Spam reporting thread #77
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1lilithcat
PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php NOTE: Because all profile comments are now private, others cannot tell that you have left a message, so please include that information when you post in this thread.
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Spam
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php NOTE: Because all profile comments are now private, others cannot tell that you have left a message, so please include that information when you post in this thread.
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Spam
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
32wonderY
Okay, I flagged the profile too soon, and left these works in limbo. I am chastened and will follow the correct steps in the future.
These had reviews that went on and on about the product and marketing links..
http://www.librarything.com/work/29383077
http://www.librarything.com/work/29383079
http://www.librarything.com/work/29383083
These had reviews that went on and on about the product and marketing links..
http://www.librarything.com/work/29383077
http://www.librarything.com/work/29383079
http://www.librarything.com/work/29383083
6lilithcat
Author spam:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/346130
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Mark_Budman (Message left)
(Honestly, you'd think someone who has been a member since 2015 would know better. On the other hand, considering that the only books he's catalogued are his own, maybe not.)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/346130
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Mark_Budman (Message left)
(Honestly, you'd think someone who has been a member since 2015 would know better. On the other hand, considering that the only books he's catalogued are his own, maybe not.)
7norabelle414
>6 lilithcat: They started that account in 2015 but that doesn't mean they spent more than 5 minutes here. And it actually looks like they started even earlier than that: https://www.librarything.com/profile/MarkBudman
9gilroy
>6 lilithcat: >7 norabelle414: The copy on both those accounts reads like a PR rep created the accounts. Probably two different reps.
11karenb
Noting that I am leaving a message for negrazar, a new LT member who tried to promote The Power of the Powerless, now translated into Persian. The Talk spam filter caught the post (which contained two commercial links), so it didn't go public.
Anyone care to suggest where one goes to discuss such a work on LT? I stay away from political discussions here, and no recent groups jumped out at me.
Anyone care to suggest where one goes to discuss such a work on LT? I stay away from political discussions here, and no recent groups jumped out at me.
12gilroy
>11 karenb: Pro & Con would be the only place they could discuss such a book
13karenb
>12 gilroy: Thank you.
15lilithcat
>11 karenb:
There's the Reading Globally group: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/1244/Reading-Globally, and I suppose they could try to revive the Czech books group: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/1730/Czech-books
There's the Reading Globally group: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/1244/Reading-Globally, and I suppose they could try to revive the Czech books group: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/1730/Czech-books
16MarthaJeanne
But whatever the group: >14 2wonderY: still stands.
172wonderY
https://www.librarything.com/topic/346439#7997985
Author
https://www.librarything.com/profile/EoghanMag
I left a profile note.
Author
https://www.librarything.com/profile/EoghanMag
I left a profile note.
18norabelle414
>17 2wonderY: Well that escalated quickly
192wonderY
>18 norabelle414: Yes. Twenty minutes before his post in Talk, he had messaged me asking respectfully what exactly he had done wrong. I checked the links I’d sent him and they would have answered his questions in full. So not only is he showing his true colors, he also doesn’t really want to know how to operate successfully here.
20norabelle414
>19 2wonderY: The part where we're all hypocrites because any mention of any book is free advertising is really making me chuckle.
22gilroy
>21 lilithcat: Same
23Nevov
Spam in reviews on these profiles:
https://www.librarything.com/reviews/AntwanGiroux
https://www.librarything.com/reviews/LynetteWatson
https://www.librarything.com/reviews/AntwanGiroux
https://www.librarything.com/reviews/LynetteWatson
24norabelle414
>23 Nevov: All of the works and reviews are already flagged, right? So all we need to do is flag the profiles?
25Nevov
Some reviews aren't disappeared last I looked, if your flags have made the difference, thanks!
Edit: all reviews look to have hit the threshold, so just the profiles left now, I believe.
Edit: all reviews look to have hit the threshold, so just the profiles left now, I believe.
26norabelle414
>25 Nevov: ok yes, sorry. All of the AntwanGiroux reviews have been hidden and the first page of Lynette Watson, but there are still many (many, many) more that need to be flagged beyond the first page.
28karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/27784486/reviews/212686817
(work already up for voting)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/ArelyFarrell
(work already up for voting)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/ArelyFarrell
29MarthaJeanne
>28 karenb: All gone.
