Tag Names with an Ampersand (&) Malfunctioning

A bug has been reported, in which tags that contain an ampersand fail, and return zero books. I have confirmed this with one tag in my own library, and a number of tags from other members' libraries.

Black Bears & Blueberries:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=Black%2BBears%2B%252...

Examples from other libraries:

Jack & the Beanstalk:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/ChildrensLibraryLady&tag=Jack%2B%2526%2...

Swallows & Amazons:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/kateferguson&tag=Swallows%2B%2526%2BAma...

Tommy & Tuppence:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/kateferguson&tag=Tommy%2B%2526%2BTuppen...

I will mention this to the developers, thank you.

Tags with ampersands having been causing problems off and on basically forever. In some cases in the past they've worked in some access types and not from others (search vs. clicking from the catalog vs. the tag cloud, etc.)

For me, currently:

Clicking from the tag page fails.



Searching my catalog (via the upper-right search box) works.



Clicking in the catalog fails. (same as clicking from the tag page)

It seems to be a matter of HTML encoding being different based on the situation.

>2 lorax: Same with slashes. Not sure if that's still happening though (I have replaced all of those with pipes).

>3 Nicole_VanK: Yes, this appears to be the case, and it is new, at least this time around, in my own experience. I have a number of tags with slashes, and have always been able to look at them before. Now however, they give me the same message: "no books found." Tags include:

adoption/fostering:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=adoption%252Ffosteri...

banned/suppressed books:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=banned%252Fsuppresse...

books/reading:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=books%252Freading

child/parent separation:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=child%252Fparent%2Bs...

epics/sagas:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=epics%252Fsagas

fashion/clothing:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=fashion%252Fclothing

folklore/mythology:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=folklore%252Fmytholo...

guiding/scouting:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/AbigailAdams26&tag=guiding%252Fscouting

etc.

ETA: tag names with hyphens and/or apostrophes seem fine.

I think it might possibly be because both & and / are also used in coding. But that's just a guess.

>4 AbigailAdams26: Tabs with colons (:) are also OK

>2 lorax: I think you're right.

Testing in ablachly's catalog for "9/11" tag:
1. searching "tag: 9/11" in catalog search box gives me the "Tag: 9/11" search line and the https://www.librarything.com/catalog/ablachly&deepsearch=tag%3A+9%252F11 URL, with search results.

2. clicking the "9/11" tag gives me the "Tag: 9%2F11" search line and the https://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=9%252F11&view=ablachly URL, with no search results (which is expected given the encoding).

I have also been having problems with tags including spaces. If I select a tag from Home or from my catalog, it's fine: https://www.librarything.com/catalog/Stevil2001&tag=star+trek&collection...

But if in my catalog, I switch collections, it doesn't find anything. In the case of the above example, it switches from saying Tag: star trek at the top of the page to Tag: star+trek.

>8 Stevil2001: We have a separate report for that one: https://www.librarything.com/topic/334022

>9 AnnieMod: Thanks! I poked around but evidently not very well.

>7 kristilabrie: 2. clicking the "9/11" tag gives me the "Tag: 9%2F11" search line and the https://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=9%252F11&view=ablachly URL, with no search results (which is expected given the encoding).

This happens in TinyCat as well. See: https://www.librarycat.org/lib/casvelyn/search/tag/biography%252Fmemoir?sort=tit.... That link used to work until sometime in the last month or so.

I have just noticed this is affecting tags that include a plus (+) too

>3 Nicole_VanK:
I hesitate to start changing my tags whole-sale, as I have a LOT with / in them, because in the past it did not cause any problems; however, I have had the current problem for several months now.

I have many tags with / (slashes) and they all (at least the ones I have tried) malfunction when trying to access a group of books by clicking on that tag in the Tag view. In that case, the system gives me my home page instead.

When I am in List view and click on such a tag in the Tag field, I get this message "AA-nonfiction-recipe%2FMB" and "No books found in this collection." (The / has been replaced by %2F).

