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The Once and Future King (1940)

Tekijä: T. H. White

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Fantasy. Fiction. Mythology. HTML:T. H. Whites masterful retelling of the saga of King Arthur is a fantasy classic as legendary as Excalibur and Camelot, and a poignant story of adventure, romance, and magic that has enchanted readers for generations.
 
Once upon a time, a young boy called Wart was tutored by a magician named Merlyn in preparation for a future he couldnt possibly imagine. A future in which he would ally himself with the greatest knights, love a legendary queen and unite a country dedicated to chivalrous values. A future that would see him crowned and known for all time as Arthur, King of the Britons.
 
During Arthurs reign, the kingdom of Camelot was founded to cast enlightenment on the Dark Ages, while the knights of the Round Table embarked on many a noble quest. But Merlyn foresaw the treachery that awaited his liege: the forbidden love between Queen Guenever and Lancelot, the wicked plots of Arthurs half-sister Morgause and the hatred she fostered in Mordred that would bring an end to the kings dreams for Britainand to the king himself.

[The Once and Future King] mingles wisdom, wonderful, laugh-out-loud humor and deep sorrowwhile telling one of the great tales of the Western world.Guy Gavriel Kay.
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    Arthur Rex: A Legendary Novel (tekijä: Thomas Berger) (eromsted)
    eromsted: For a comic take on the legend
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    Guinevere's Gift (tekijä: Nancy Mckenzie) (wordcauldron)
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    wordcauldron: My favorite retelling of Arthurian legend. Period.
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    The Magicians (tekijä: Lev Grossman) (wandering_star)
    wandering_star: I thought of making this recommendation when reading the magical education section of The Magicians, which reminded me of the first book of The Once and Future King. But the wider idea - that magical powers can't stop us from making stupid human mistakes - is also relevant to both books.… (lisätietoja)
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Näyttää 1-5 (yhteensä 197) (seuraava | näytä kaikki)
I've been reading some of the reviews here of this book. Most of them lavish praise, while a couple of the reviewers that I've come to respect hated it. I haven't read it for over 40 years, back when I was a teen. I loved it then, and have kept a copy ever since. Makes me wonder what I would think of it now after so much more reading experience and living. I think I'll try it again, and see if it brings about that old magic I remember. ( )
  MickeyMole | Oct 2, 2023 |
Good adventure story, made up tales about a real myth. ( )
  mykl-s | Aug 13, 2023 |
I couldn't get into this book. The writing style keeps you at a distance instead of putting you in the action. For example,the narrator is describing the castle, and then says that it is mostly falling down now, and that it is nice to lay on one of the exposed floors and watch the sky while tourists walk around below.

The author's writing style just didn't work for me,I had to put this book down and move on. ( )
  blueskygreentrees | Jul 30, 2023 |
I'm slowly making it through some of the dustier tomes in our book room, and this is one that hasn't been taught for years, if ever. I'm reading this after H is for Hawk, as I was intrigued by some of the White biography that Macdonald embeds in her own memoir.

Alas, there's not much about falconry in this story of Arthur "Wart" Pendragon, his trusty mentor Merlyn, and the court dramas including Sirs Gawaine and Lancelot, and Lady Guenevere. The underlying message is mainly about England's embryonic emergence from tribal feudalism to the Arthurian civil society, with the ideal of justice and goodness enforced by the Knights of the Round Table. There is an acknowledgement of human failings - we are naturally weak, selfish, capricious and warlike, and that even the best among us (Lancelot) is a sinner and a liar. And that history is cyclical, and periods of peace and justice are always punctuated by war and dissolution. ( )
  jonbrammer | Jul 1, 2023 |
This was required reading when I was in high school, and it became one of my favorite books. Now that I am re-reading it as an adult, I forgot how hard it was to get through some of the parts of these stories and am now realizing that it has some themes in it that probably were not appropriate for high school kids.

Book 1: The Sword in the Stone - If you have seen the Disney movie of the same name, it kept most of the main parts of the book, but not all. Merlyn does not have a magical face-off with his female nemesis. This book was hands-down the hardest of the four to get through. There was a lot of description about birds and fish and their habitats and traits, etc...this can be very boring. The Sword in the Stone is the story of Arthur as a child, before he knew he was of royal descent, when he was called Wart. By the end of the story, everyone has found out who he truly is, and that's when we transition to...

Book 2: The Queen of Air and Darkness - This is mostly the story of the Orkney clan (Gawaine, Agravaine, Gaheris, and Gareth), the children of Morgause. It is mostly the story of them as children/teenagers, and how they get to the Round Table. The book goes from chapters on the Orkeny's to chapters about Arthur and Court. This book was a much faster read than Sword.

Book 3: The Ill-Made Knight - This is mostly the story of Lancelot and his love for both Arthur and Guenevere. Again, the chapters go back and forth between different characters, but for the most part it is about Lancelot. It tells how he fell in love with Arthur as a child, when Arthur told him about the Round Table and Knights that he wanted to create, and how Lancelot then made it his goal to be the best Knight of the Round Table. This was my favorite book of the four.

