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The Once and Future King (alkuperäinen julkaisuvuosi 1940; vuoden 1987 painos)

– tekijä: Terence Hanbury White

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12,947172335 (4.09)2 / 670
"A deluxe hardcover edition of the world's greatest fantasy classic--part of Penguin Galaxy, a collectible series of six sci-fi/fantasy classics, featuring a series introduction by Neil Gaiman T. H. White's masterful retelling of the saga of King Arthur is a fantasy classic as legendary as the sword Excalibur and city of Camelot that are found within its pages. This magical epic takes Arthur from the glorious lyrical phase of his youth, through the disillusioning early years of his reign, to maturity when his vision of the Round Table develops into the search for the Holy Grail, and finally to his weary old age. With memorable characters like Merlin and Owl and Guinevere, beasts who talk and men who fly, wizardry and war, The Once and Future King has become the fantasy masterpiece against which all others are judged, a poignant story of adventure, romance, and magic that has enchanted readers for generations. Penguin Galaxy Six of our greatest masterworks of science fiction and fantasy, in dazzling collector-worthy hardcover editions, and featuring a series introduction by #1 New York Times bestselling author Neil Gaiman, Penguin Galaxy represents a constellation of achievement in visionary fiction, lighting the way toward our knowledge of the universe, and of ourselves. From historical legends to mythic futures, monuments of world-building to mind-bending dystopias, these touchstones of human invention and storytelling ingenuity have transported millions of readers to distant realms, and will continue for generations to chart the frontiers of the imagination. The Once and Future King by T. H. White Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein Dune by Frank Herbert 2001: A Space Odyssey by Arthur C. Clarke The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin Neuromancer by William Gibson For more than seventy years, Penguin has been the leading publisher of classic literature in the English-speaking world. With more than 1,700 titles, Penguin Classics represents a global bookshelf of the best works throughout history and across genres and disciplines. Readers trust the series to provide authoritative texts enhanced by introductions and notes by distinguished scholars and contemporary authors, as well as up-to-date translations by award-winning translators"--… (lisätietoja)
Jäsen:jason.goodwin
Teoksen nimi:The Once and Future King
Kirjailijat:Terence Hanbury White
Info:Ace (1987), Edition: 2nd, Mass Market Paperback, 639 pages
Kokoelmat:Oma kirjasto
Arvio (tähdet):*****
Avainsanoja:king arthur, excalibur, merlin

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    BINDINGSTHATLAST: Anotherside of White
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    Arthur Rex: A Legendary Novel (tekijä: Thomas Berger) (eromsted)
    eromsted: For a comic take on the legend
  8. 10
    Queen of Camelot (tekijä: Nancy Mckenzie) (wordcauldron)
    wordcauldron: My favorite retelling of Arthurian legend. Period.
  9. 22
    The Magicians (tekijä: Lev Grossman) (wandering_star)
    wandering_star: I thought of making this recommendation when reading the magical education section of The Magicians, which reminded me of the first book of The Once and Future King. But the wider idea - that magical powers can't stop us from making stupid human mistakes - is also relevant to both books.… (lisätietoja)
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Näyttää 1-5 (yhteensä 172) (seuraava | näytä kaikki)
I was really ejoying this book until I realized how much of a mess T. H. White made of the proposed time period. He goes on and on about how the story is set in the 12th century (and rightly includes Robin Hood and company), but King Arthur's legend sets the stories during the 5th and 6th centuries. During the 12th century we have Prince John, King Richard, and the First Crusade so there really isn't room for Uther Pendragon and King Arthur because there is only allowed to be ONE King of England! Yes, I get that Robin Hood and King Arthur ar both figures of semi-historical legend rather than historical reality, but there is no room for them both in Britian at the same time. One historically mythic figure per story monsieur! ( )
  JaimieRiella | Feb 26, 2021 |
I was really excited to read the Once and Future King because, well, it feels like it’s one of THE King Arthur novels to read, and I like the Disney movie The Sword in the Stone. Which is why I was surprised when I wanted to quit 50 pages in. It just seemed…flippant, and light-hearted in a way that I guess I don’t like in my Arthur stories? At the same time, I think that’s why it made a good Disney movie, so it was probably silly for me to feel that way. What really irked me, however, was a line about them drinking sherry, that went sort of like “well, it wasn’t sherry they were drinking, but the medieval version of sherry”. That, along with deferring to Malory, seemed like lazy writing. The fact that he puts Arthur into the later centuries, rather than after the fall of Rome bothered the historian in me. As I continued through the book, however, these sorts of things bothered me less and less. He defers to Malory because those are tedious parts of the story he’s not interested in writing. He has specific aspects he wants to focus on (its much more about character development than Malory, thankfully). And in the end, Arthur is a myth, so does it really matter what century he lived in? From about page 300 onward, I sped through, and was very engaged in the story. He mentions that it is “difficult to write about real people”, real meaning characters with myriad emotions and feelings, but he did so with great skill. ( )
  renardkitsune | Feb 15, 2021 |
Not a perfect book - White's "...but you can read about this in Malory" skipping of some parts is cute the first time but starts to feel weirdly elided after a while, and the female characters tend to have weird comings and goings where it feels like White doesn't have any ideas about how to get them anywhere and just dropped them into the story whenever. (This is maybe the first time where I've said, "huh, I can see why someone went back and did a feminist reinterpretation of all of this stuff later" several times before the book was even half over.)