For a sorting project some years ago (2011-09-18), I made a non-book record in my Collection "Bookkeeping" that has all the special symbols that appear on a regular English keyboard.
So, for the record, I do NOT have problems with tags containing these symbols when accessed from the Tag view or the List view Tag field:
~ tilde, ` accent_grave, ! exclamation, @ at, # pound sign aka hashtag, $ dollar, % percent, ^ caret aka circumflex, * asterisk, () parentheses, _ underscore, - dash aka hyphen, = equal, {} curly brackets, square brackets, | pipe, : colon, ; semicolon, ' apostrophe, . period, ? question

I DO have problems with these, although I did not heretofore:
& ampersand, + plus, / slash
From List view I got "No books found in this collection.":
%26 ampersand-sort_tag, %2B plus-DO_NOT_USE_on_Add_Books,

When I made that Bookkeeping record, I found these symbols to be unusable in tags for obvious reasons, so I did not check them again:
\ backslash, " quote, angle brackets, , comma

I noted in my record the problems with slash when it started acting up (around 2021-06, and only as the leading character of the tag, but now it has problems regardless of position in the tag).
Ampersand and plus were acting properly in tags when I made the record; I had not checked on them for a long time, until prompted by this bug thread.

The notes in my comments of that Record also include a reminder that some symbols cannot be used in titles when Adding a record, but + and = can be inserted in the Edit mode, whereas / cannot.

I hope that helps somewhat.

>13 librisissimo: Oh yeah, I'm not suggesting everybody should do that too. That's just how I managed to fix it when I ran into it a couple of years ago. It was a lot of work, and it might start malfunctioning too. So it's not a real solution.

I've changed the few tags I have with '&' to use 'and' instead. Fortunately it wasn't an onerous task - I just made sure I was in the All collections view and opened the tags view, and did a page search for '&'. Then I went to each tag and clicked on 'Edit' and fixed it.

This fixed searches for tags for:
Bunnies & Burrows
Chivalry & Sorcery
Clockwork & Chivalry
Clockwork & Cthulhu

Previously, I'd changed tags for:
Dungeons & Dragons
Lords of Gossamer & Shadow
Swords & Wizardry

However, doing this is incorrect: all of these are for specific role playing games like 'Dungeons & Dragons' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons) which explicitly use the ampersand in the title. Changing the tag to use 'and' not an ampersand invalidates any tag searches for that specific game system.

Given the dates, I suspect this is something to do with the roll-out of the LT2 redesign. Didn't the new search system get rolled out around then?

Apropos of that, I've been noticing that site searches using the word 'and' only return titles with the word 'and'. Searching for the same title but using the ampersand instead returns titles with the ampersand and the word 'and'. It looks to me that only parts of the site are parsing the and/& correctly.

For example, searching "Swords and Glory" returns 12 works/1 editions, whereas "Swords & Glory" returns 5 works/32 editions.

Can this issue get some attention by the programmers? If it's not going to be fixed in the near future, could you let us know that? It will help make the decision about whether I should follow Maddz's approach and make a bunch of changes to the tags that are not desirable but a perhaps necessary workaround, or wait until this is addressed.

>16 AdocentynLibrary: Even if it gets fixed, practice had taught me that / and & will get broken again sooner or later somewhere on the site - they have special meaning in URLs and needs escaping (and unescaping in some cases) and that gets forgotten often (and tag related screens use the tags in the URLs directly. "+" can also cause issues occasionally.

So... up to you.

PS: If you are using the apps (iOS or Android), you may want to stay away from ":" as well. There is a long standing bug there as well.

I'm glad it's not just me; at least I'm not going dolally. I tag some of my books with the publisher, some of which include ampersands: Adam & Charles Black, David & Charles etc. None of them now work, nor fairly common codes like Q&A and V&A.

Not even typing the URL in helps, e.g. https://www.librarything.com/tag/Q&A

>16 AdocentynLibrary: I've discussed this with timspalding and I've been told that the fix will take some reinventing, and there's no immediate timeline on when the developers will be able to get to that. I'd venture to say it'll be later than sooner, so if you want to start chipping away at adjusting your Tags that may be in your best interest at this time. I'm sorry I don't have a more defined timeline on this.

