Spam reporting thread #72

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Spam reporting thread #72

elokuu 25, 2020, 10:31 am


Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

elokuu 25, 2020, 10:38 am

Good grief, the woman must have tried posting to lots of recent topics. But at least she disappeared quickly. (see next to last message in the topic this is a continuation of.)

elokuu 27, 2020, 5:07 am

Author spam

elokuu 29, 2020, 8:17 pm

Author spam needs one more flag:

Message has been left on his profile:

elokuu 31, 2020, 9:51 am

elokuu 31, 2020, 10:00 am

>6 gilroy:

He was warned once before

Are you sure? It looks as though all the comments about this on his profile were left today.

elokuu 31, 2020, 10:06 am

>6 gilroy: He joined on August 26, so is a new member--no previous warnings.

elokuu 31, 2020, 10:08 am

>9 Marissa_Doyle: That's what I was just going to point out.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 31, 2020, 10:56 am

>8 lilithcat: >9 Marissa_Doyle: >10 clamairy: I misread the date on when he was warned. Never mind. Just profile just for tracking then.

syyskuu 2, 2020, 9:24 am

>12 konallis:

Gone - that was fast!

syyskuu 2, 2020, 10:41 am

Do we know who created it, so we can flag them too, or did they go too?

syyskuu 2, 2020, 12:05 pm

>14 gilroy: I reported the creator (it was fairly obviously a commercial profile), though can't find them again now the group's gone.

syyskuu 2, 2020, 12:07 pm

>15 konallis:

It's a good idea to flag the profile, and post the link here, so that others can also flag it, if necessary.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 4:37 am

New member

I flagged post and left message on profile.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 5:13 am

>16 lilithcat: Thanks. I usually forget to save both URLs in advance (since once you flag a Group, it disappears from your view).

syyskuu 3, 2020, 8:24 am

syyskuu 3, 2020, 10:04 am

>24 Taphophile13: I'm wondering if he doesn't fully understand English, which the author page is written in.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 10:07 am

>25 gilroy:

That's possible, but the lengthy blurbs about two of those groups are in quite decent English, not "run through Google translate" English. So unless he got someone else to translate for him, he has no excuses.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 12:33 pm

Now he's popping up in the Green Dragon.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 1:50 pm

Just flagged him there. Ain’t having that stuff in the Pub.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 2:04 pm

>28 haydninvienna: Thank you. And now it's gone.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 2:28 pm

syyskuu 3, 2020, 2:30 pm

>30 spiralsheep: That one's allowed, because it's in the designated advertising space.

syyskuu 3, 2020, 2:31 pm

>31 gilroy: Thank you. That's why I linked it instead of flagging it. The rules are too complicated for me.

syyskuu 5, 2020, 7:27 am

>33 MarthaJeanne: The profile's gone too.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 5, 2020, 9:30 am

syyskuu 5, 2020, 9:31 am

Wow. Gone! Five minutes!

syyskuu 11, 2020, 9:20 am

>39 norabelle414: Those are gone.

syyskuu 16, 2020, 2:56 pm

Author plugging his book (3 messages in 1 thread):

left message

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 16, 2020, 3:05 pm

Audiobook store:
not sure if that should be treated as regular spam or author/publisher spam

ETA: gone now so irrelevant

syyskuu 17, 2020, 9:24 am

syyskuu 17, 2020, 9:43 am

>43 gilroy:

And I see that she did the right thing and deleted her post.

syyskuu 17, 2020, 12:09 pm

>44 lilithcat: She's posted in Hobnob just before this one. Glad she fixed it.

syyskuu 21, 2020, 3:58 pm

Spam post that survived since 2018 :o

syyskuu 25, 2020, 5:21 am

syyskuu 25, 2020, 5:35 am

>50 spiralsheep: Added a flag.

syyskuu 25, 2020, 9:22 am

All messages from this account have been spam:

syyskuu 25, 2020, 9:27 am

>52 spiralsheep:

By "messages", do you mean Talk posts or do you mean comments left on other profiles?

syyskuu 25, 2020, 9:32 am

>52 spiralsheep: I can't flag on the basis of your opinion that it is spam. Please give a link to the spam.

syyskuu 25, 2020, 10:01 am

>54 MarthaJeanne: I have time to help out by flagging and posting a link. I don't have time to collect and post multiple links. My post gives other people the opportunity to use their available time wisely, by scanning / searching talk for a specific name.

I didn't suggest anyone should flag anything on the basis of my opinion. No need for a rude personal remark. Creating a hostile environment discourages volunteering.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 25, 2020, 10:36 am

>55 spiralsheep:

>54 MarthaJeanne: wasn't making a "rude personal remark". She was just pointing out that we need to know why something is considered spam before flagging it.

