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You and Me Forever: Marriage in Light of Eternity (vuoden 2014 painos)

– tekijä: Francis Chan (Tekijä)

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Marriage is great, but it's not forever. It's until death do us part. Then comes eternal rewards or regrets depending on how we spent our lives. In his latest book, Francis Chan joins together with his wife Lisa to address the question many couples wonder at the altar: "How do I have a healthy marriage?" Setting aside typical topics on marriage, Francis and Lisa dive into Scripture to understand what it means to have a relationship that satisfies the deepest parts of our souls. In the same way, Crazy Love changed the way we saw our personal relationship with God, You and Me Forever: Marriage in Light of Eternity will radically shift the way we see one of the most important relationships in our life. Jesus was right. We have it all backwards. The way to have a great marriage is by not focusing on marriage. Whether you are single, dating or married, You and Me Forever will help you discover the adventure that you were made for and learn how to thrive in it. 100% of the net profits from You and Me Forever: Marriage in Light of Eternity will go towards providing food, shelter and rehabilitation for thousands of orphaned children and exploited women in partnership with global charities.… (lisätietoja)
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Teoksen nimi:You and Me Forever: Marriage in Light of Eternity
Kirjailijat:Francis Chan (Tekijä)
Info:Claire Love Publishing (2014), 192 pages
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näyttää 5/5
I DNF only a few pages in. The author supports public shaming and slut shaming. I can easy see what time periods this man and his wife wish they were end. I can guess how they feel about minorities based on those comments. ( )
  Tay318 | Mar 27, 2020 |
Like many reviews say, this book was a benign bait-and-switch. The title makes you think it's about tips for a good marriage but it's actually not lame like that. It's essentially "here's how to be a consistent Christian" with occasional marriage examples sprinkled in.

3.8/5 ( )
  ZacharyTLawson | Jul 10, 2019 |
This book focuses more on making sure your relationship with God is right, because then your priorities with your spouse/kids/family will fall into place.

My favorite line in this is about winning marital fights. They say that whoever wins is usually the one who is being the LEAST Christ-like. That's so very true, but in the heat of the moment it's hard to focus on having that attitude. ( )
  bookworm12 | Apr 9, 2019 |
This was the first Francis Chan book that I have read. The thesis of the book is basically that marriage should be focused on eternity. For the Christian, that is true of everything in life, but I'm not sure I agree with all of his applications of that truth.

The title compared with the heading on the back cover is a little confusing. The title is "you and me FOREVER" but the back cover heading is "Marriage Is Great, But it's not Forever." The idea is that marriage is an earthly union for the Glory of God and preparing both of us to live (perhaps individually) in eternity.

Chan does have a way of creating thought provoking ideas, which I appreciated:

1) Regarding seeing God at the beginning of eternity, he says "Hands down, it will be the most shocking moment of your existence...I try to think about it often because it keeps me centered. This is also why I imagine Lisa [his wife] seeing God for the first time. I love her, so I want her to be ready for it." This thought has continued resonate in my mind since I read it.

2) Regarding problems in marriage, "our marriage problems are not really marriage problems. They are heart problems. They are God problems." I knew this, but I agree and the reminder was good.

3) Lisa [his wife and co-author of this book] wrote, "And Christ-likeness may be especially important in our marriages because marriage is such a powerful way to display the gospel and the glory of God. It is the first place people will look to see if we really believe what we say we believe...The way we love our spouses should make the love of Christ believable and true." Francis wrote along the same theme, "Displaying God to the world is ... the purpose of marriage." I appreciated the emphasis that marriage is a testimony to the reality of Christ and the sincerity of our discipleship.

4) Regarding arguments, "soon, all we want is to win, even if victory requires sin. The one who wins the argument is usually the one who acts less like Christ."

5) Regarding parenting, "too many parents try to shield their kids from reality. It is only a matter of time before they figure it out for themselves. Help them process reality from an early age, and teach them why it matters." Later he also wrote after referencing James chapter 1, "I want them [his children] to go through some trials while they are still under my care so I can shepherd them through it." This is one of the very reasons we chose to put our children in the local public school. I didn't want the isolation from the world to create in them a curiosity about it, nor did I want them to be shocked when they stepped out of our home.

There were a couple of negatives:

1) I felt like the general tone of the book was more emotional than expositional. For example, writing in light of heaven, he quoted Revelation 21 after the exhortation to "read this passage slowly, trying to picture it in your mind's eye. And keep reading it over and over until you find yourself longing for heaven with a tangible excitement."

2) I also sensed repetition. Part way through the book, I would think, "you've already said that earlier" (in different words of course). Where it was more difficult for me to endure was in a paragraph or a sentence where it seemed he was simply using synonyms to reassert the same thought. For example, one sentence started with the phrase "Our lives should revolve around..." and the next sentence stated "...our mission is..." I understand the use of repetition and even of nuances, but it was a bit frustrating because it seemed the book could then have been more concise.

These two things made the completion of the book have to be intentional rather than natural. I think the writing style just didn't quite harmonize with my reading and thinking style. However, this evaluation should not take away from the challenging ideas I've already mentioned.

Theologically speaking, I do have a question about Chan. It seems as though he believes in baptismal regeneration. I did a little searching on the internet and he has been questioned on this before. I'll let him speak for himself. In speaking of Acts 2:38, he writes "If you believe in what Jesus has done for you and haven't done this [repent and be baptized] yet, find a Bible teaching church where someone can baptize you and help you understand the teachings of Christ." A few pages later he wrote, "Baptism is meant to convey our death and burial with Christ." To me the words are too vague.

There are some good reminders in the book and some provocative ideas. His writing style wasn't my favorite, but not unbearable. His view of baptism is questionable at best. ( )
1 ääni LeviDeatrick | Oct 9, 2017 |
This was an encouraging read. It is more about how to live out your personal faith in Jesus and how your relationship with him will positively impact how you view your marriage. It is not a marriage book in the traditional sense. It actually offers some counter intuitive advice.

I gave this book 4 stars because I struggled to connect with Lisa's writing voice. Some of her advice was based on her personal circumstances and personality traits. I had difficulty relating to her but feel comfortable recommending the book to other marriages because there may women out there who do. I resonated more with Francis' writing.

Overall, I was reminded of the scope of this life in relation to the next. Maintaining that perspective helps keep my relationships in order. When my relationships are in order, they are blessed with joy and peace, despite any external circumstances.

I highly recommend it for couples who are already fairly stable in the relationship and are looking to take their marriage to the next level, but couples in any stage of their relationship will benefit from the truths therein. ( )
  BrittneyRossie | Jun 14, 2015 |
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Marriage is great, but it's not forever. It's until death do us part. Then comes eternal rewards or regrets depending on how we spent our lives. In his latest book, Francis Chan joins together with his wife Lisa to address the question many couples wonder at the altar: "How do I have a healthy marriage?" Setting aside typical topics on marriage, Francis and Lisa dive into Scripture to understand what it means to have a relationship that satisfies the deepest parts of our souls. In the same way, Crazy Love changed the way we saw our personal relationship with God, You and Me Forever: Marriage in Light of Eternity will radically shift the way we see one of the most important relationships in our life. Jesus was right. We have it all backwards. The way to have a great marriage is by not focusing on marriage. Whether you are single, dating or married, You and Me Forever will help you discover the adventure that you were made for and learn how to thrive in it. 100% of the net profits from You and Me Forever: Marriage in Light of Eternity will go towards providing food, shelter and rehabilitation for thousands of orphaned children and exploited women in partnership with global charities.

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