Gah. I've got ~130 tags with &, / and + in them. All used to work and now they're busted, and there's no way I'm spending the time to manually fix all of them. At least searching My Books for the "broken" characters still seems to work.

>15 Maddz: Yeah, I have a comic series literally titled "A+X" whose tags it wouldn't make any sense to rename.

If anyone doesn't know, you can update a tag's name by going to your library then clicking on Tags on the dropdown between "Covers" and "Style" and then on that page when you hover over a tag, there's an "Edit" link that will allow you to change the name of the tag everywhere you're using it.

>21 knerd.knitter: Which is fine but if you have a few hundred different tags to update, it is a lot of work :)

>22 AnnieMod: Still easier than changing them on every book.

OMG really? I've been using month/date tags on my books for years. That's a lot to change and frankly, seems like it should still work if it has been all along. Sure, code is weird, but this just plain sucks.



If it isn't fixable I'll tackle editing the tag in a way that will work. Any other gotchas or pitfalls that I need to watch out for?

Not my code, obviously, but it's hard to understand how something that previously worked will take some "reinventing" to fix.

>25 lorax: New architectures or upgraded (and so-called "improved") behind-the-scenes software utilities can break stuff that previously wasn't broken. Not upgrading isn't an option, as support ends for obsolete versions eventually.

Not that I'm complaining. I test software for a living, and regression testing to make sure the front end still works properly after some system change has been implemented way upstream is one of the things that pays my rent!

As above, and clicking on such a tag on tags page only takes me to home page.

I really really hope this will be fixed sooner not later. I tried backward slash instead of forward but it doesn't register. I'm not terribly willing to edit the tags; in some cases forward slash is the only appropriate punctuation & working around present punctuation marks would often makes tags either ridiculously long or less accurate.

Being able to access books via a tag when I'm trying to remember title of a book I know is tagged e.g. as 'mythology/folklore/legends' is surprisingly handy & certainly forthright.

>26 RobertDay: To some extent that's also my day job (pun intended). :-)

Related bug report, for tags with pipes: https://www.librarything.com/topic/334922

And another one for tags with slashes: https://www.librarything.com/topic/331783

So, I see that this probably won't be fixed soon, so now the question is: How best to change the tags so they won't break again or break in new ways? I posted in one of the other linked threads about my tags with slashes, but I see in this thread that the & symbol also causes issues, and also maybe the + symbol? So... Any suggestions on what to use instead? Using 'and' doesn't really sound right for some of my tags ('dogs and wolves and etc' sounds strange...) and is fairly clunky. Any similar symbol that isn't known to cause issues?

>30 Heather19: I started using a pipe (|) instead several years ago, and have had no such problems since.

I can't guarantee that solution will hold in future though.

>30 Heather19: Tags names get added to the address bar when you try to look at a tag - and because of that require escaping to work. LT is not very good at making sure that it always account for this - so they escape where they should not and do not escape where they should sometimes and things do not match properly.

So &, #, / and all types of quotes (' or ") can always cause troubles. $ can cause a LOT of problems but LT seems to usually be fine with it.
: works properly on the site but not in the apps (which I am fine with so mine use : where I want them to).
| is usually safe. ";" should also be safe.
, never works because it is used as a separator :)

I changed all my '&' to 'and'. Luckily I didn't have that many, but it's a nuisance because they relate to game systems which explicitly use the '&' not an 'and' (e.g. Dungeons & Dragons).

>32 AnnieMod: Nice and short explanation!

Book_Id and Work_Id are both numerical and it would have been wise to have authors, tags etc be numerical too. Probably too late for that.

>32 AnnieMod: But I don't understand why the damage was done only to tags. I've just searched for a title with a slash in title and it showed in result.

>35 bluepiano: Because they got their escaping there done properly.

>36 AnnieMod: Also because book and works have numbers for them so the titles themselves aren't in the URLs

>37 jjwilson61: True but there was a search problem with slashes at one point on any object. It got kinda solved -- in search anyway. But with tags, it was always a double problem - not only the search could not find them but it being fixed did not fix their issue.

