Pics from the abyss

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Pics from the abyss

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maaliskuu 24, 2010, 11:03 pm

Looks like Odilon Redon. The snake Lady? Nice. Redon is an old favorite. I think Art Institute Chicago has a few.
How about artists and titles, if you have them?

maaliskuu 25, 2010, 12:06 am

Good idea for a thread.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 25, 2010, 9:51 am

It is in fact Redon - "The Green Death". Do you have his To Myself: Notes on Life, Art and Artists? I keep meaning to read it.

maaliskuu 25, 2010, 10:26 am

"Snake Lady" immediately reminds me of John Colliers' "Lilith" though:

maaliskuu 25, 2010, 1:43 pm

"To Myself" looks interesting. I have Odilon Redon: Prince of Dreams, a good survey.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 25, 2010, 2:32 pm

John Collier is an interesting writer, beyond his sardonic ghost stories. I enjoyed his nice, strange and entertaining His Monkey Wife. I had to hunt for my used copy; now it seems it's in print in several editions.

maaliskuu 25, 2010, 2:47 pm

Interesting - I was talking about the British painter John Collier ( though.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 25, 2010, 6:46 pm

So it's obvious then I disregarded the link and just gave in to my impulses? Thank you (More interesting - they seem to have occurred at the same time and on the same island, these John Colliers). (post-link visit: I like Collier's snake lady better than His Monkey Wife).

maaliskuu 26, 2010, 7:54 am

Viestin kirjoittaja on poistanut viestin.

maaliskuu 26, 2010, 10:25 am

An obvious choice but John Henry Fuseli's The Nightmare

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 26, 2010, 6:52 pm

Although I wasn't too impressed on the whole with Dijkstra's Idols of Perversity, it did--just as I had hoped--lead me to a number of painters dealing with decadent themes whom I'd previously overlooked.

My review is here:

maaliskuu 28, 2010, 11:06 am

What's the body in the snow?

maaliskuu 28, 2010, 2:28 pm

Robert Walser, I think.

huhtikuu 22, 2010, 8:45 am

Did you have to sell the farm to get Uel Key?

Re: John Collier; I've been watching "Alfred Hitchcock Presents". Seems like 1/2 the stories are JC.

Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 22, 2010, 10:20 am

I don't own a copy, and at the price being asked, I never will (I employed a professional speech writer to sell my better half on why I should spend $150 on A House of Pomegranates). I used to love "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" (and Outer Limits, etc.. Didn't Collier make the hadj to Hollywood, like Waugh, etc.?

toukokuu 12, 2010, 3:28 pm

OK, I give up. Doesn't show up on LT search. Author of "The Cold Stone Heart"? Great title.

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 12, 2010, 4:58 pm

It is one of the tales told in Wilhelm Hauff's The Inn in the Spessart. A standard fairy tale involving wisdom and the lack of it and, more importantly, encounters with the elemental wee-men of the forest.

toukokuu 12, 2010, 5:52 pm

For those of a humorous bent, check out this "Uncyclopedia" article:

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 3, 2010, 10:28 am

Great pic today, BW. Who is it by? ETA - never mind, when I blow it up I can see the signature.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 3, 2010, 12:16 pm

It reminds me of one of the snappy songs of my youth: "That's when I reach for my revolver" (Mission of Burma).

elokuu 8, 2010, 12:06 pm

Looks like an early version of Satan Sowing Tares by Rops. An old fav. The final version has a lot more detail
and color.

elokuu 8, 2010, 1:59 pm

That's it. I like the bleakness. Many of Rops's colorful canvases seem like naughty cartoons.

elokuu 8, 2010, 2:13 pm

Nothing wrong with naughty cartoons! Some of my favorite art is....
It looks like a print. Maybe a litho or etching?

elokuu 9, 2010, 9:16 pm

Mine too!

syyskuu 23, 2010, 1:10 am

Looks like James Ensor, but I don't think so.

syyskuu 23, 2010, 10:45 pm

When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back ... and has really bad hair.

syyskuu 24, 2010, 1:36 pm

It is Julio Ruelas' "The Hangman".

huhtikuu 27, 2011, 3:41 pm

How come I haven't heard of Leonor Fini before?
Art history fails me again.
Thanks, Ben. She's amazing.
Leonor Fini - Le Bout du monde (1948)

heinäkuu 22, 2011, 8:28 pm

Another strange, interesting Mossa.

heinäkuu 29, 2011, 10:08 am

Theda Bara:

Not what one would expect from "a nice Jewish girl from Ohio."

huhtikuu 2, 2012, 4:07 pm

How about some Takato Yamamoto, and Vania Zouravliov?

huhtikuu 3, 2012, 8:27 am

VF, Je vous remercie pour cette opportunite kleptique.

huhtikuu 6, 2012, 8:45 pm

Hadrian the VII would definitely have an issue with this:

