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The impossible has spawned the unthinkable. A near-future military experiment has thrust a US-led multinational armada back to 1942, right into the middle of the naval task force speeding towards Midway Atoll-and what was to be a spectacular Allied triumph in the war in the Pacific. In the chaos that ensues, thousands are killed, but the ripples have only just begun. For these veterans of Pearl Harbor have never seen a helicopter, or a satellite link, or a nuclear weapon. And they've never encountered an African American colonel or a female Australian submarine commander. While they embrace the armada's awesome firepower, they may find the twenty-first-century sailors themselves far from acceptable. Initial jubilation at news the Allies would win the war is quickly doused by the chilling realisation that the time-travellers themselves-by their very presence-have rendered history null and void. Celebration turns to dread when the possibility arises that other elements of the twenty-first-century task force may also have made the trip-and might now be aiding the enemy forces. What happens next is anybody's guess-and everybody's nightmare...… (lisätietoja)
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I like alternative history, the whole "what if..." mindset. While we could never know, it's an interesting thought experiment to change something small or big in the past and try to figure out what the result would have been.

This book, published 2004, is a mix of science fiction and alternative history since it begins jumping 20 years into the future (though judging from the technology it's more like 100 years into the future), followed by moving that future back to 1942 and the second word war.

The result of this alternative history is a lot of clashes on both social and military levels so it's absolutely an interesting idea. The problem is that the author uses a lot of stereotypes to illustrate those conflicts and those stereotypes become nothing but the stereotype. No depth, nothing but surface.

One thing in particular grates me. To create interesting scenes the author had to gift some characters with a great deal of single minded stupidity. Stupidity of a kind that is incompatible with the positions they occupy. It just does not make any sense.

For people considering this and the series it starts, I can at least say that the end is better than the beginning. It's possible the rest of the series is better. ( )
  bratell | Dec 25, 2020 |
This explosive new alternative history novel plunges a 21st-century naval fleet into the middle of the Pacific during combat in World War II--an event that disrupts the course of history.
  PPLL2020 | Aug 4, 2020 |
A science experiment goes wrong next to a military fleet in the year 2020 something sending them back in time to the year 1942. Normally I would be all over this kind of book as I enjoy alternative history. However, I think this book is missing several things such as a middle and and end.

Seriously, this book doesn't have much of a plot other then "Hey look here is this famous historical figure" and repeatedly telling me that every person in the military 70 years ago was sexist and racist. I understand the need to have a character in the book like that to show the differences between social acceptances between the two times, but it starts to get annoying after the fourth or fifth time.

Other thing that bugged me was the constant introduction to characters only to have them be killed off three pages later. The first quarter of the book is taken up by a single battle between the future and past Americans and it jumps around to so many people it becomes confusing.

The third is the plot, or lack there of. If asked to describe this book I would say "military goes back to WWII". If you asked "And what happens?" I wouldn't have much of an answer other then they go around and meet various historical figures. The future people sit around and say "look how racist these people are" and the past people say "I don't understand where we went wrong in the future". The only way to get a complete story, I guess, is to read the next two books in the series.

If I had to compare this to other alt-history that I've read, the closest would be "Island in the Sea of Time", but I think that Stirling did it better. It certainly wasn't as techie as this book, but it had a Over-reaching plot for 3 books, but each book had it's own contained plot as well. ( )
  nmorse | Dec 3, 2019 |
It’s January 2021, and an international task force headed up by the USS Hillary Clinton (a George Bush class supercarrier), is off Indonesia, responding to a political crisis caused by the overthrow of the legitimate government and its replacement by the extremist Caliphate. Because of the haste with which the task force was thrown together, they’ve got with them a research ship that had to come along with its protective escort—no time and no spare forces available to send it off to a safer distance. While the rest of the task force waits and prepares for action, the scientists continue their experiments—which, contrary to the official story, do not involve sea floor mapping. Something goes horribly wrong, and major pieces of the task force find themselves someplace else, surrounded by unfamiliar ships behaving in a hostile manner. It’s now 1942, and the unfamiliar ships turn out to be very familiar, once the naval history buffs recover enough to identify them. It’s the US fleet steaming toward Midway. Unfortunately, the two fleets do major damage to each other before the 21st century officers realize they’re all ostensibly friendlies, and then manage to convey that message convincingly to the 1942 Americans.

Conveying this message convincingly is somewhat hampered by the fact that they’ve got a Japanese ship with them, as well as some German officers. And of course life is further complicated by the racially mixed crew, and the fact that both women and blacks are well-represented among the officers. But with major damage to both fleets, including the fact that some of the 21st century task force apparently didn’t make the trip successfully, they have to learn to work together if they’re going to prevent a disaster at Midway.

It’s extremely well-done, fast-paced and exciting. The characters, from Admiral Phillip Kolhammer on the Hillary Clinton, down to Able Seaman Slim Jim Davidson, on the USS Astoria, are mostly well-rounded and convincing (although some of the 1942 British officers do seem to have been cobbled together out of left-over cardboard. Birmingham, by the way, is Australian.) And mostly the history seems correct, up to the point where it starts changing, and if any of the military details are wrong, I’m not knowledgable enough to catch them. There is one minor error, though, demonstrating why it’s dangerous for British and Australian writers to assume that America is as much like their homes as the language sometimes suggests: At one point, Birmingham has two of his 1940s American enlisted seamen, Moose Molloy and Slim Jim Davidson, talking about American “Girl Guides.” While it’s perfectly correct that the organization was originally founded as “Girl Guides of America” in 1912, they changed their name to “Girl Scouts of America” in 1913. Moose and Slim Jim would never have heard the name “Girl Guides,” much less used it in casual conversation. This is such an obscure bit of information that googling “Girl Guides of America” takes you to the Wikipedia article that explains this in its first few sentences: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_Scouts_of_the_USA This does give me some concerning, wondering what other details he missed that may be glaringly obvious to someone else.

Nevertheless, it’s a fun book and I recommend it.
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  LisCarey | Sep 19, 2018 |
It's well written but it's not my kind of book. ( )
  Belles007 | Jan 17, 2016 |
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The impossible has spawned the unthinkable. A near-future military experiment has thrust a US-led multinational armada back to 1942, right into the middle of the naval task force speeding towards Midway Atoll-and what was to be a spectacular Allied triumph in the war in the Pacific. In the chaos that ensues, thousands are killed, but the ripples have only just begun. For these veterans of Pearl Harbor have never seen a helicopter, or a satellite link, or a nuclear weapon. And they've never encountered an African American colonel or a female Australian submarine commander. While they embrace the armada's awesome firepower, they may find the twenty-first-century sailors themselves far from acceptable. Initial jubilation at news the Allies would win the war is quickly doused by the chilling realisation that the time-travellers themselves-by their very presence-have rendered history null and void. Celebration turns to dread when the possibility arises that other elements of the twenty-first-century task force may also have made the trip-and might now be aiding the enemy forces. What happens next is anybody's guess-and everybody's nightmare...

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