>37 jjwilson61: True. There's length limits on urls too, so titles would be an extra pain.

See also https://www.librarything.com/topic/338614#n7716030

There's also an issue with spaces in multi-word tags; most times the tag is treated as a single string, but if you're using advanced search syntax, each word is treated as a single string causing the search to fail.

Solution: replace the space with an underscore.

>40 Maddz: Noted, thanks. This issue is still on my list, will continue to remind the developers about it!

It's maddening considering it worked for over a decade.

>42 Bookmarque: Thanks, I thought maybe I was imagining that it used to work.

yeah, who knew ordinary characters and punctuation marks would suddenly be scrambled and meaningless.

>41 kristilabrie: You know how you sometimes come across the term 'a gentle reminder'? That implies that there are reminders that aren't gentle. I wouldn't dream of suggesting you use one of those but on the other hand something like 'Just a gentle reminder to correct your mistake soon. Or else.' would qualify as a gentle reminder--just that it'd have a bit of extra pizzazz.

I push where I can! I know the devs have been pretty tied up with a few other things, this week, I do appreciate your patience until this can get some dev hands on it.

As an IT consultant, I always use the underscore "_" to emulate "&" as it separates the two (or more) tag values visually while not being a "special character" in many databases that can affect queries, SQL statements, and even better, CSV files where sometimes an autoimport will deliminate the columns by special characters such as / & : ; +

>47 karlfollman: I've found a magic formula so I can use Open Office Calc to convert csv files to xls on the command line. I.e. I can script the creation of xls files.

I recently noticed that my tags with slashes in them no longer brought up any books when I clicked on them. I'm now going through to edit the tags. I'm not sure when this issue came up because the tags worked when I first set them up and for many years afterwards. The problem has just come up recently.

Yeah these always worked and now they don’t and nobody cares.

>50 Bookmarque: It was a surprise when I noticed it. I didn't know the cause until someone suggested that it was the slashes so at least I got help from fellow LTers.

>49 Familyhistorian:, >50 Bookmarque: That may be a change in the underlying system architecture that's been caused by system upgrades that LT programmers have no control over. There have been big changes in software over the past couple of years, and special characters like the slash are often the source of system bugs when changes like these take place. (Disclaimer: I'm neither a programmer nor an LT employee. But I do test software in the Day Job and this sounds suspicious to me.)

>52 RobertDay: LT programmers are making the changes to the system architecture so they definitely have control over it

As a word of warning : slashes ( / ) can have pretty much the same effect. So far, I'm doing well with using pipes ( | ) though. But there are no guarantees for future behaviour.

Yeah, most of the symbols in our tags like that don't work anymore. They haven't for months. Purportedly it's the new code, but with Tim's famous love for tags and individuality (no pick list of tags is a symptom of this even though it's oft-requested), it's a bit hard to swallow that there is no way around this.

I've bumped this issue with the developers, hopefully we can get some sort of solution on this sooner than later. Thanks for your patience!

Thanks kristilabrie - I appreciate it.

>52 RobertDay: These characters cause no problems at all in a general search. And I've seen no disclaimer here that would lead me to believe that this is a glitch from the blue that's beyond control rather than a mistake that relevant people have no interest in correcting.

>58 bluepiano: This is a side effect of a core infrastructure change at the server software/hardware level. We certainly "have interest" in changing it, and are working to do so. But certain infrastructure changes have had to be performed, in specific order, for us to be able to work on it.

Looks like still a problem. I know it is in my catalog. Worked for a decade and then splat.

If you restore the ampersand
You'll prove to us you are The Man.

We just might pay in cold hard cash
If you restore the forward slash.

If you set right tag punctuation
We'll offer you heartfelt oblation.

Seriously,. It's been a long time. An inconvenience not just for a member with condensed tags but can be one too for looking at books of someone who has them, because tags are the best shortcut for delving into a person's library.

Please.

>61 bluepiano: Seconded.

Yeah seriously, this is a pain.