30Nevov
Spam in reviews on these two profiles:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/LynetteWatson (all reviews already hidden)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/MaximCooley (all reviews already hidden)
So just the profiles remain to flag.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/LynetteWatson (all reviews already hidden)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/MaximCooley (all reviews already hidden)
So just the profiles remain to flag.
31norabelle414
>30 Nevov: I found one work that still needs to be flagged: https://www.librarything.com/work/29476706
32karenb
>30 Nevov: Lynette Watson's profile remains. I wonder if it's time to contact staff?
33Nevov
>31 norabelle414: Well done for spotting that! It's over the threshold now.
>32 karenb: Will make a report.
Thanks all.
>32 karenb: Will make a report.
Thanks all.
34Nevov
Profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Hitbullseye1
(reviews and works already have enough flags)
(reviews and works already have enough flags)
35gilroy
https://www.librarything.com/topic/346571
Author Spam
Profile (do not flag) https://www.librarything.com/profile/WriterNancy
(Messages are disabled for her, so no message left)
Author Spam
Profile (do not flag) https://www.librarything.com/profile/WriterNancy
(Messages are disabled for her, so no message left)
36lilithcat
>35 gilroy:
(Messages are disabled for her, so no message left)
No, they're not! I've left a message.
(Messages are disabled for her, so no message left)
No, they're not! I've left a message.
37gilroy
>36 lilithcat: Going back, I see I was looking in the wrong spot. Thank you for catching that.
38MarthaJeanne
>35 gilroy: Topic gone now. (Being fourth always feels so satisfying.)
39Nevov
Another couple of profiles to flag (spam works and reviews – all of which are already gone now, just the profiles remain):
https://www.librarything.com/profile/pickmoniya
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Trapping
https://www.librarything.com/profile/pickmoniya
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Trapping
40MarthaJeanne
Author spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/307932#8010004
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/AnneJordan1)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/307932#8010004
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/AnneJordan1)
43karenb
>42 2wonderY: Good catch; thank you
47karenb
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/dtptallclock
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/26448923/199499760
https://www.librarything.com/work/26448919/199499751
https://www.librarything.com/work/26448915/199499742
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/dtptallclocks
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/29502160/231283491
https://www.librarything.com/work/29502159/231283479
https://www.librarything.com/work/29502156/231283458
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/dutchtimepieces
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938766/185157187
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938755/185157165
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938743/185157140
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938705/185157017
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/26448923/199499760
https://www.librarything.com/work/26448919/199499751
https://www.librarything.com/work/26448915/199499742
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/dtptallclocks
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/29502160/231283491
https://www.librarything.com/work/29502159/231283479
https://www.librarything.com/work/29502156/231283458
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/dutchtimepieces
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938766/185157187
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938755/185157165
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938743/185157140
https://www.librarything.com/work/24938705/185157017
49norabelle414
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/347034
Do not flag: https://www.librarything.com/profile/KarenDeCesareDoll (I sent a message)
ETA: the author sent me a thank you and apology back, always nice to see that
Do not flag: https://www.librarything.com/profile/KarenDeCesareDoll (I sent a message)
ETA: the author sent me a thank you and apology back, always nice to see that
50karenb
A new user is vandalizing tons of CK: 6 pages' worth in a few hours:
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?page=5&q=lollyplop09...
https://www.librarything.com/profile/lollyplop0987
ETA: Gone! Whew. I already emailed staff, but it's a holiday Saturday night.
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?page=5&q=lollyplop09...
https://www.librarything.com/profile/lollyplop0987
ETA: Gone! Whew. I already emailed staff, but it's a holiday Saturday night.
51karenb
New one, looks like:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jokersgrimace9112
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jokersgrimace9112
53karenb
The pattern: change a lot of Nationality fields to UK for various pop culture folks. Then delete all info for women and nonbinary and GNC and trans folks.
55karenb
This has been going on for a few days:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/lilybeth78
https://www.librarything.com/profile/pepsilol9012
https://www.librarything.com/profile/lilybeth78
https://www.librarything.com/profile/pepsilol9012
56karenb
They're going after people with nonstandard gender labels, replacing them with BS and changing/adding nationality of Nigeria. Please keep an eye on the Zeitgeist CK Changelog? Thanks.
57Michael.Rimmer
>55 karenb: I just found two non-binary authors I read last year have had their profiles vandalised by lilybeth78. I note their account has, thankfully, been suspended. I'll try to repopulate the author profiles and see if I can identity other author profiles in my library that have been attacked.