However, all of that being said, there's a lot here that I like. The gradual change in tone from the lighthearted, you-can-see-why-Disney-made-a-movie adventures of The Sword in the Stone to the doomsday-like feeling of The Candle in the Wind is really good. There's a weird sense of time and history where Uther Pendragon seems to be conflated with William the Conqueror, Arthur meets an older Robin Hood when he is a young man, and Merlin constantly speaks in anachronisms -- there are parts where the book feels close to something like One Hundred Years of Solitude (which I still didn't finish, sorry). There are also the moments where White will get wrapped up in the particularities of jousting, or the people passing on the road, or the unique rules of sanctuary, that feel like some of the deep dives that would happen in The Name of the Rose. Best of all is the really strong narrator voice that White has, which would probably be overbearing anywhere else, but here feels like a really good friend walking you through everything.

Altogether, it can be a slog sometimes, but there's a lot here that's worth checking out. ( )
  skolastic | Feb 2, 2021 |
T.H White has truly done so much justice to the King Arthur narrative. He is incredibly sensitive to the earlier, important works that revolve or involve King Arthur; stories by Thomas Malory or Chretien de Troyes & period specific literature by people like Chaucer, which gives his story its legitimacy. French Romances & earlier narratives of King Arthur are usually purposefully unrealistic (at least to modern readers). It’s not simply because they weave mystical &/or magical elements into the narrative, but also because these stories are emotionally hyperbolic. They lather tragedy & sadness in copious amounts without truly eliciting the emotional trade-off that it promises. Of course I’m not saying this is bad, I enjoy the escapism myself. It’s just that it’s harder to connect with these stories on an emotional level even though so much tragedy is expressed in print.

So by updating the King Arthur narrative & breaking away from the grandiose nature of the french romances & other King Arthur narratives, White succeeded in truly humanizing the characters & allowing readers to empathize with them; especially Arthur & Lancelot — your heart truly breaks for them. I think it’s also worth mentioning that in most narratives, Guenevere is presented as somewhat annoying or simply as an under-developed character & sidelined to triviality. But T.H White pays attention to her in this book & she’s a lot more dignified. The love between her & Lancelot is conveyed in such a way that it praises & truly involves both of them.