Bump. Reported here as well: https://www.librarything.com/topic/348011

>64 kristilabrie: Kristi, by now you must have Senior Moderator status and thus an influence over the person who should correct this, or at least enough incrimating information that he wouldn't want to come out to strongly urge allowing these punctuations again.

And if you're still only Middle-Management Moderator, I'm sure that if I organised a whip-round here you'd be provided with the cold hard cash of my doggerel under the right cirucumstances. Just think--you could buy loads of Brie made by rural French artisans or new superhero costumes for a younger family member.

(At any rate it's nice to know that a mod hasn't forgotten this topic. Cheers.)

Hah, you've got me convinced: cheese for me and costumes for my kid, done!

I will bring this up at our next all-staff meeting (next week), and see when we might be able to dive further into this. The factor of limitation, as always, is developer time and current projects that are taking priority.

Appreciate your continued patience in the meantime, we'll post any updates here. (This is a personal favorite "please fix" item, so I'm not forgetting about this!)

I have been replacing the forbidden symbols in my tags since the problem surfaced in 2021.
Since I only have a few more left (they are hard to to spot sometimes), I predict that the developers will have the problem solved immediately after I get the last ones replaced.

;)

I HAVE COPIED THIS FROM A BUG REPORT THAT WAS CLOSED: THIS REFERS TO TAGS WITH MANY KINDS OF SPECIAL CHARACTERS, NOT JUST THE AMPERSAND "&"
>>>> I HAVE ALSO EDITED THIS REPORT TO MAKE IT EVEN CLEARER!

Looking at individual books, and selecting a TAG, all those with special characters ARE WORKING

For the entry:
책거리 Chaekgeori. Our shelves 우리 책꽂이 Ourselves 우리 자신

This is a catalogue of the Weltmuseum Wien - in English and Korean and with two pictures of my library inside (!!!). I am especially thankful to LT that we can record Korean (and most other non-Latin alphabets, see entry). Here both title and table of contents are given in Korean.

Here ist the LT link
https://www.librarything.com/work/28231792/details/217353060

It has two locations, one under Weltmuseum Wien catalogues. Here both the Tag "#JL X/18-WMWI" and #JL IX/11-Korea" work when you select them Tag using "#" as first character
https://www.librarything.com/tag/%23JL+X%252F18-WMWI

as well as the "/" TAGS, for example /Korea Collection/
https://www.librarything.com/tag/%252FKorea+Collection%252F

as well as those without special characters, for example Weltmuseum Wien - Wien exhib. catalogs; folders; flyers
https://www.librarything.com/tag/Weltmuseum+Wien+-+Wien+%5Bexhib.+catalogs%3B+fo....

Résumé:
SPECIAL CHARACTERS SEEM TO WORK FINE IN THE INDIVIDUAL LT ENTRY; THEY CAN BE SELECTED AND A LIST PRODUCED.

HOWEVER, IN THE TAGS LISTING BOTH THOSE STARTING WITH "/" forward slash AND THOSE STARTING WITH "#" number sign DO NOT WORK
further explanation - go to home page, go to YOUR TAGS, select /North American Indians Collection/ (515)
you get as answer
Tag: %2FNorth American Indians Collection%2F x
No books found.

THOSE STARTING WITH "!" exclamation mark, I use only rarely DO WORK!

This all seems very strange to me - but those over 80 years old me do find the new age a bit daunting!

Greetings
JOHN D. MARSHALL

We have made some great progress with this and should have a fix out early next week! *knocking on wood*

Correction: maybe later this week, I didn't realize timspalding wanted much more extensive testing (which is a good thing). I'm working on that today.

So, is “next week” 1/2 of “two weeks”? :p

>69 kristilabrie: Good to hear. Look forward to the fix.

>69 kristilabrie: kristilabrie:

Excellent news! I hope it is for all special characters
Ampersand (&), exclamation mark (!), number sign (#), forward slash (/) etc.
Keeping my fingers crossed and pressing my thumbs (German saying meaning the same "Daumen drücken")

John in Vienna

We're in final testing of the fix. So expect a release this week or next, depending on how well the testing goes.