58MarthaJeanne
I undid some of the damage on some of my authors, but it's hard finding them all.
59norabelle414
Here are all the changelogs in one place for convenience:
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=lollyplop0987&f=us...
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=jokersgrimace9112&... DONE
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=NURKED90&f=usernam... DONE
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=lolipops90&f=usern...
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=lilybeth78&f=usern...
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=pepsilol9012&f=use... DONE
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=lollyplop0987&f=us...
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=lolipops90&f=usern...
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=lilybeth78&f=usern...
61Michael.Rimmer
>60 gilroy: Possibly, as the two (that I'm aware of) trolls who have vandalised the author data have removed everything on some profiles, such as dates of birth and birthplaces, as well as having deleted gender or misgendered the author. Re-inputting that information from other sources, such as author websites and Wikipedia, can be time-consuming.
62norabelle414
>61 Michael.Rimmer: All of the old information can be found by looking at the CK history for that author, no outside sources needed.
We can certainly ask staff to revert all the changes but it will probably be a few days due to the holiday
We can certainly ask staff to revert all the changes but it will probably be a few days due to the holiday
64norabelle414
The three least-prolific defacers in >59 norabelle414: have been fixed. The other three have way more edits.
65MarthaJeanne
Another member is changing n/a to group. I changed the ones in my library back.
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=Dwaz&f=username
https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/search.php?q=Dwaz&f=username
66krazy4katz
>21 lilithcat: Hi lilithcat. Just saw this. The reason I replied to his post was that messages are now private, so I couldn't tell if anyone had given him the information he would need to behave correctly. If I had known that 2wonderY had already sent him a message, I would not have responded and it probably wouldn't have escalated. Sorry. k4k
67Michael.Rimmer
>62 norabelle414: Hi, Norabelle - I did check the history files as I'd expected to find the original data there, but that information wasn't visible to me - it just states it's been deleted or has been changed to a new value 🤷
68gilroy
>67 Michael.Rimmer: You need to click on the All button instead of just looking at the Active information, which is the default when looking at the history.
69karenb
>65 MarthaJeanne: They're a regular member helping to clean up. I suspect they're unfamiliar with some conventions and don't know how to to see the CK history for a page.
70Michael.Rimmer
>68 gilroy: Ah, excellent! Thanks for the tip 😊
71kristilabrie
Almost a year ago, we had a member mass-removing works from valid Series on LT, and let me be the first to say it was such a "fun" project to work on restoring his edits!
It was just reported to us that we have another member doing the same: https://www.librarything.com/nseries/userhistory/2762489. I would appreciate any help members might want to offer to clean the bad edits up! (I've already messaged the member directly to stop, and also explaining how Series are used/edited on the site.) Thanks in advance for any help offered.
It was just reported to us that we have another member doing the same: https://www.librarything.com/nseries/userhistory/2762489. I would appreciate any help members might want to offer to clean the bad edits up! (I've already messaged the member directly to stop, and also explaining how Series are used/edited on the site.) Thanks in advance for any help offered.
72MarthaJeanne
Author/publisher spam https://www.librarything.com/topic/347369#n8023781
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/sunflowerpublishing)
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/sunflowerpublishing)
75MarthaJeanne
Author spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347500#n8028164
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347499#n8028163
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/JasonKalinowski)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347500#n8028164
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347499#n8028163
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/JasonKalinowski)
76gilroy
>75 MarthaJeanne: I feel like that's not the first time he's been dinged...
ETA: Yup, he was warned when he arrived in July:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343032#7890200
ETA: Yup, he was warned when he arrived in July:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343032#7890200
77MarthaJeanne
>76 gilroy: Some people are not teachable.
78gilroy
He's posted two more:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347501
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347502
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347501
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347502
79lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/347573
https://www.librarything.com/profile/ABlueBunny (message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/ABlueBunny (message left)
80gilroy
I miss the old message system where you could see if an older author had been warned before or not.
82krazy4katz
>80 gilroy: I agree too.
83MarthaJeanne
Me, too.
86SandraArdnas
author spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/115609#8036820
https://www.librarything.com/profile/VivianDennis
If someone has a copy/paste message ready, please leave a message to the author. I just flagged the post
https://www.librarything.com/topic/115609#8036820
https://www.librarything.com/profile/VivianDennis
If someone has a copy/paste message ready, please leave a message to the author. I just flagged the post
87MarthaJeanne
>86 SandraArdnas: She has also used someone else's review as her member review.
https://www.librarything.com/work/29626389/reviews/233073843
https://www.librarything.com/work/29626389/reviews/233073843
88lilithcat
>86 SandraArdnas:
I knew that name was familiar.
