twitter ~ Musk vs. Dorsey
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1Molly3028
Trump ban
The main difference between Musk and the former twitter leader is that Musk, the right-wing nut, wants an all-out culture war to play out on his new toy, and Dorsey, thank heavens, never wanted the platform to perpetuate that kind of uncontrollable turmoil. We managed to avoid a dangerous iceberg that could have turned a culture war into a civil war.
I am hoping that the brown demographic wave can overtake the Murdoch & Musk waves that are endangering America on a daily basis.
The main difference between Musk and the former twitter leader is that Musk, the right-wing nut, wants an all-out culture war to play out on his new toy, and Dorsey, thank heavens, never wanted the platform to perpetuate that kind of uncontrollable turmoil. We managed to avoid a dangerous iceberg that could have turned a culture war into a civil war.
I am hoping that the brown demographic wave can overtake the Murdoch & Musk waves that are endangering America on a daily basis.
2Kuiperdolin
Twitter banning the Donald was treasonous and likely illegal.
Musk is slightly better than Charles Manson-lookalike they had before but he still sounds like a buffoon. Several of my colleagues seem to think everything he does is beyond reproach. Cringe to worship someone uncritically like that.
Musk is slightly better than Charles Manson-lookalike they had before but he still sounds like a buffoon. Several of my colleagues seem to think everything he does is beyond reproach. Cringe to worship someone uncritically like that.
3kiparsky
>2 Kuiperdolin: Do explain. What's the basis for the "treason" claim, and what law do you reckon was broken?
4Molly3028
The twitter employees who deplatformed Trump used the common sense God gave them. They knew an insurrection leader when they saw and heard him inciting a call to action on 1/6. Unfortunately, common sense is no longer common in America.
5prosfilaes
>2 Kuiperdolin: A society where a company refusing to print what the President demands is "treasonous" and "illegal" is not a free one.
6MsMixte
>2 Kuiperdolin: Please do explain why banning someone from a privately held social media forum is 'illegal'.
Twitter is NOT the US government, so no 1st amendment rights attach to it.
I'd have thought that people who are supposed to be literate would know that by now.
Twitter is NOT the US government, so no 1st amendment rights attach to it.
I'd have thought that people who are supposed to be literate would know that by now.
7Molly3028
The uncovered emails regarding the twitter Trump banning, is evidence that liberals continue to have functioning common sense genes in their DNA.
8Kuiperdolin
>6 MsMixte: it's already been asked and answered. You'd think "people who are supposed to be literate" would know how to used the search function before asserting blatant falsehoods.
Demonrat judges have rules that Trump twitter is a public not private space and that the first amendment applies to it. Decisions of justice holds even when they're inconvenient to libs despite their attempts to wriggle out of them.
Demonrat judges have rules that Trump twitter is a public not private space and that the first amendment applies to it. Decisions of justice holds even when they're inconvenient to libs despite their attempts to wriggle out of them.
10kiparsky
>8 Kuiperdolin: Asked, yes, but not answered. What laws do you reckon were broken?
And as usual, if you have no idea what you think and no answer to the question, feel free to confirm it by not answering.
And as usual, if you have no idea what you think and no answer to the question, feel free to confirm it by not answering.
11Molly3028
twitter is down ~ Tesla is down ~ bio lab sh*t ~ SpaceX ?????
Thankfully, it appears that Musk is not as adept at juggling as many balls as Bezos and other billionaires can day in and day out. He was an accident looking for a place to happen.
Thankfully, it appears that Musk is not as adept at juggling as many balls as Bezos and other billionaires can day in and day out. He was an accident looking for a place to happen.
12prosfilaes
>8 Kuiperdolin: Asked, but not answered, at least not here. And as pointed out, the President of the United States, the head of the Executive Branch, not being able to block people on his publishing tool of choice does not impose any restrictions on that (privately owned) publishing tool or the non-governmental users of that tool.
13Kuiperdolin
It's called coherence, look it up
14prosfilaes
>13 Kuiperdolin: What I see is you refusing to communicate.
15kiparsky
>13 Kuiperdolin: So, what are we to make of the fact that you can't answer a simple question about your own putative opinions?
16margd
Musk's tweet about prosecuting Fauci was final straw for many scientists who fled Twitter.
A shame that this interdisciplinary platform open to all may be lost...
Twitter changed science — what happens now it’s in turmoil?
The microblogging platform has transformed research communication, but its future is in doubt.
Chris Stokel-Walker | 20 December 2022
...For hundreds of thousands of scientists, Twitter is a sounding board, megaphone and common room: a place to broadcast research findings, debate issues in academia and interact with people who they wouldn’t normally meet up with.
...Since the site’s founding in 2006, Twitter executives have often asserted that it aims to be nothing less than a ‘public town square’ of communication; it now claims almost 250 million daily users. At that scale, abuse, misinformation and bots have been ever-present, but for many researchers, the advantages of rapid, widespread communication to each other and an engaged public outweighed these problems.
