner of a particularly nasty revolutionary force. The liberating Imperial forces were led by Rod Blain, who’d pushed the limits of his authority in this rescue so, not unreasonably, he’s expecting censure but is, instead, given command of the MacArthur, and in personal charge of a suspected traitor. Once back in civilised space, the MacArthur’s tasked with intercepting a probe sent through real space, and definitely alien, currently heading into the local system’s sun, so there’s a time limit involved here! After capturing it, they find the corpse of a lifeform, no doubts now they were dealing with an alien. This set off a flurry of committees, meetings and a full Viceregal Council to decide how to respond, resulting in the MacArthur and the battleship Lenin being sent to investigate the alien civilisation lying behind the dark mass of the Coal Sack nebula. The system of FTL travel in this universe is from a specific point in space and is practically instantaneous, though with some disturbance to human and electronic systems, so most of the journey time is taken in real space getting to the jump points. Imperial ships also have an energy shield blocking all forms of energy from reaching the actual metal of the ship itself. This proved quite useful when the jump point is located within a super giant’s mass…
The ships’ arrival in the Motie system was quickly noticed and a ship is launched from Motie Prime but it’s a asteroid miner that’s the first ship to encounter the MacArthur, the only ship allowed contact with the locals. The Moties themselves are bipedal, which is basically the closest they get to being humanoid and have a hip joint that allows them to rotate almost three sixty degrees, though they don’t have spines like Terrans. The major difference is the number of arms – typically two fine arms capable of delicate manipulation, and a third, heavy duty, arm usually for heavy duty work. If you’ve spent time on science fiction bulletin boards or UseNet groups (yeah – showing my age here!) you may have come across the term ‘on the gripping hand’, and it’s this third hand that’s brought this meme to life! The Motie aboard the miner is a brown haired and supposed to be intelligent, though it doesn’t seem interested in communicating. It is quite keen on transferring across to the MacArthur and abandoning its own ship. When it did so, it brought across a couple of small, similar looking creatures that the MacArthur crew reckoned were potential food sources, while gratuitously leaving the rest of these creatures to die in the vacuum it made of its ship. One of the creatures was pregnant and when it gave birth there was a storm of interest, but when the other little creature escaped along with the baby into the bowels of the MacArthur, they cause a bit of concern but are considered to be no worse than the rats that already infest the ship. Any lingering concern about the escapees was soon lost when the intelligent Motie was found to be fading away due to some unspecified illness. However, over the next few days and weeks it became clear that something was altering clothing and systems on the ship and that it was infested with something more serious than rats!
When the ship from Motie Prime reached the MacArthur, it held a crew of brown Moties and a new form, with a somewhat better developed brain and brown and white mottled fur. These latter proved to be mediator types whose job was to understand these strangers from beyond the skies, and the humans found that they took on the personality of various members of the Terran contact group. Of course, both sides have things to hide; the Terrans, the secrets of the Alderson Drive and their shield; the Moties, the fact that they bred like… well, the usual phrase is like rabbits, but the Moties have rabbits beaten in the breeding stakes!
After a failed attempt to decontaminate the MacArthur from the plague of miniature Moties infesting it, Rod had to order its evacuation and destroyed as the Moties ran wild. Meanwhile the human mission escape Motie Prime fairly easily, but MacArthur’s midshipmen are caught up in a mission to action the final destruction of the MacArthur, barely escaping only to find them on Motie Prime and in the middle of a power struggle. Finally, the humans come to an agreement with the Moties that lets the Moties send ambassadors to the Empire.
Once back in the Empire, an Imperial Commission is created with the sole purpose of coming to a decision on what to do with the Moties; to outright exterminate them; to allow the Moties access to the Galaxy and all the resources they could dream of in a Crazy Eddy dream; or occupy the Motie system. This is largely shown from the Motie point of view as we see the humans sway between one or other of these options as competing forces on the committee had their way or were manipulated by the Motie negotiators. Who would win? Or would the Moties be destroyed by their own internal tensions?
Much of the book is quite absorbing and flows well but that final set of negotiations about the Moties got a bit silly in my opinion, and putting the Motie points of view commentary in italics really didn’t help with the readability though I’m not sure whether that was part of the original novel, or something added by this edition’s publishers – comment if you know!
I don’t know how much of the book was written by each author, but I found certain parts of the book reading as if they had been written in a presentational style more akin to what I would expect from a technical writer like Pournelle than a fiction author like Niven. This wasn’t really helped by the occasional gazetteer-like entries we are given about various planets the MacArthur visits during the story that sometimes ran into the actual story itself. ( )
  JohnFair | Dec 23, 2020 |
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And why beheldest thou the mote that is in thy brother's

eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

MATTHEW 7 : 3
Omistuskirjoitus
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To Marilyn and Roberta,

who put up with us while we wrote this;

and to Lurton and Ginny,

who made us do the job over again.
T
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PROLOGUE

"Throughout the past thousand years of history it has been traditional to regard the Alderson Drive as an unmixed blessing."
A.D. 3017

"Admiral's compliments, and you're to come to his office right away," Midshipman Staley announced.
Sitaatit
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Rape it.
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In the year 3016, the Second Empire of Man spans hundreds of star systems, thanks to the faster-than-light Alderson Drive. No other intelligent beings have ever been encountered, not until a light sail probe enters a human system carrying a dead alien. The probe is traced to the Mote, an isolated star in a thick dust cloud, and an expedition is dispatched. In the Mote the humans find an ancient civilization--at least one million years old--that has always been bottled up in their cloistered solar system for lack of a star drive. The Moties are welcoming and kind, yet rather evasive about certain aspects of their society. It seems the Moties have a dark problem, one they've been unable to solve in over a million years.

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