She's been warned before, by me: https://www.librarything.com/topic/346048#8026778
I knew that name was familiar.
She's been warned before, by me: https://www.librarything.com/topic/346048#8026778
89SandraArdnas
>88 lilithcat: So what to do now, report to kristie?
90karenb
>89 SandraArdnas: Yes: multiple issues, over time.
912wonderY
Huh. My flagging powers have waned
https://www.librarything.com/profile/oxbeta
https://www.librarything.com/profile/zowintoday
https://www.librarything.com/profile/oxbeta
https://www.librarything.com/profile/zowintoday
93karenb
Spam work created by a spam account that is now gone, apparently:
https://www.librarything.com/work/28249370
https://www.librarything.com/work/28249370
105karenb
>94 2wonderY: - 104
I've been learning new stuff to search for this morning. Thanks.
I've been learning new stuff to search for this morning. Thanks.
106lilithcat
I wonder if this is related to the server problem reported elsewhere:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347833
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347826
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347833
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347826
107kristilabrie
>94 2wonderY: Okay, I think this issue should be resolved as of about 10:30am ET this morning. Please let me know if you're still having any trouble seeing spam profiles go away.
1082wonderY
>107 kristilabrie: All seems well again. Thanks!
>105 karenb: Drat! I was coming close to passing you.
>105 karenb: Drat! I was coming close to passing you.
109karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/13593366/reviews/94733899
(flag the work later)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/rohexecutive
(flag the work later)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/rohexecutive
111lilithcat
Lots of spam from this author:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/paulRB (I've left a message)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347905
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347904
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347903
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347902
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347901
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347900
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347899
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347898
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347897
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347895
https://www.librarything.com/profile/paulRB (I've left a message)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347905
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347904
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347903
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347902
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347901
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347900
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347899
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347898
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347897
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347895
1142wonderY
>113 lilithcat: There’s one in the Authors group, but I left it be.
115lilithcat
>114 2wonderY:
The one in Hobnob? I think it's acceptable there. "How Authors Can Use Librarything" says, "Join the Hobnob with Authors group and discuss your work with interested members", and they do have specific promotional threads.
I generally leave posts in that group alone.
The one in Hobnob? I think it's acceptable there. "How Authors Can Use Librarything" says, "Join the Hobnob with Authors group and discuss your work with interested members", and they do have specific promotional threads.
I generally leave posts in that group alone.
116MarthaJeanne
See member recommendations on Red winter Journey by 'Anonymous user'.
1172wonderY
>116 MarthaJeanne: double check that touchstone.
118MarthaJeanne
>117 2wonderY: Whoops! Not only didn't check, but had the title wrong.
119lilithcat
>116 MarthaJeanne:
I've never seen "anonymous user" before. How does that happen?
Seems he's trying to avoid the rule that "you are expected to make good-faith, disinterested recommendations . . . Recommending your own book is strictly forbidden."
I've never seen "anonymous user" before. How does that happen?
Seems he's trying to avoid the rule that "you are expected to make good-faith, disinterested recommendations . . . Recommending your own book is strictly forbidden."
1202wonderY
>119 lilithcat: Since it doesn’t show up on his profile, there is no telling how many other places (works) he is recommending his own titles.
121norabelle414
>119 lilithcat: Once you get almost to the end of adding a member recommendation, there's a box that says "show my member name" which is checked by default but can be unchecked.
122lilithcat
>121 norabelle414:
Thanks, I never noticed that. I'm not sure I like it; as in this case, it's an easy way for an author to get around the rule against recommending one's own books.
Thanks, I never noticed that. I'm not sure I like it; as in this case, it's an easy way for an author to get around the rule against recommending one's own books.
123norabelle414
>122 lilithcat: Yeah I was thinking of making an RSI to remove it... is there some important use-case that I'm not thinking of? Maybe a user with a private library who does not want people to know they have an interest in a particular work (e.g. LGBTQ+ subjects)? But "don't make a recommendation" hardly seems like a high price to pay for remaining private.
1242wonderY
>119 lilithcat: Is there a mechanism for flagging or removing this type of recommendation? It’s against the site rules; there should be.