AS Shylock said in the Merchant of Venice:
With bated breath and whispering humbleness

Greetings, JOHN in Vienna

We found a few places where it was breaking down. So we're fixing those and we'll test again. Maybe tomorrow? If not, then we'll probably wait until Monday.

OK! This should be fixed, now, if people can take a look and let us know if we missed anything. This was a BIG one to fix, I'm personally glad it's done. :)

>76 kristilabrie: Looks good in my library. I tested my tags with !, &, and /, all worked fine.

ETA: If I go to 'next page' the trouble is back again.

Switched one of my tags from _and_ to &, and it works.

But what on earth has happened to the tag pages you access from your books? The sort order has changed…. It starts alphabetic but then goes funny. It’s not even in number of times that tag has been used.

ETA: it seems to be confined to my Role Playing Games collection which has a large number of tags starting with ‘RPG - …’

I've tested with &
It will display first page of results but calling next page or changing the view from list to covers (or vice versa) returns the error "No books found."

I have tried it with another user's library and get the same thing
Is this happening to anyone else?

>78 Maddz: Make sure you haven't changed any of the settings like down vs. across.

>80 lesmel: Those settings have got messed up. I recall this happening before.

Basically, when you change any of the sort/display settings, you get booted back ‘All collections’ even when you have a collection selected - and it still shows as selected. When you re-select the collection, the display reverts to being messed up.

Ah, I think I see what’s happened; I must have got half-way through editing my RPG tags to remove the spaces so some were RPG- and others RPG - .

My ampersands in code-like tags (V&A, Q&A) and in text tags (David & Charles, Hodder & Stoughton) all seem to be working.

Many thanks.

Well, shut my mouth. You coulda knocked me over with a feather. I'll be damned. Heavens to betsy.

Bless your pea-pickin little hearts. I sure preciate this. .

(I thought the best way to show my--sincere--gratitude would be to do so in the language of your own country. Go raibh maith agat, in the language of mine.)

>77 FAMeulstee: thanks for the report on the catalog pagination bug - this should be fixed now.

Ha - anytime a southern lady says Bless your heart, she's really saying something else.

>84 ccatalfo: Thank you!

Tested tags with !, &, #, and /; next pages look all fine.
*happy dance*

Cleaned up my tags and re-edited them back to what they were before they went wrong. Spaces, & and / are working as expected, as is pagination of multi-page displays.

The weird thing with changing the tag browser display settings kicking you back to 'All collections' when another collection is selected still persists though. I'll give that bug report a poke.

Here it is: https://www.librarything.com/topic/288225#n6792459

>76 kristilabrie: kristilabrie
>86 FAMeulstee: FAMeulstee

Well I am not getting good results.

First with "/" forward slash

1.
The book: Porto-Novo: cite rouge, esprit de lagune = Red City, Spirit of the Lagoon
https://www.librarything.com/work/11957612/details/235558757
If you click on the TAG /Benin. Republic of Collection/
You get:
_____________________________________________________________________
/Benin.+Republic+of+Collection/
Includes: /benin.+republic+of+collection/, /Benin.+Republic+of+Collection/
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
=========================================================

2.
The book: Gabun gestern und heute
https://www.librarything.com/work/29891027/details/236134819
If you click on the TAG /Gabon+Collection/
You get:
__________________________________________________________________________
Tag/Gabon+Collection/ Includes: /gabon+collection/, /Gabon+Collection/
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
==========================================================
Second with the dash "-"

3.
The book: Ismael Ivo. Ich glaube an den Körper
https://www.librarything.com/work/29832895/details/235448703
If you click on the TAG ImPulsTanz - Wien note only dash as special character, this was working before!
You get:
_____________________________________________________________________________
TagImPulsTanz+-+Wien
Includes: impulstanz+-+wien, ImPulsTanz+-+Wien
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
==============================================================

I will look for more special characters in my TAGS and give more examples later. For me there was no problem with dashes "-" before and now there is!

Greetings from Vienna
JOHN

> 86 FAMeulstee

I am not getting good results with your library either - or am I doing something wrong?