...A 2014 Nature survey found that 13% of researchers used Twitter regularly
... major role in science communication...about one-third of all the scientific literature gets tweeted...during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, more than half of all journal articles on COVID-19 published up to April 2021 were mentioned at least once on Twitter
...for many scientists, Twitter has become an essential tool for collaboration and discovery — a source of real-time conversations around research papers, conference talks and wider topics in academia. Papers now zip around scientific communities faster thanks to Twitter, says Johann Unger, a linguist at Lancaster University, UK, who notes that extra information is also shared in direct private messages through the site. And its limit on tweet length — currently 280 characters — has pushed academics into keeping their commentary pithy, he adds.
The social platform has flattened hierarchies, throwing people into conversations regardless of geography, seniority or specialism....
It has also given an influential voice to people who might otherwise be excluded, and has helped to broker support networks for those who don’t see people like them in their own departments...Movements united by hashtags — from #IAmAScientistBecause to #BlackInTheIvory — have often seen Twitter acting as a rallying point for discussing key problems
... a hotbed for researchers studying social reactions to world events — in particular, how information spreads on the network
...insults, abuse...oversimplified information, posted alarmist analyses or shared outright disinformation...the pandemic showed how users segregate to follow mostly those with similar views...During the pandemic, it gave the public more transparency about the uncertain process of science progressing in real time
...Researchers leaving the platform will probably try to find a similar social-media replacement, says (Oded Rechavi, who works on transgenerational inheritance at Tel Aviv University in Israel). “I imagine that if Twitter stops being the place for scientists to be, then it’ll be replaced by something else,” he says. “I just can’t imagine going back to being disconnected from the rest of the science world.”
...Mastodon, the open-source alternative to Twitter...users can post longer messages, but the dynamics of the platform deliberately make it harder to discover or encounter messages from users one doesn’t directly follow, making communities more siloed and fragmented. (User numbers are still tiny compared with Twitter, estimated at some 2.5 million in early December.)
...“A social network is always only successful if it’s got enough people, and if it’s got the right people,” says (Stefanie Haustein at the University of Ottawa in Canada, who has studied the impact of Twitter on scientific communication). “It requires millions of people to move from one place to the other.” Even if that happens, she says, you need to rebuild the same networks and structures that existed on Twitter — which is proving hard because of the way that control of Mastodon is distributed across servers, making it difficult for those who were on Twitter to reconnect...
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04506-6
A shame that this interdisciplinary platform open to all may be lost...
Twitter changed science — what happens now it’s in turmoil?
The microblogging platform has transformed research communication, but its future is in doubt.
Chris Stokel-Walker | 20 December 2022
...For hundreds of thousands of scientists, Twitter is a sounding board, megaphone and common room: a place to broadcast research findings, debate issues in academia and interact with people who they wouldn’t normally meet up with.
...Since the site’s founding in 2006, Twitter executives have often asserted that it aims to be nothing less than a ‘public town square’ of communication; it now claims almost 250 million daily users. At that scale, abuse, misinformation and bots have been ever-present, but for many researchers, the advantages of rapid, widespread communication to each other and an engaged public outweighed these problems.
...A 2014 Nature survey found that 13% of researchers used Twitter regularly
... major role in science communication...about one-third of all the scientific literature gets tweeted...during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, more than half of all journal articles on COVID-19 published up to April 2021 were mentioned at least once on Twitter
...for many scientists, Twitter has become an essential tool for collaboration and discovery — a source of real-time conversations around research papers, conference talks and wider topics in academia. Papers now zip around scientific communities faster thanks to Twitter, says Johann Unger, a linguist at Lancaster University, UK, who notes that extra information is also shared in direct private messages through the site. And its limit on tweet length — currently 280 characters — has pushed academics into keeping their commentary pithy, he adds.
The social platform has flattened hierarchies, throwing people into conversations regardless of geography, seniority or specialism....
It has also given an influential voice to people who might otherwise be excluded, and has helped to broker support networks for those who don’t see people like them in their own departments...Movements united by hashtags — from #IAmAScientistBecause to #BlackInTheIvory — have often seen Twitter acting as a rallying point for discussing key problems
... a hotbed for researchers studying social reactions to world events — in particular, how information spreads on the network
...insults, abuse...oversimplified information, posted alarmist analyses or shared outright disinformation...the pandemic showed how users segregate to follow mostly those with similar views...During the pandemic, it gave the public more transparency about the uncertain process of science progressing in real time
...Researchers leaving the platform will probably try to find a similar social-media replacement, says (Oded Rechavi, who works on transgenerational inheritance at Tel Aviv University in Israel). “I imagine that if Twitter stops being the place for scientists to be, then it’ll be replaced by something else,” he says. “I just can’t imagine going back to being disconnected from the rest of the science world.”
...Mastodon, the open-source alternative to Twitter...users can post longer messages, but the dynamics of the platform deliberately make it harder to discover or encounter messages from users one doesn’t directly follow, making communities more siloed and fragmented. (User numbers are still tiny compared with Twitter, estimated at some 2.5 million in early December.)
...“A social network is always only successful if it’s got enough people, and if it’s got the right people,” says (Stefanie Haustein at the University of Ottawa in Canada, who has studied the impact of Twitter on scientific communication). “It requires millions of people to move from one place to the other.” Even if that happens, she says, you need to rebuild the same networks and structures that existed on Twitter — which is proving hard because of the way that control of Mastodon is distributed across servers, making it difficult for those who were on Twitter to reconnect...
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04506-6