126rybie2
Could someone try to flag this account, please? No matter how much I decrease the font size on the page, I can't get to the "Flag" button!
https://www.librarything.com/profile/nhacaiwinbet
https://www.librarything.com/profile/nhacaiwinbet
1272wonderY
>126 rybie2: done
128MarthaJeanne
>126 rybie2: done.
130lesmel
>126 rybie2: Instead of increase/decreasing the font, shrink your browser window to force the mobile version and the flag button will show up at the bottom of the profile. At least, that's how I got to the flag button a few minutes ago.
131MarthaJeanne
Gone now.
132gilroy
Author Spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/49799#8045108
https://www.librarything.com/profile/ryschka (left message)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/49799#8045108
https://www.librarything.com/profile/ryschka (left message)
134lilithcat
Yet more author spam:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347937
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347936
https://www.librarything.com/profile/laurellox (message left).
Interesting - notice the "friend" who's on her "Interesting Libraries" list. And vice versa.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347937
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347936
https://www.librarything.com/profile/laurellox (message left).
Interesting - notice the "friend" who's on her "Interesting Libraries" list. And vice versa.
137rybie2
>130 lesmel: Thanks for the tip!
138MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/topic/347969#n8046541
https://www.librarything.com/profile/banti21
Whoever wrote this spam does not have good English skills. 'By enrolling in this course, you can prevent your organization from modern cybersecurity attacks.' I guess they aren't using AI yet.
Gone.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/banti21
Whoever wrote this spam does not have good English skills. 'By enrolling in this course, you can prevent your organization from modern cybersecurity attacks.' I guess they aren't using AI yet.
Gone.
140elonmusklover231 

Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.
141elonmusklover231 

Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.
142ELONMUSK2333332
Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.
144torontoc
Flogging own book on group" 75 Books read- just joined today. Do we warn this person? or leave a message where to talk about book?
https://www.librarything.com/profile/MNamaz
https://www.librarything.com/profile/MNamaz
145lilithcat
>144 torontoc:
Flag the post, and leave the poster a profile comment with a link to "How Authors can use LibraryThing".
Please link to the post so we can flag it.
Looks like he's also posted elsewhere:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/348033
Flag the post, and leave the poster a profile comment with a link to "How Authors can use LibraryThing".
Please link to the post so we can flag it.
Looks like he's also posted elsewhere:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/348033
146torontoc
>145 lilithcat: comment posted!
149MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/topic/348207#n8055918
Author https://www.librarything.com/profile/BeccaNelson who gives herself a 5* review.
Gone.
Author https://www.librarything.com/profile/BeccaNelson who gives herself a 5* review.
Gone.
151MarthaJeanne
>150 lilithcat: No. If Tim wants us to leave messages he would leave them visible.
154karenb
https://www.librarything.com/topic/348220
new author; message left
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jasminewa31
new author; message left
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jasminewa31
156MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/profile/eli.malfoy is the one who messed up the CK.
ETA This seems to have been a one time thing. All book entries and the bad CK are all from 2021-12-16.
ETA This seems to have been a one time thing. All book entries and the bad CK are all from 2021-12-16.
157norabelle414
>155 supersidvicious: CK fixed. I can't believe it looked like that for over a year!
158gilroy
>156 MarthaJeanne: Bored teenager again, maybe?
159lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/348267
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Howard_Kaplan (message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Howard_Kaplan (message left)
160lilithcat
Horny girls:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/348280
Flag the profile, too: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Emilyxxx (note: member photo is NSFW)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/348280
Flag the profile, too: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Emilyxxx (note: member photo is NSFW)
161MarthaJeanne
Oh, Yuck! I really don't need to see that stuff.
162supersidvicious
>157 norabelle414: thank you
163gilroy
>160 lilithcat: Thread is gone but profile remains
164MarthaJeanne
>163 gilroy: Maybe >160 lilithcat:?
I sent kristilabrie a message, but it is Saturday. A few more flags can't hurt. It would be good to get rid of that.
I sent kristilabrie a message, but it is Saturday. A few more flags can't hurt. It would be good to get rid of that.
165lilithcat
>163 gilroy:
I flagged several spam profiles yesterday that are still there. There seems to be a lag in getting rid of them.
I flagged several spam profiles yesterday that are still there. There seems to be a lag in getting rid of them.
166gilroy
>164 MarthaJeanne: D'oh, right. I've gone back and fixed it now.
167norabelle414
I can't believe that account is still active! How many flags does it take??