Book
Hoe duur was de suiker? How sour was the sugar - yes I learned Dutch in the 1960s
https://www.librarything.com/work/1391904/details/236422138
If you click on the TAG: TIOLI+2023-03 this includes plus sign and dash
You get:
_____________________________________________________________________________
TagTIOLI+2023-03
Includes: tioli+2023-03, TIOLI+2023-03
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
=============================================================

Are you getting the correct answer? If yes please let me know and somebody tell me what I am doing incorrectly!

Thanks for anybodies help!

JOHN

>88 johninvienna: If you click from your library, instead of from the book, it works now. You can either click on a tag in your library, or go to tags and click there.

The tag: /Dutch East Indies - dictionaries and encyclopedias/ now correctly shows your book Beknopte encyclopaedie van Nederlandsch-Indië at: https://www.librarything.com/catalog/johninvienna?tag=%2FDutch%20East%20Indies%2...

>89 johninvienna: For the book in my library, you can click on the collection 'To read' to get into my library. If you click the tag there you get the result.
Both '&bibliotheek' and '&e-blibliotheek' will also give results.

You can also go to 'tags' in the top bar, and click a tag there.


I hope this helps, John. Way back it took me a while to understand how it functions.

< 90FAMeulstee

Yes, you are right. But in displaying my books at my library for visitors (yes, often librarians) and the book is selected, I want to access the TAGS from the book.
For example
I show on the screen (176 cm - ten people watching)
Il poverello. Das Leben des Franz von Assisi
https://www.librarything.com/work/29847169/details/235631992
and somebody asks if I have another "Fiction" work about Franz of Assisi
I would then have to go to my books, then TAGS of which there are 46,535 …
Find the TAG /Francis of Assisi. Saint (1182-1226) - fiction/
OR
Go to all the TAGS under HOME "Your books" and find the TAG /Francis of Assisi. Saint (1182-1226) - fiction/

This is not practical and the TAGS in the book entry are "clickable" and should work.

OF course I could give examples of books about Vienna history, or the Habsburgs, or good grief Albrecht Dürer (over 100 books) where very specific TAGS are useful. But how to select them quickly?

Thanks for the answer though - it is nice to know others are watching these things. I am over 80 now and sometimes have "technical" difficulties!

If you are ever here in Vienna, I would love to take you to dinner and show you the library (not far from my flat, 6 rooms including compact shelving).

Greetings
John

>92 johninvienna: You can search the book within your library, in the top bar on the right.

Thanks for the nice invitation. I will let you know if I ever make it to Vienna.
Anita

>76 kristilabrie: kristilabrie

I have looked at this for some time and tried everything. I don't seem to get it. Can you give me the exact steps from the book:
Gabun gestern und heute
https://www.librarything.com/work/29891027/book/236134819

I want to get from the book to /Gabon Collections/
and with that TAG get the books in my library

Thanks
John

>94 johninvienna: Hhm, looking at this. I thought I had a fix but I'm still testing that.

An additional case of tag names malfunctioning—this time tags with apostrophes, which I had not encountered before (previously, it was other special characters)—that might be related to this bug. When looking at a specific tag on the Your books page, I am unable to navigate to the second page of books with that tag, nor am I able to change the column by which I am organizing the books under that tag. Invariably, I get the "no books found" message.

To reproduce:

1. Go to the "children's fiction" tag, on my Your books page: https://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=children%27s+fiction&view=Abiga...

2. Try to navigate to the second page of results / choose a different field to organize by / etc

3. You will get a blank page, and the "No books found" message.

>96 AbigailAdams26: this should be working now.