Happy Easter from the gilt theocrats of the Holy See of the Eastern Orthodox Church

huhtikuu 8, 2012, 5:12 pm

The late not-at-all-lamented Thomas "Mephistopheles" Kinkade and his ever-present pestilential galleries of blurry cottages and Heavy Christian Overtones:

The Abyss stares back and it's rather banal and common.

huhtikuu 9, 2012, 3:38 pm

Everytime I looked at one of his paintings the first thing I thought of was that those cute little buildings were all built on a flood plain and would most certainly be wiped out with the next big storm.

huhtikuu 9, 2012, 8:07 pm

An explanation for his prolific hackery is that he used to be a matte artist in Hollywood. I'd rather hang a Chapman Brothers picture in my living room, next to the Felicien Rops and Alfred Kubin

huhtikuu 12, 2012, 6:03 pm

huhtikuu 17, 2012, 2:17 pm

Hah, seeing the Jahnn cover just now gave me a turn--I opened a box containing the book not five minutes ago! Not the same edition, though. Would've been too much.

huhtikuu 17, 2012, 4:01 pm

Hermes passed by ;)

huhtikuu 30, 2012, 8:23 pm

Original litho crayon drawing from a few years ago.

huhtikuu 30, 2012, 9:56 pm

Oh Christ - watermarked! Can't steal it now! Good stuf!

huhtikuu 30, 2012, 10:02 pm

Got to watch out for art thieves, amigo!

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 7, 2012, 9:19 pm

Viestin kirjoittaja on poistanut viestin.

toukokuu 2, 2012, 8:57 pm

Very nice. If I could have one wish granted that wish would be to be able to draw.

toukokuu 2, 2012, 9:11 pm

Gracias, amigos.
I've drawn all my life, mostly figure drawing.
The human figure is the ultimate challenge and subject,
especially the female of the species, extremely difficult to draw well.

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 27, 2012, 4:15 am

> 28 (tros):

Sorry for being so late to respond, but - the one Leonor Fini form my modest collection

"Le train blanc" (lithograph)

toukokuu 16, 2012, 4:36 pm

I Dream of Eastern Shame Girl.

toukokuu 23, 2012, 11:48 am

The current pic will get me in trouble at work.

toukokuu 23, 2012, 1:33 pm

Me too. Put Redon's Smiling Spider back

toukokuu 23, 2012, 1:39 pm

Private web use in the boss's time - shame on you ;-)

toukokuu 23, 2012, 1:44 pm

Beset and besieged! I feel like Willard. Damned protestants. (I was at home, on lunch :)

toukokuu 23, 2012, 2:36 pm

Howdy Doody?

I vote for Mahlon Blaine.

toukokuu 23, 2012, 7:48 pm

I'm thinking of having the profile picture of VolupteFunebre as my wallpaper, speaking of trouble at work!

toukokuu 24, 2012, 7:47 am

Copy cat.

toukokuu 24, 2012, 1:47 pm

She's quite the looker, that one.

toukokuu 24, 2012, 9:22 pm

From the looks of it, she's turned into a mannequin. I prefer monocles to mannequins, but that's just me. ;)

kesäkuu 4, 2012, 11:02 am

God damn that Belgian book looks expensive. But now that I know of it how can I resist?

kesäkuu 4, 2012, 12:54 pm

I held off for awhile - but the contents are quite good and nowhere else anthologized, to my knowledge.

kesäkuu 13, 2012, 4:41 pm

Nice! Are there any stories in The Magician's Garden and Other Stories not in Opium?

kesäkuu 13, 2012, 5:07 pm

No - same book, but a hard cover edition. There is a film based on the stories in this book by the way, Opium: Diary of a Madwoman - by János Szász. My copy came today.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 19, 2012, 7:05 pm

The latest has me itching for a set of colored markers and a black light. In a good way.

kesäkuu 20, 2012, 3:02 pm

What is the unexpected love lesson about? Is it collectible?

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 20, 2012, 3:58 pm

Collectively collectable? I'm not certain. I don't think it's a very common book these days. It's a brief and commonplace tale of a career of sexual sport from the from the 1700s. It certainly sits (or squats) well in the lazy reads section (growing as fast a canker) of my library. There are several of Nerciat's amusingly smutty novels available in in English (I posted the French version in a .pdf this morning in another thread in this group). You might also consider the Memoirs of Cardinal Dubois (translated by Dowson and published by Leonard Smithers). From what I gather the man was a study in compulsive, soul-withering, dissipation. He was also a statesman, so the book has some value beyond its tawdry catalogs of debaucheries - which is why I purchased it, of course.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 20, 2012, 4:07 pm