1682wonderY
Flagging profiles has stalled since yesterday. As happened a week or two ago, only staff will be able to unclog it. Yeah, I’m gritting my teeth as well.
169lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/348317
https://www.librarything.com/profile/anonarnune20141 (Message left)
(Note that her author profile pic has also been flagged due to the extensive promotional material entered in place of the credit/copyright info: https://www.librarything.com/pic/9663110)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/anonarnune20141 (Message left)
(Note that her author profile pic has also been flagged due to the extensive promotional material entered in place of the credit/copyright info: https://www.librarything.com/pic/9663110)
170norabelle414
>160 lilithcat: gone (finally)
1712wonderY
So are all of the profiles I flagged over the weekend.
Here’s one though
https://www.librarything.com/profile/stripliveus
Here’s one though
https://www.librarything.com/profile/stripliveus
1722wonderY
Frustrating that nothing since has disappeared. I hope we’re not going to periodic flush mode. I might quit hunting.
1742wonderY
I messaged Kristie this morning. I’ve flagged about 40 commercial profiles since yesterday morning and they are still present.
176lilithcat
>175 2wonderY:
Those three are still there, but a slew that I flagged yesterday are gone.
I do enjoy Scammell Solicitors, though.
Those three are still there, but a slew that I flagged yesterday are gone.
I do enjoy Scammell Solicitors, though.
1772wonderY
From Kristie:
Thanks for the note, and yes: our crons (the automatic processes that remove flagged profiles etc.) are still off, at the moment, so I'm removing accounts when I come in in the mornings. Please continue flagging, we're expecting them to be back on sometime today!
Thanks for the note, and yes: our crons (the automatic processes that remove flagged profiles etc.) are still off, at the moment, so I'm removing accounts when I come in in the mornings. Please continue flagging, we're expecting them to be back on sometime today!
179norabelle414
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/346742#8063940
Do not flag (I left a message): https://www.librarything.com/profile/me_captainai
Do not flag (I left a message): https://www.librarything.com/profile/me_captainai
180lilithcat
>179 norabelle414:
And, of course, he left a 5-star review of his own book (which was improperly flagged).
And, of course, he left a 5-star review of his own book (which was improperly flagged).
1822wonderY
Just a note. I look at new profiles daily for those promoting commercial ventures. Auto title loans and casinos predominate.
I keep track of presumably innocent looking profiles without books cataloged. I’m seeing multiples that are edited days later to add links. This is happening only for casino links, so far.
I keep track of presumably innocent looking profiles without books cataloged. I’m seeing multiples that are edited days later to add links. This is happening only for casino links, so far.
1832wonderY
And sometimes the Spam content is on the gallery pages:
Hi, I am looking for an understanding man, a friend for secret meetings and communication, the realization of fantasies. I am a petite transsexual ##### I have little experience, but a lot of desires! Mutual sympathy, cleanliness, adequacy, openness are important to me. If you are polite and serious, I am waiting for you! I do not specify my phone number and personal contacts here, too much risk! I check my incoming messages every day only on www….
Gone now.
Hi, I am looking for an understanding man, a friend for secret meetings and communication, the realization of fantasies. I am a petite transsexual ##### I have little experience, but a lot of desires! Mutual sympathy, cleanliness, adequacy, openness are important to me. If you are polite and serious, I am waiting for you! I do not specify my phone number and personal contacts here, too much risk! I check my incoming messages every day only on www….
Gone now.
185anglemark
>184 anglemark: That was fast.
186BraydenEarl 

Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.
190MarthaJeanne
>189 2wonderY: Also posted in hobnob. https://www.librarything.com/topic/187026#8085087 so I left a message there.
193MarthaJeanne
>192 gilroy: Note that one is even 43 pages long! (The others are shorter.)
For future reference, not for flagging at this time: https://www.librarything.com/profile/ajcameron_author
For future reference, not for flagging at this time: https://www.librarything.com/profile/ajcameron_author
194amanda4242
Author spam. I've left a message.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349128
https://www.librarything.com/profile/DaniellePataky
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349128
https://www.librarything.com/profile/DaniellePataky
196MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349198#n8089166
Author spam (https://www.librarything.com/profile/SaulGolubcow)
Author spam (https://www.librarything.com/profile/SaulGolubcow)
1972wonderY
https://www.librarything.com/profile/SaulGolubcow
Did you message the author?