>73 conceptDawg: conceptDawg
>95 ccatalfo: ccatalfo
> 96 AbigailAdams

Tags with special and not SO special characters are still not working at DETAILS LEVEL, BUT SEEM TO BE AT MAIN LEVEL
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I. Sample with forward slash "/"
Samples
Porto-Novo: cite rouge, esprit de lagune = Red City, Spirit of the Lagoon
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At the MAIN LEVEL
https://www.librarything.com/work/11957612/summary/235558757
Tag /Benin. Republic of Collection/,
CONGRATULATIONS
2 books are found
AT the main or summary level, clicking on the link works
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At the DETAILS LEVEL
https://www.librarything.com/work/11957612/details/235558757
Tags /Benin. Republic of Collection/
after selecting you recieve
Tag/Benin.+Republic+of+Collection/
Includes: /benin.+republic+of+collection/, /Benin.+Republic+of+Collection/
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
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II. Sample with number sign "#"
Nepal. Sonderausstellung im Museum für Völkerkunde
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At the MAIN LEVEL
https://www.librarything.com/work/29069235/summary/227218902
Tag #JL X/17-WMWI the # sign gives the shelf row, 17 refers to the shelf
CONGRATULATONS
88 books are found - they are all on this shelf many small catalogues - for me this is a real breakthrough
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At the DETAILS LEVEL
Tag#JL+X/17-WMWI
https://www.librarything.com/work/29069235/details/227218902
Includes: #jl+x/17-wmwi, #JL+X/17-WMWI
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
None of the 88 show up - this seems to me VERY STRANGE.
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I will look for more samples after dinner!

Perplexed in Vienna as a agreat fan of LibraryThing!
John Marshall

I tried this once again, and the first sample no longer works
The second sample with the # sign DOES WORK AT MAIN LEVEL, but not at DETAILS LEVEL
I am frustrated

John

Similar to this recent issue, when on https://www.librarything.com/tag/%252FNepal+Collection%252F, following a link to one of the included tags, say https://www.librarything.com/tag/%252Fnepal%252Bcollection%252F&norefer=1, erroneously leads to a tag like "/nepal+collection/&norefer=1".



And confirming, as reported in >98 johninvienna: this tag page is indeed empty. Replacing the plus sign with %20, does lead to a populated page: https://www.librarything.com/tag/%252FNepal%20Collection%252F

>99 johninvienna: >100 ianreads: We're working out a fix for the tags with leading slashes issue.

> 98 johninvienna
> 99 johninvienna
> 101 ccatalfo

Hopefully someone else will check this. As of today it seem that the slashes in TAGS "/" is working at the MAIN LEVEL but not at DETAILS LEVEL. Here is a repeat of >98johninvienna.
This was no longer working, see >99johninvienna.

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At the MAIN LEVEL
https://www.librarything.com/work/11957612/summary/235558757
Tag /Benin. Republic of Collection/,
CONGRATULATIONS
2 books are found
AT the main or summary level, clicking on the link works
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At the DETAILS LEVEL
https://www.librarything.com/work/11957612/details/235558757
Tags /Benin. Republic of Collection/
after selecting you recieve
Tag/Benin.+Republic+of+Collection/
Includes: /benin.+republic+of+collection/, /Benin.+Republic+of+Collection/
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
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ANOTHER SAMPLE (Also given somewhat earlier)
AT MAIN LEVEL
책거리 Chaekgeori. Our shelves 우리 책꽂이 Ourselves 우리 자신
https://www.librarything.com/work/28231792/summary/217353060
Tag: /Korea Collection/
CONGRATULATIONS
77 Books are found some without covers - good grief!
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At the DETAILS LEVEL
https://www.librarything.com/work/28231792/details/217353060
Tag /Korea Collection/
Includes: Korea Collection/, korea collection/
Tagged Works
Most often tagged | Weighted | Popular recently | Published recently — Filter: None (edit)
None
Yes I choose this one because my library is pictured twice in the inside cover - the book is about paintings of bookshelves, libraries, etc. in Korea

If this success stays at least at the MAIN LEVEL then for me the battle has been won. But, as previously noted, something working today does not imply it will be working tomorrow.
I have checked this twice with PREVIEW before posting it !

I AM VERY THANKFUL LT Staff are working on this problem. I am anticipating the opening of my library in the Spring of this year and it would be great if this BUG is squashed!
At home with SECOND COVID-19 infection (after 4 vaccinations!)

Greetings, JOHN