Question about Band of Brothers/LoMH
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1NHMountainMan
I have been a longtime lurker and user of LT and finally decided to sign up and start entering my collection. If anything, it will give me a chance to inventory my personal library. I decided to start with what I knew would be the most time consuming to enter, and those are my Easton Press books. I have almost the complete Library of Military History (LoMH) collection and had a question regarding Band of Brothers by Stephen Ambrose.
Several of lists that I have seen for the LoMH collection show Band of Brothers on it, however I have never seen an unsigned copy. Did EP ever release Band of Brothers in an unsigned edition? I know they did that with Flags of Our Fathers by James Bradley (a signed edition and then an unsigned with the LoMH collector's notes). I am lucky enough to have a signed copy of Band of Brothers, however the completionist in me is wondering if there was ever an unsigned copy released with the LoMH collector's notes.
While I am asking questions, has anyone ever seen a collector's note sheet for The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Rhodes? It is the only book on the LoMH lists that I have never seen a collector's note sheet for. Was this book actually part of the LoMH collection or just a book that was sold under EP's 'Military History' section?
I realize the note sheets are trivial, however we all have our hobbies.
After spending a good chunk of the last four days entering my EP books, I am only just over halfway through them. I wish there was an easier way to list those!
Several of lists that I have seen for the LoMH collection show Band of Brothers on it, however I have never seen an unsigned copy. Did EP ever release Band of Brothers in an unsigned edition? I know they did that with Flags of Our Fathers by James Bradley (a signed edition and then an unsigned with the LoMH collector's notes). I am lucky enough to have a signed copy of Band of Brothers, however the completionist in me is wondering if there was ever an unsigned copy released with the LoMH collector's notes.
While I am asking questions, has anyone ever seen a collector's note sheet for The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Rhodes? It is the only book on the LoMH lists that I have never seen a collector's note sheet for. Was this book actually part of the LoMH collection or just a book that was sold under EP's 'Military History' section?
I realize the note sheets are trivial, however we all have our hobbies.
After spending a good chunk of the last four days entering my EP books, I am only just over halfway through them. I wish there was an easier way to list those!
2GOBOGIE
Never seen an unsigned copy of BoB but I’m not expert. I have been collecting for 26 yrs but there are fellas on here that make me look like beginner and have much more knowledge.
3treereader
I've never owned either (I only have a cheap paperback of it). However, given that there was definitely a signed version and that it is a relatively newer title (1992), I'm inclined to believe EP would have published its version first through one of its "signed" series. If that's the case, they wouldn't have sold any unsigned copies until after the signature stack ran dry, and had a print rerun ordered from the printer. Ambrose died in 2002, so the signature stack must run out sooner than later.
Enter HBO. The book becomes a very popular miniseries (2001) and makes a load of money more than the book would have on its own. DVDs and Blu-rays of it are still being sold today. This suggests to me that whatever copyright and distribution contracts existed before, between Ambrose and the publisher, all got revised or replaced to include these new profit stream avenues. EP may very well have lost its ability to request any new print runs of the text.
So that begs the question - if any of us called EP up right now and asked for a copy, is it still available? If not, is it just a matter of it being out of cycle (i.e., it's on deck to be reprinted in the next year or two)?
For what it's worth, my gut tells me that they lost their rights after their one printing stint, HBO shook up the landscape, and that no unsigned copies were ever officially published. Maybe there are a few one-offs from quality testing or whatever that weren't supposed to be sold. That paperback copy I have was printed post-HBO shake-up...their name is plastered all over it.
Also, this is probably the one place where those collector's sheets aren't considered trivial. We may not all value them personally but most of us here respect them as part of the overall product and will take care of them anyway.
Enter HBO. The book becomes a very popular miniseries (2001) and makes a load of money more than the book would have on its own. DVDs and Blu-rays of it are still being sold today. This suggests to me that whatever copyright and distribution contracts existed before, between Ambrose and the publisher, all got revised or replaced to include these new profit stream avenues. EP may very well have lost its ability to request any new print runs of the text.
So that begs the question - if any of us called EP up right now and asked for a copy, is it still available? If not, is it just a matter of it being out of cycle (i.e., it's on deck to be reprinted in the next year or two)?