It does happen that on occasion people mark as spam something that isn't, so it's natural to want to know the reasoning.

That is why it helps to post links to the purported spam as well as the alleged spammer's profile.

scanning / searching talk for a specific name

But you cannot search talk for posts by a specific name. You can find the name if it's mentioned in a post, but you can't find posts made by a specific person.

ETA: I would also note that "scanning" talk for a name only works if a) you are viewing Talk in such a way as to see the topics in which the alleged spanner has posted (many people have various groups/topics on "ignore"), and b) the alleged spammer is the last person to have posted in the topic.

syyskuu 25, 2020, 11:21 am

Author offering his book for download

left note (

syyskuu 25, 2020, 12:54 pm

>55 spiralsheep: If you only want to post one link, then please give the link to the spam.

syyskuu 25, 2020, 1:20 pm

>52 spiralsheep: Plus, if it’s author spam; we don’t flag the profile, we leave an informational message.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 26, 2020, 7:28 am


First one still needs one flag.

syyskuu 26, 2020, 6:25 am

What is it with new authors posting in the 75 book challenge group all of a sudden?

syyskuu 26, 2020, 6:29 am

Suspecting author, based on the way they're advertising and the fact that it's a new profile: (Already left note)

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 26, 2020, 11:24 am


This author spam is probably all being done by the same person. Just too similar to >60 MarthaJeanne: and several others recently.

Book talk
Club read
75 book challenge
Talk about LibraryThing

syyskuu 26, 2020, 5:50 pm

syyskuu 26, 2020, 6:04 pm

>66 lilithcat:

Fourth flag added!

syyskuu 28, 2020, 10:32 am

>67 konallis:

Both gone now.

syyskuu 28, 2020, 5:46 pm

syyskuu 28, 2020, 6:01 pm

Gone now

lokakuu 4, 2020, 4:44 pm

lokakuu 5, 2020, 9:44 am has been proposed as spam, but those are legit items, albeit several unrelated combined together because they share ISBN. Either way, 40 members have the work, so it's not going to be spam. The cover amazon shows for one of those is some unrelated product, even though the work is audio CD, which is I believe why it was flagged in the first place. But only the cover seems flaggable

lokakuu 5, 2020, 10:04 am

Take a look at those members’ libraries. They are all remarkably similar. Scam, if not spam.

lokakuu 5, 2020, 10:08 am

>74 SandraArdnas:, >75 2wonderY:

It looks like a number of those libraries are a mix of legitimate books and spam. Not sure what that's about.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 5, 2020, 10:22 am

It’s a common tactic to fly below the radar, I think. The various accounts even use the same legitimate works.

lokakuu 5, 2020, 12:28 pm

>75 2wonderY: Indeed, and the few spam ones I opened are also combined with legit works, so before flagging them, we should separate those.

lokakuu 5, 2020, 3:53 pm

lokakuu 5, 2020, 4:42 pm

>79 amanda4242: He's actually a newbie, been here since February. I thought the name looked familiar...

lokakuu 6, 2020, 7:05 am
Enthusiastic 15 year old author. (Already left profile message) (Join to flag)

lokakuu 6, 2020, 8:40 am

>82 gilroy: But after you flag you can leave again.

lokakuu 6, 2020, 8:49 pm

>83 MarthaJeanne: Yes, but I was giving the alert to those who wanted to flag it.

lokakuu 6, 2020, 9:13 pm

Gone now.

lokakuu 8, 2020, 9:16 am

>86 lilithcat: That's gone, but while we're at it, he has a review that is just a quote from somebody else.

lokakuu 8, 2020, 10:52 am

lokakuu 9, 2020, 8:27 am

translation: specializes in providing professional home karaoke, modern new technology brings good sound, with many genuine cheap prices suitable to each customer's needs.

lokakuu 10, 2020, 4:09 am

Author spam


lokakuu 10, 2020, 2:49 pm

Author created a group to promote his book:

( left note

lokakuu 10, 2020, 3:42 pm

>94 Taphophile13: Guess they chose to run instead of try to join the community.

lokakuu 10, 2020, 3:55 pm

>95 gilroy:

Well, sure. Because if you can't use the site to advertise your book, what's the point? /snark/

lokakuu 10, 2020, 4:05 pm

>93 MarthaJeanne: The author doesn't think offering free copies is advertising.

lokakuu 10, 2020, 10:49 pm

Author posted links for his book on Amazon:

( left message

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 17, 2020, 3:02 am

author advertising book

Edit: there's also a review not marked as author review, but flags are only for 'not a review' and TOS violations. How does it get labelled as authors reviewing their own work?

lokakuu 17, 2020, 8:34 am

>101 SandraArdnas:

How does it get labelled as authors reviewing their own work?