I can post a list of these 18th century libertine novels, if anyone is interested. I'm not certain if I have them all conveniently tagged, so it might take some time. I am thinking particularly of a series published in London by Chapman & Hall in the 20s... I know I have a title or so from that series. Also, before I forget - Felicien Rops provided a few curious illustrations for editions of Nerciat published in the late 19th century.

heinäkuu 8, 2012, 10:32 pm

Mmm, I was going to get that vampire Chessex. How was it? Based on true events in some Swiss village?

heinäkuu 8, 2012, 11:00 pm

A "hot" mermaid by Waterhouse.

heinäkuu 9, 2012, 10:52 am

66: Yes - very good, quick read. Grotesque events, based on real events, according to the blurb on the back of the book. Like Muschg (and Faulkner and Cormac McCarthy), a sketch of a mean and isolated and irrational world where monsters are cultivated as well as (in)bred. There is the usual xenophobia and ingrained superstition, but the focus is on a morbid or even macabre sexuality exuding from and lingering over the place, like a poisonous atmosphere: rampant rapes, incest, necrophilia.

I had never heard of Chessex until I read your post in The Hellfire Club. Thank you!

heinäkuu 9, 2012, 11:04 am

You're welcome; always delighted to bring rapes, incest and necrophilia into one's life--and let's face it, you've returned the favour many times.

heinäkuu 9, 2012, 12:36 pm

Well, I have been around the block a few times, re the above - but, to quote Mick Somethingorother once again, Chessex made it feel like the very first time (Didn't Zola write a novel in which a character, strolling along the boulevards of Paris, passes the time by trying to discern at which establishment random passersby took their daily meals, based on traces of various forms of poisoning etched in their features? I think I suffer from a sort of aural poisoning. Those hated FM anthems of my youth are the only ones I can't forget. I should play them backwards some time....).

heinäkuu 17, 2012, 11:32 pm


Decadence lives on in Fifties Horror kitsch.

lokakuu 14, 2012, 6:26 pm

Came across a handful of amazing images of Weimar-era decadence by Marta Astfalck-Vietz online - anyone know more about her?

lokakuu 15, 2012, 2:14 am

She has a Wikipedia page (in German): Not very informative though.

lokakuu 15, 2012, 9:10 pm

What's in those American Aphrodite journals?

lokakuu 15, 2012, 10:52 pm

Some mild smut and some interesting things:

lokakuu 16, 2012, 10:20 am

In the link that I pasted, you will find stories and poems by Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, Josephin Peladan, Petrus Borel, George Sylvester Viereck, H. A. Manhood, Aleister Crowley, Edgar Saltus, etc., and the artwork of Rops and Blaine and others.

lokakuu 16, 2012, 12:52 pm

The Josephin Peladan one looks very tempting as precious little by him is translated.

lokakuu 16, 2012, 1:14 pm

Scattered throughout the volumes are many of Sacher-Masoch's short stories as well. Those also are hard to come by. I'm 2 volumes shy of a full run... in so many ways.

lokakuu 26, 2012, 5:04 pm

lokakuu 26, 2012, 7:34 pm

75. Wow. Thanks. What a treasure trove. I know what I'll be doing this weekend. I think I'll start with the Peladan. I've wanted to read something by him for ages.

Muokkaaja: tammikuu 18, 2013, 6:19 pm

Nice find on the Borel! I guess it's not coming out on Black Coat Press after all. I like how the title on the cover is misspelled lol.

tammikuu 18, 2013, 7:23 pm

Damn cheesy cover as well - more so even than the Black Coat Press titles. An atrocity. Of sorts.

Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 19, 2013, 10:58 am

Hello everyone.
On the subject of Pics from the Abyss, here's a few links to working artists who plough the Abyssmal furrow: - his pencil work especially. - has moments of Ropsness, for instance "Nuns of Loudun". - check out his "Mother", as it were. - B&W or colour, his pictures are always perfectly balanced. - especially his peoplefaces - you'll know what I mean when you see them.

toukokuu 7, 2013, 11:27 pm

toukokuu 8, 2013, 8:32 am


toukokuu 10, 2013, 6:30 pm

85: But I can't find this Grove version on ye olde Interwebs. Here's Kirby's take on a Catholic triptych:

kesäkuu 7, 2013, 6:56 pm

kesäkuu 26, 2013, 3:54 pm

The guy has a great set of wings.

kesäkuu 26, 2013, 9:07 pm

And nice pair of melons.

kesäkuu 26, 2013, 9:36 pm

AW, you....