This book is about a lot of things. It’s about war, love, spirituality, the difficulty in realizing that the idea you’ve worked on for your whole life might be a mistake, negotiating your value as a person.. We grow up with Arthur in this book since he was a child up to his supposed death. We are with him as he fixes, maintains & loses grip over Britain. We break with him as he loses his wife & best friend & is continually placed in excruciating circumstances during the last period of his life, like having to watch his wife’s execution or having to fight against his best friend. We follow a group of brothers since they were children up till they’re all killed, saved for one, still unreconciled with the sad childhood they had. We understand that even as grown men, and as they were dying, they have always been, fundamentally, boys who have starved for love from their nonchalant mother. My heart breaks & breaks & breaks reading this story. T.H White truly peels apart the psychological & emotional state of the characters & shows us why they are the way they are. We cannot blame them. We understand why the tragedy has transpired the way it did. ( )
  verkur | Jan 8, 2021 |
I read the first book, "The Sword in the Stone" and enjoyed it very much. I'm taking a little break but will pick it up again in the near future to continue...
  bugaboo_4 | Jan 3, 2021 |
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She is not any common earth

Water or wood or air,

But Merlin's Isle of Gramarye

Where you and I will fare.
When shall I be dead and rid
Of the wrong my father did?
How long, how long, till spade and hearse
Put to sleep my mother's curse?
"Nay," said Sir Lancelot "... for

once shamed may never be recovered."
"He thought a little and said:

'I have found the Zoological Gardens of service to many of my patients.  I should prescribe for Mr. Pontifex a course of the larger mammals.  Don't let him think he is taking them medicinally...'
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On Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays it was Court Hand and Summulae Logicales, while the rest of the week it was the Organon, Repetition and Astrology. The governess was always getting muddled - she would take it out of the Wart by rapping his knuckles.
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“If I were to be made a knight,” said the Wart, staring dreamily into the fire, “I should insist on doing my vigil by myself, as Hob does with his hawks, and I should pray to God to let me encounter all the evil in the world in my own person, so that if I conquered there would be none left, and, if I were defeated, I would be the one to suffer for it.”
“That would be extremely presumptuous of you,” said Merlyn, “and you would be conquered, and you would suffer for it.”
“I shouldn’t mind.”
“Wouldn’t you? Wait till it happens and see.”
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These editions of The Once and Future King do not contain The Book of Merlyn. Please do not combine with the editions that do contain The Book of Merlyn.
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"A deluxe hardcover edition of the world's greatest fantasy classic--part of Penguin Galaxy, a collectible series of six sci-fi/fantasy classics, featuring a series introduction by Neil Gaiman T. H. White's masterful retelling of the saga of King Arthur is a fantasy classic as legendary as the sword Excalibur and city of Camelot that are found within its pages. This magical epic takes Arthur from the glorious lyrical phase of his youth, through the disillusioning early years of his reign, to maturity when his vision of the Round Table develops into the search for the Holy Grail, and finally to his weary old age. With memorable characters like Merlin and Owl and Guinevere, beasts who talk and men who fly, wizardry and war, The Once and Future King has become the fantasy masterpiece against which all others are judged, a poignant story of adventure, romance, and magic that has enchanted readers for generations. Penguin Galaxy Six of our greatest masterworks of science fiction and fantasy, in dazzling collector-worthy hardcover editions, and featuring a series introduction by #1 New York Times bestselling author Neil Gaiman, Penguin Galaxy represents a constellation of achievement in visionary fiction, lighting the way toward our knowledge of the universe, and of ourselves. From historical legends to mythic futures, monuments of world-building to mind-bending dystopias, these touchstones of human invention and storytelling ingenuity have transported millions of readers to distant realms, and will continue for generations to chart the frontiers of the imagination. The Once and Future King by T. H. White Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein Dune by Frank Herbert 2001: A Space Odyssey by Arthur C. Clarke The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin Neuromancer by William Gibson For more than seventy years, Penguin has been the leading publisher of classic literature in the English-speaking world. With more than 1,700 titles, Penguin Classics represents a global bookshelf of the best works throughout history and across genres and disciplines. Readers trust the series to provide authoritative texts enhanced by introductions and notes by distinguished scholars and contemporary authors, as well as up-to-date translations by award-winning translators"--

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