For what it's worth, my gut tells me that they lost their rights after their one printing stint, HBO shook up the landscape, and that no unsigned copies were ever officially published. Maybe there are a few one-offs from quality testing or whatever that weren't supposed to be sold. That paperback copy I have was printed post-HBO shake-up...their name is plastered all over it.
Also, this is probably the one place where those collector's sheets aren't considered trivial. We may not all value them personally but most of us here respect them as part of the overall product and will take care of them anyway.
4NHMountainMan
>3 treereader: After thinking about it some more, I should have just looked at my own shelves for the answer. EP released three signed Ambrose books about WWII (Band of Brothers, D-Day, and Citizen Soldiers). I have all three and none of those are in the LoMH, although D-Day was also released as part of the 6-volume Turning Points of World War II set. I think it was because I have seen Band of Brothers on several LoMH lists that my original question came up.
5proximity1
>3 treereader:
Would you offer this newbie a brief description of what "collector's note sheet" means in this context? I'm not familiar with it and "Google"/Wikipedia were no help.
thanks.
Would you offer this newbie a brief description of what "collector's note sheet" means in this context? I'm not familiar with it and "Google"/Wikipedia were no help.
thanks.
6NHMountainMan
>5 proximity1: Several Easton Press collections (i.e., Library of Military History and Library of American History) include a collector's note sheet with each book which is a brief synopsis of that particular book. The collector's note sheet is basically a replacement for what would be printed on the inside flaps of a dustjacket, which are non-existent on EP books. Many used copies no longer have the collector's note sheet, and they do not necessarily add any intrinsic value to a book, however collectors who are completionists value them. An example can be seen in the picture here:
https://www.amazon.com/Easton-Library-Military-History-Stanton/dp/B08W1TWLTL
https://www.amazon.com/Easton-Library-Military-History-Stanton/dp/B08W1TWLTL
7EPsonNY
>1 NHMountainMan:
1. The Making of the Atomic Bomb is part of LoMH, but the only volume published without a collector's note.
2. The Band of Brothers is not part of LoMH. It was only published as a signed edition with author's full signature containing his first and last name. The only true match is with D-Day/Citizen Soldiers set containing Ambrose's full signature as there is also a D-Day/Citizen Soldiers set with Ambrose's initials signature that does not match the signature in Band of Brothers (that second set was re-issued later allegedly when the author's health was in decline and he was unable to sign in full).
3. D-Day was issued as part of LoMH with a collector's note page, but with a slightly different spine design with only one box (on top) containing both the title and the author's name, i.e. https://www.ebay.com/itm/125684704274.
1. The Making of the Atomic Bomb is part of LoMH, but the only volume published without a collector's note.
2. The Band of Brothers is not part of LoMH. It was only published as a signed edition with author's full signature containing his first and last name. The only true match is with D-Day/Citizen Soldiers set containing Ambrose's full signature as there is also a D-Day/Citizen Soldiers set with Ambrose's initials signature that does not match the signature in Band of Brothers (that second set was re-issued later allegedly when the author's health was in decline and he was unable to sign in full).
3. D-Day was issued as part of LoMH with a collector's note page, but with a slightly different spine design with only one box (on top) containing both the title and the author's name, i.e. https://www.ebay.com/itm/125684704274.
8NHMountainMan
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9NHMountainMan
>7 EPsonNY: Appreciate the info. Strange about The Making of the Atomic Bomb. Not sure how I missed that D-Day was also part of the LoMH (just makes sense). I guess all the copies I had seen were either the signed (or initialed) copies or the green editions from the Turning Points of WWII set (title above and author's name in bottom box).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144296570693?hash=item2198beef45:g:8YoAAOSwlelhlrYJ&....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144296570693?hash=item2198beef45:g:8YoAAOSwlelhlrYJ&....
11treereader
>10 proximity1:
Yes, thanks >6 NHMountainMan: for covering that. I've been out of town and am just seeing >5 proximity1:'s request now.
It's always baffled me that they opted for loose collectors notes instead of including them as a bound bit of preface. I think LEC or HP may have done something like this in the past, so maybe they picked up the habit from them.
Yes, thanks >6 NHMountainMan: for covering that. I've been out of town and am just seeing >5 proximity1:'s request now.
It's always baffled me that they opted for loose collectors notes instead of including them as a bound bit of preface. I think LEC or HP may have done something like this in the past, so maybe they picked up the habit from them.
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