Book 4: The Candle in the Wind - This is the story about the fall of the Round Table, the Knights, of Lancelot and Guenevere, and the end of King Arthur's reign. I did not remember the end of this book from when I read it 20 years ago, even though I've always been fascinated with Arthur. This book was a relatively quick read compared to a couple of the others.

I will say that I had a habit of falling asleep during reading this book. I think it was partly because I was tired, partly because now that I'm a little older the act of reading actually puts me to sleep, and in some places it was just that the story was slow moving. There is a lot of extraneous description that I didn't necessarily need, but had to get through to get to the good stuff. I guess that's the way people wrote back then. I do, however, still highly recommend this book to anyone who is even a little bit interested in King Arthur, the Round Table, historic novels, or who just thinks that this book sounds relatively interesting. To put my opinion in perspective, I had to force myself to read Twilight because I thought it was the most boring book ever until about 300 pages in. So please, take my opinion of it being a slow read with a grain of salt because everyone has their own ideas of what makes a great story.

I highly recommend this to young and old, or to people who read it as a child and are now adults. You will definitely see it from a completely different view. ( )
  SassyCassi | Jun 28, 2023 |
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She is not any common earth

Water or wood or air,

But Merlin's Isle of Gramarye

Where you and I will fare.
When shall I be dead and rid
Of the wrong my father did?
How long, how long, till spade and hearse
Put to sleep my mother's curse?
"Nay," said Sir Lancelot "... for

once shamed may never be recovered."
"He thought a little and said:

'I have found the Zoological Gardens of service to many of my patients.  I should prescribe for Mr. Pontifex a course of the larger mammals.  Don't let him think he is taking them medicinally...'
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For J.A.J.A.
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On Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays it was Court Hand and Summulae Logicales, while the rest of the week it was the Organon, Repetition and Astrology. The governess was always getting muddled - she would take it out of the Wart by rapping his knuckles.
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“If I were to be made a knight,” said the Wart, staring dreamily into the fire, “I should insist on doing my vigil by myself, as Hob does with his hawks, and I should pray to God to let me encounter all the evil in the world in my own person, so that if I conquered there would be none left, and, if I were defeated, I would be the one to suffer for it.”
“That would be extremely presumptuous of you,” said Merlyn, “and you would be conquered, and you would suffer for it.”
“I shouldn’t mind.”
“Wouldn’t you? Wait till it happens and see.”
"The best thing for being sad," replied Merlyn, beginning to puff and blow, "is to learn something. That is the only thing that never fails. You may grow old and trembling in your anatomies, you may lie awake at night listening to the disorder of your veins, you may miss your only love, you may see the world about you devastated by evil lunatics, or know your honour trampled in the sewers of baser minds. There is only one thing for it then—to learn. Learn why the world wags and what wags it. That is the only thing which the mind can never exhaust, never alienate, never be tortured by, never fear or distrust, and never dream of regretting."
"Which did you like best," he asked, "the ants or the wild geese?"
"Yet here I am denouncing their ideas of nationalism, being what their politicians would call a traitor—because, by calling names, they can score the cheap debating points. And do you know another thing, Arthur? Life is too bitter already, without territories and wars and noble feuds."
"You have become the king of a domain in which the popular agitators hate each other for racial reasons, while the nobility fight each other for fun, and neither the racial maniac nor the overlord stops to consider the lot of the common soldier, who is the one person that gets hurt. Unless you can make the world wag better than it does at present, King, your reign will be an endless series of petty battles, in which the aggressions will either be from spiteful reasons or from sporting ones, and in which the poor man will be the only one who dies. "
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These editions of The Once and Future King do not contain The Book of Merlyn. Please do not combine with the editions that do contain The Book of Merlyn.
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Fantasy. Fiction. Mythology. HTML:T. H. Whites masterful retelling of the saga of King Arthur is a fantasy classic as legendary as Excalibur and Camelot, and a poignant story of adventure, romance, and magic that has enchanted readers for generations.
 
Once upon a time, a young boy called Wart was tutored by a magician named Merlyn in preparation for a future he couldnt possibly imagine. A future in which he would ally himself with the greatest knights, love a legendary queen and unite a country dedicated to chivalrous values. A future that would see him crowned and known for all time as Arthur, King of the Britons.
 
During Arthurs reign, the kingdom of Camelot was founded to cast enlightenment on the Dark Ages, while the knights of the Round Table embarked on many a noble quest. But Merlyn foresaw the treachery that awaited his liege: the forbidden love between Queen Guenever and Lancelot, the wicked plots of Arthurs half-sister Morgause and the hatred she fostered in Mordred that would bring an end to the kings dreams for Britainand to the king himself.

[The Once and Future King] mingles wisdom, wonderful, laugh-out-loud humor and deep sorrowwhile telling one of the great tales of the Western world.Guy Gavriel Kay.

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