Oh never mind. I didn’t see that it was you MarthaJeanne. Of course you did.
Did you message the author?
Oh never mind. I didn’t see that it was you MarthaJeanne. Of course you did.
198lilithcat
>195 clamairy:
It would be helpful if, when you post about a spam topic, you also provided a link to the poster's profile, and, if it's an author, whether you left a message directing him to the "How Authors Can Use LibraryThing" page.
It would be helpful if, when you post about a spam topic, you also provided a link to the poster's profile, and, if it's an author, whether you left a message directing him to the "How Authors Can Use LibraryThing" page.
199MarthaJeanne
No, I did not.
200lilithcat
>196 MarthaJeanne:
Another from him: https://www.librarything.com/topic/349214
I did leave a message.
Another from him: https://www.librarything.com/topic/349214
I did leave a message.
202lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/349353
https://www.librarything.com/profile/vibemanlove (Message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/vibemanlove (Message left)
205gilroy
>203 anglemark: >204 lilithcat: Profiled got flagged into oblivion... :(
206lilithcat
>205 gilroy:
Ugh. I wish people wouldn't flag authors.
A reminder: -- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Ugh. I wish people wouldn't flag authors.
A reminder: -- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
208MarthaJeanne
However, people like >207 poropic1: (work-from-home opportunity) can and should be flagged.
209gilroy
>206 lilithcat: Honestly, I think if people don't see some note attached to the profile link (left message, do not flag, etc) that they assume a link in this thread means flag it. Especially when it's just a block of links with no real separator to show the difference between the threads and the profile.
Happens some in the Is This Spam thread too. Post a link for questioning and people flag the profile.
Happens some in the Is This Spam thread too. Post a link for questioning and people flag the profile.
211gilroy
>210 lilithcat: Fully agree
212norabelle414
Maybe it would be worth having separate threads for "Commercial Spam" and "Teachable Moments"? Or maybe that would be too confusing.
213anglemark
>206 lilithcat: This particular case was egregious, the guide in question was some kind of overblown self-help guide IIRC and the post full of marketing hype, so I can understand why the author was flagged even though it's against the guidelines.
2182wonderY
Author spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349783#8106622
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jedy94
Could someone else leave a profile note? I’m headed out the door.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349783#8106622
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jedy94
Could someone else leave a profile note? I’m headed out the door.
219gilroy
Their profile says they've only been here since March 23, but I've been to that profile before. I swear we've flagged them as spam before too, but can't find the post.
Also, this thread was today, same person: https://www.librarything.com/topic/349782
Found it: Original post was March 25, same BS already flagged.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349659
I guess I wasn't sure back then, but I am now.
Also, this thread was today, same person: https://www.librarything.com/topic/349782
Found it: Original post was March 25, same BS already flagged.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349659
I guess I wasn't sure back then, but I am now.
2202wonderY
Now he wants to friend me?
LibraryThing member jedy94 wants to be your friend on LibraryThing. Click to accept this invitation
To decline, do nothing or delete this message. You can also edit your profile to disallow this feature, or block this member.
LibraryThing member jedy94 wants to be your friend on LibraryThing. Click to accept this invitation
To decline, do nothing or delete this message. You can also edit your profile to disallow this feature, or block this member.
221gilroy
>220 2wonderY: Weird. I sent a profile note.
222karenb
A bunch of reviews: works already up for votes
https://www.librarything.com/work/27858136/reviews/213415211
https://www.librarything.com/work/28912267/reviews/225357220
https://www.librarything.com/work/28912269/reviews/225357302
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724967/reviews/223616719
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724965/reviews/223616698
https://www.librarything.com/work/29699983/reviews/233940667
https://www.librarything.com/work/29699981/reviews/233940663
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724968/reviews/223616726
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724964/reviews/223616686
https://www.librarything.com/work/27858136/reviews/213415211
https://www.librarything.com/work/28912267/reviews/225357220
https://www.librarything.com/work/28912269/reviews/225357302
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724967/reviews/223616719
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724965/reviews/223616698
https://www.librarything.com/work/29699983/reviews/233940667
https://www.librarything.com/work/29699981/reviews/233940663
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724968/reviews/223616726
https://www.librarything.com/work/28724964/reviews/223616686
223gilroy
>222 karenb: Where's the profile for all these?
224karenb
>223 gilroy: Already gone.