I believe the person must be an LT author for that to happen. Otherwise, there's no way for the system to know that it's the author.

lokakuu 17, 2020, 6:13 pm

>103 lilithcat: Thanks, that makes sense, but leaves us with no option to mark self-reviews when necessary

lokakuu 19, 2020, 3:46 pm

SandraArdnas (#105):

Thanks, that makes sense, but leaves us with no option to mark self-reviews when necessary

There never has been such an option. It's been requested, but staff hasn't been interested. ILTt was a huge many-year effort just to get them to mark official LT-Author reviews.

lokakuu 22, 2020, 11:59 am

>107 lilithcat: oops. She got suspended...

lokakuu 27, 2020, 7:36 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

lokakuu 27, 2020, 8:00 am

>109 Collectorator: That's odd. Normally I'd expect the members with that title to be shady and repetitive. Not so here. A sample shows legitimate catalogs and members.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 27, 2020, 8:08 am

I've marked it for a vote, but am not myself sure that it is spam.

This is bad Amazon data that members have not corrected.

lokakuu 27, 2020, 8:14 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

lokakuu 27, 2020, 1:10 pm

>109 Collectorator: Rates right up there with {Black Hole Work},

lokakuu 29, 2020, 7:42 am

Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.

lokakuu 29, 2020, 1:56 pm

Bwahahahaha Spammer hit the spam reporting thread

lokakuu 29, 2020, 2:01 pm

>117 gilroy:

It's not the first time.

lokakuu 29, 2020, 2:28 pm

>118 lilithcat: Oh I know. I just laugh at the stupidity each and every time.

lokakuu 30, 2020, 1:54 am

This user was already removed, but their spam post from 2 years ago remains:

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 31, 2020, 5:21 am

Never mind, it's already gone

lokakuu 31, 2020, 10:34 am

lokakuu 31, 2020, 10:35 am

Please give us a link to the spam.

lokakuu 31, 2020, 10:50 am

>123 MarthaJeanne:

I found one spot where he posted, but the post is gone.

lokakuu 31, 2020, 5:17 pm

>125 2wonderY: There's also some inappropriate garbage mentioning her book in two of her reviews of other works.

lokakuu 31, 2020, 5:41 pm

>126 2wonderY:

Well, that's tacky!

marraskuu 2, 2020, 7:09 am

I flagged this profile a few days ago; and it should have disappeared. Wondering why it hasn't.

marraskuu 2, 2020, 8:53 am

Muokkaaja: marraskuu 3, 2020, 5:33 am

marraskuu 3, 2020, 12:16 pm

This is new to me - spam embedded in the default title and DDC for American Gods:
If there's a way I can fix this, it's not apparent to me.

Muokkaaja: marraskuu 3, 2020, 12:24 pm

>132 hipdeep: They put the spam link in the Canonical DDC/MDS CK field, and added a spam event in the important events field.

ETA: And they replaced the last words with a spam link!

marraskuu 6, 2020, 3:15 pm

Author spam


marraskuu 19, 2020, 11:45 am

Publisher spam


marraskuu 24, 2020, 9:07 pm

Muokkaaja: marraskuu 24, 2020, 9:13 pm

marraskuu 29, 2020, 2:55 pm

Muokkaaja: marraskuu 30, 2020, 3:06 am includes a link to a choir robe website.


joulukuu 2, 2020, 11:55 am

>147 lilithcat: That was fast.

joulukuu 7, 2020, 6:39 pm

Overlooked stale spam from an already-removed account:

Muokkaaja: joulukuu 11, 2020, 3:12 pm

joulukuu 16, 2020, 7:03 am

joulukuu 16, 2020, 8:08 am

>152 2wonderY: The private member who entered it gave it 5 stars.

joulukuu 16, 2020, 8:18 am

Right. That member has been removed. It wasn’t listed as a private member before that. Wondering if that’s an oddity of system changes.

joulukuu 22, 2020, 10:08 pm

Author recommending her books multiple times in this thread, starting here:

joulukuu 22, 2020, 11:28 pm

>156 Marissa_Doyle:

Flagged, and I left a message on her profile.

joulukuu 23, 2020, 3:43 am

>156 Marissa_Doyle: >157 lilithcat: I already dropped an email to staff. Enthusiastic author that I've seen elsewhere.

joulukuu 23, 2020, 4:13 am

For future reference, not for present flagging:

This was Lgood67334

joulukuu 23, 2020, 6:01 am

>159 MarthaJeanne: She's been around since 2012, but doing the author thing for almost a year, possibly two. She has notes about the ER program on her profile...

joulukuu 24, 2020, 1:22 pm

Member removed (

Back with new member name and the same messages

joulukuu 25, 2020, 11:05 am

joulukuu 25, 2020, 11:06 am

>166 lilithcat: Sorry. So many it's hard to keep track.

joulukuu 25, 2020, 11:08 am

I think nothing will help except flagging the profile.

joulukuu 25, 2020, 11:10 am

>168 MarthaJeanne: Agree and done.

joulukuu 25, 2020, 11:33 am

For some strange reason he’s still there.

Muokkaaja: joulukuu 25, 2020, 11:41 am

This profile seems to be a year old, maybe that's why.

Well, at least several topics are gone.

joulukuu 25, 2020, 12:40 pm

You wouldn’t think so. One member made a campaign of cleaning out old spam accounts.

Muokkaaja: joulukuu 26, 2020, 3:42 am

>172 2wonderY: It's not obvious spam; it looks like just an ordinary account with nothing catalogued yet.

joulukuu 26, 2020, 6:38 am

>173 karenb: it shouldn’t matter. The profile has been flagged by multiple members after a flurry of Spam postings.

joulukuu 26, 2020, 7:28 am

>173 karenb: Yes, the profile itself was a year old, dead and unused, and not obvious spam.
But if you follow what they do now, it now qualifies as spam and needs to go.

joulukuu 26, 2020, 12:31 pm

joulukuu 26, 2020, 1:23 pm

>176 lilithcat: Enthusiastic Author?

joulukuu 26, 2020, 1:47 pm

>177 gilroy:

Could be, though he describes himself as a blogger.

joulukuu 26, 2020, 4:05 pm

>173 karenb: >174 2wonderY:
Was merely explaining why it wasn't flagged as spam back when the account was made, in response to >172 2wonderY:

joulukuu 26, 2020, 4:47 pm

Ah, gotcha. And I wasn’t faulting you at all; just wondering why this one is hanging around after having been flagged. Usually that only happens if they’ve added a book. Perhaps joining groups offers the same protection.

joulukuu 27, 2020, 2:52 am

joulukuu 27, 2020, 4:37 am

Here’s a new spam account that joined a group. Let’s see if flagging takes it down or doesn’t.

joulukuu 27, 2020, 4:55 am

joulukuu 27, 2020, 5:02 am

Shoots my theory at >180 2wonderY: down.

joulukuu 27, 2020, 11:05 am

>183 MarthaJeanne: Now spamming my profile.

Muokkaaja: joulukuu 28, 2020, 6:25 am

Group directing to member’s outside website

Member: EiderRuiz

joulukuu 28, 2020, 6:34 am

>189 2wonderY: About me on his profile says

Books like Rich Dad and Poor Dad have changed my mind. I am currently rereading the Money Code.
Thanks to these readings I write a blog to learn how to earn money on the Internet

joulukuu 28, 2020, 11:34 am

Author recommending his own book, but without a touchstone don’t know if it fits the Thread

joulukuu 28, 2020, 12:07 pm

You'd think he'd be smart enough to enter his own book, wouldn't you?

joulukuu 28, 2020, 5:06 pm

He's been here over a year. He should know better

joulukuu 28, 2020, 6:47 pm

Enthusiastic author still needs a few more flags. Profile already been noted by a few others.

joulukuu 29, 2020, 8:17 am

This one bears watching, I think: Joined today, no books in profile.

joulukuu 29, 2020, 8:30 am

I flagged the post. It doesn’t belong in that thread.

Here’s The profile:

Not flagging that yet.

Muokkaaja: joulukuu 29, 2020, 8:48 am

>195 haydninvienna: he’s so innocently driving traffic to Pixetic, a new web design group in Lviv, Ukraine.

joulukuu 29, 2020, 9:16 am

>195 haydninvienna: Looks to me like straightforward commercial spam.

joulukuu 29, 2020, 2:28 pm

>199 FAMeulstee: Member is gone.

joulukuu 29, 2020, 3:34 pm

>200 MarthaJeanne: Group is also gone.

joulukuu 30, 2020, 11:28 am

>1 lilithcat: Is it time to continue this topic in Thread #73?

Muokkaaja: tammikuu 4, 2021, 8:38 am

tammikuu 4, 2021, 8:39 am


And time for a new thread.
Tämä viestiketju jatkuu täällä: Spam reporting thread #73.