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 26, 2013, 10:42 pm

Uh, oh... Just pointing out the obvious, something I'm very good at.

elokuu 10, 2013, 9:34 am

Cesare Borgia from the show of the same name:

"He can polish my mitre any time."

elokuu 22, 2013, 4:33 pm

syyskuu 7, 2013, 3:05 pm

Pierre Amédée Marcel Beronneau, 'Femme au Serpent', c. 1906

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 27, 2013, 3:42 pm

I visited the Musée d'Orsay last week. On the right side of the entrance there is a fabulous collection of Fin de siecle art, including the portrait of Proust by Blanche, the portrait of Robert de Montesquiou (Baron de Charlus in Proust's novels) by Boldini, lots of paintings by Toulose-Lautrec. They had on loan a painting by Gustave Moreau, La Débauche:

lokakuu 28, 2013, 7:44 pm

Where would one put Michael Moorcock and his decadent amoral aristocrat warrior, Elric of Melnibone?

Muokkaaja: helmikuu 10, 2014, 10:28 pm

Some hash party! Damn!

Hashish (The Hashish Smokers), by Previati Gaetano, 1887

toukokuu 13, 2014, 1:17 pm

RIP HR Giger, the Swiss artist of decadently erotic biomechanical nightmares and dreamscapes:

A modern Des Esseintes shouldn't be without one of these:

Perfect for the on-the-go executive who occasionally rips out the beating hearts of orphans and scullery maids, bathing himself in the blood of innocents amidst the wail of haggard coyotes and ... well, I'm getting ahead of myself.

Luckily, his depraved vision lives on with artists like Kuksi:

joulukuu 6, 2014, 5:56 pm

joulukuu 20, 2014, 5:19 pm

Alméry Lobel-Riche - Les Diaboliques

joulukuu 20, 2014, 9:44 pm

"Romance" by Nenslo:

(From the official site of the Church of the SubGenius)

joulukuu 30, 2014, 1:47 pm

tammikuu 19, 2015, 5:43 pm

Images of my new book, The NSFW Files: an appreciation of erotica in literature and comics:

Check out the limited edition hardcover:

It's like one of those beautifully produced smutty gems made in the Victorian era and until the 1920s, tiny print runs for "discerning customers" with deep pockets and jaded tastes:

tammikuu 25, 2015, 2:08 pm


huhtikuu 2, 2015, 2:20 pm

When amateurs mistake cold steel for fashion accessories:

Nils Dardel (Swedish, 1888–1943), Dandy med svärd {Dandy with sword}.

Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 3, 2015, 8:37 am

113: Not to be confused with "Blue Steel," by Derek Zoolander:

huhtikuu 11, 2015, 1:42 pm

113. This image reminds me of the story "The Permanent Stiletto" by W.C. Morrow

huhtikuu 11, 2015, 1:54 pm

Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 14, 2015, 9:28 am

Received the book: it's nicely designed - dj art is by the author, as are several illustrations within. The appendix includes several stories by her husband. More after I've read it.

syyskuu 9, 2015, 11:09 am

The Johann Strauss II Memorial:

syyskuu 9, 2015, 2:01 pm

Maybe change your pic size. It's enormous. Beautiful, but enormous!

syyskuu 21, 2015, 11:50 am

For those who enjoyed Voluptuous Panic, Mel Gordon has a new coming out in October, Horizontal Collaboration, about the erotic world of Paris between 1920 and 1946.

helmikuu 16, 2016, 10:02 pm

helmikuu 18, 2016, 8:39 pm

Salammbo by Almery Lobel-Riche

huhtikuu 9, 2016, 8:08 pm

Serafino Macchiati (Italian, 1861-1916), Paul Verlaine, Bibi la Purée et Stéphane Mallarmé au café Procope (1890)

huhtikuu 10, 2016, 6:02 pm

The interior of the Tom of Finland House in Echo Park, Los Angeles:

huhtikuu 17, 2016, 5:59 pm

Renzo Mongiardino, the Architect of Illusion, a story from the NY Times T Magazine:

He did set design for Franco Zeffirelli and Visconti. If The Chapel of the Abyss was going to have an interior decorator, I'd nominate Mongiardino.

Employing lush romanticism and arcane classical references pulled from a magic bag of artificial effects, he enabled a certain sector of the very rich to make their own mark on the 20th century.

toukokuu 16, 2016, 9:01 am

Good lord. An early pioneer of the head shop school!

elokuu 7, 2016, 5:26 pm

Is it a self-portrait? I'm dire altogether at recognising faces but the hair makes me think that it might be Bernhardt herself.

Not a single image, but have recently again opened Beyond Time and Place: Nonrealist Art in the Nineteenth Century, which has something of the abyss about it & might well appeal. Going for a song on amazon--is often had for 1p on UK amazon in fact--and worth considering for the (mostly b&w) illustrations alone, though the text is very good. Not only does it thank god give little attention to the pre-Raphaelites but author includes lesser-known artists I knew of only because I had art history classes &, unexpectedly, works by Victor Hugo and by Strindberg.

joulukuu 14, 2016, 5:25 pm

The incomparable Richard Sandler:

Street-photographer who captured the go-go spirit of NYC during the heyday of cocaine and Donald Trump actually having money.

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