226karenb
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/26295794/198188100
https://www.librarything.com/work/26295774/198187890
https://www.librarything.com/work/26295792/198188084
user:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/dexdiggerhire
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/26317378/198389990
https://www.librarything.com/work/26317351/198389901
https://www.librarything.com/work/26317336/198389828
user:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/dexminidigger
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/29839066/235530146
https://www.librarything.com/work/29839072/235530160
user:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/dobsontrenchdigger
https://www.librarything.com/work/26295794/198188100
https://www.librarything.com/work/26295774/198187890
https://www.librarything.com/work/26295792/198188084
user:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/dexdiggerhire
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/26317378/198389990
https://www.librarything.com/work/26317351/198389901
https://www.librarything.com/work/26317336/198389828
user:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/dexminidigger
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/29839066/235530146
https://www.librarything.com/work/29839072/235530160
user:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/dobsontrenchdigger
227amanda4242
Author spam. I've left a message.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349983#n8113698
https://www.librarything.com/profile/LightBoy (do not flag profile)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/349983#n8113698
https://www.librarything.com/profile/LightBoy (do not flag profile)
228gilroy
Author Spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/223034#5670277
(This is several years old, so not going to bother messaging profile since it feels like a drive by author.)
Profile (Do Not Flag) https://www.librarything.com/profile/DiegoRod
https://www.librarything.com/topic/223034#5670277
(This is several years old, so not going to bother messaging profile since it feels like a drive by author.)
Profile (Do Not Flag) https://www.librarything.com/profile/DiegoRod
229Nevov
>228 gilroy:
They did the same in a different topic too:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/227714#5670282
They did the same in a different topic too:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/227714#5670282
230lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/350126 (Note that group is "join to post", so you'll have to join to flag, and then leave the group).
https://www.librarything.com/profile/clixtasy (Message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/clixtasy (Message left)
232MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/topic/350299
Same message in Book talk already gone.
Author https://www.librarything.com/profile/tiffanylinton29 trying to sell her colouring book.
Same message in Book talk already gone.
Author https://www.librarything.com/profile/tiffanylinton29 trying to sell her colouring book.
233lilithcat
>232 MarthaJeanne:
Did you leave a message? If not, I will, but I don't want her to have multiple messages.
Did you leave a message? If not, I will, but I don't want her to have multiple messages.
234MarthaJeanne
No, I didn't.
236norabelle414
Overzealous author: https://www.librarything.com/topic/350336
Do not flag (I left a message): https://www.librarything.com/profile/azharsario
Do not flag (I left a message): https://www.librarything.com/profile/azharsario
238norabelle414
>236 norabelle414: For the record they sent me a very nice message in response. Teachable moments do work sometimes!
239lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/350350
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Outfox_Stories (message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Outfox_Stories (message left)
240norabelle414
Overzealous author: https://www.librarything.com/topic/350365
Do not flag (I left a message): https://www.librarything.com/profile/alexandriasnowdon
Do not flag (I left a message): https://www.librarything.com/profile/alexandriasnowdon
242karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28747524/reviews/223871648
(flag the work & user after the review is gone)
(flag the work & user after the review is gone)
2462wonderY
https://www.librarything.com/topic/350641
https://www.librarything.com/profile/RobinCox
My note to the new member:
“Marketing books on this site is considered Spam. You need to remove the last line of your post where you have reviewed the book, or it will get flagged into oblivion.”
The last line:
“Available in bookstores and online.”
https://www.librarything.com/profile/RobinCox
My note to the new member:
“Marketing books on this site is considered Spam. You need to remove the last line of your post where you have reviewed the book, or it will get flagged into oblivion.”
The last line:
“Available in bookstores and online.”
247MarthaJeanne
Most of that 'review' is a quote from the book description you can see on Amazon.
248karenb
reviews:
https://www.librarything.com/work/29459833/reviews/230800684
https://www.librarything.com/work/29459826/reviews/230800549
https://www.librarything.com/work/28184094/reviews/216681753
https://www.librarything.com/work/28184094/reviews/230800167
Please do not flag the user or works yet. The reviews must go away, first.
https://www.librarything.com/work/29459833/reviews/230800684
https://www.librarything.com/work/29459826/reviews/230800549
https://www.librarything.com/work/28184094/reviews/216681753
https://www.librarything.com/work/28184094/reviews/230800167
Please do not flag the user or works yet. The reviews must go away, first.
Tämä viestiketju jatkuu täällä: Spam reporting thread #78.