General 2020 Discussion Thread


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General 2020 Discussion Thread

tammikuu 7, 2020, 4:30pm

Since it is easiest to follow threads in LT discussion, I thought I'd create a general 2020 discussion thread that everyone can follow, ask questions, discuss genealogy finds, point out new genealogy-related books (fiction and non-fiction), etc. If we reach a threshold of posts, we'll be able to create a continuation thread. If we aren't using lots of graphics, we should be able to wait until we reach around 200-250 posts before continuing it.

If you want to create your own thread as in some of the book groups, please feel free to post a link to that thread here so those not regularly checking the group but who are following this thread can find it.

Let's talk genealogy!

tammikuu 7, 2020, 4:52pm

Great idea, Lori!

tammikuu 7, 2020, 5:09pm

>2 Dejah_Thoris: I think it will mean more people get responses! I know many people star threads they follow rather than going to the group page all the time!

tammikuu 7, 2020, 5:20pm

Looking for a way to force yourself to write about your ancestors? Try Amy Johnson Crow's 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks. The 2020 Weekly Themes are generic enough to make finding a subject easy.

tammikuu 9, 2020, 8:39am

New on Facebook: The International Genealogy Book Club. It's not restricted to genealogy and history books. If you are on Facebook, please join Blaine, Yvette, and the rest of us!

tammikuu 9, 2020, 10:05pm

>4 thornton37814: I think I made it about 1/3 of the way through 52 Ancestors a few years ago. I'm not sure my family genealogy is compelling enough for 52 weeks of writing.

tammikuu 10, 2020, 7:48am

>6 lesmel: I understand. I think a lot depends on how deeply you research collateral lines. Many of my most interesting stories come from x-great aunts or uncles or distant cousins. I actually want to find better documentation on a family story involving one of those distant x-great aunts this year. It's one of the two very specific goals I set. Her descendants have passed down the story, but they lack documentation. I intend to search county records until I prove or disprove it. It probably won't happen until summer because of my schedule.

tammikuu 11, 2020, 9:43am

Are you doing a genealogical activity this weekend? Going to a seminar or workshop? Attending a webinar or watching an archived one? Reading a genealogy book or one related in some way to your family's history? Researching a person or family? Working on a genealogical problem? Working with DNA matches? etc.

I'll be reading some more of Generations and Change, working a bit on a client's research problem, and working with DNA matches. I really need to look at Dad's DNA matches to try to find more matches that might help resolve a problem or two on his lines. I'm sure he'll have matches I don't.

tammikuu 11, 2020, 10:07am

>8 thornton37814: Generations and Change look really interesting, Lori. It was published by a local University press (Mercer), but, ironically, I can't borrow the copy from my local branch because it's in the Genealogy and Local History Room.

Another library in the (nearly) statewide system has it available for circulation, so I've requested it. It's about time I got back to some reading and research. Thanks for the prompt!

tammikuu 11, 2020, 12:46pm

I'm working the reference desk at the genealogy library today. Does that count? :) Despite the pouring rain, I have patrons! If I can get these marketing documents revised, I'll be moving on to database corrections. Late 1990s/early 2000s OCR is a beast.

tammikuu 12, 2020, 2:34pm

>9 Dejah_Thoris: The book has been sitting near my reading spot begging to be picked up for the nearly two years since Elizabeth Shown Mills recommended it on a Facebook group. I ordered my own copy even though it was available. I'm reading a chapter a day.

>10 casvelyn: Working the genealogy reference desk does indeed count! We are all thankful for genealogical librarians who know their collections and can help us when we visit one outside our usual areas or begin researching in a topic less familiar to us. My sympathies on the OCR corrections. I try to avoid reading e-books scanned by OCR!

tammikuu 18, 2020, 1:55pm

Working on a client project some today. This one involves sorting everyone with a somewhat common surname in several early counties where the earliest known ancestor resided into family groups.

Muokkaaja: tammikuu 19, 2020, 12:07am

re: New on Facebook: The International Genealogy Book Club.

Cool. Thank you for sharing. I sent a request and shared with the Olympia Genealogical Society Facebook page. Much appreciated. : - )

tammikuu 19, 2020, 2:53pm

>13 OlympiaGenSociety: You're welcome! It's a fun group.

tammikuu 25, 2020, 9:58am

Today I'm finishing up my "handouts" for the Salt Lake City conference in May. Deadline is Tuesday. I only have formatting remaining. I may need to delete a few things to make it fit. I'll see once I've selected a font, adjusted headings, etc. I'll probably work on a client project for a bit after that. I like to spend a couple hours on Sundays reviewing new DNA matches.

What genealogical-related things are on your weekend agenda?

helmikuu 1, 2020, 9:32pm

Registration for the Institute for Genealogical and Historical Research (IGHR) opened today, and registration for GRIP (Genealogical Research Institute of Pittsburgh) opens next week. Did you sign up, or do you plan to sign up? For which course?

I'll be taking the Intermediate DNA course at IGHR.

maaliskuu 16, 2020, 8:22pm

Just got an e-mail suggesting a project: during this stressful time consider writing a diary or journal for your descendants. A personal look at what you are experiencing in this age of COVID-19. Your opinions, fears or skepticism, how you are reacting to the news, etc. If you ever wished that a family member had written a diary about the Revolution, Civil War, San Francisco earthquake or other event, be that ancestor for someone.

maaliskuu 17, 2020, 12:27pm

>17 Taphophile13: I was thinking about doing this yesterday.

maaliskuu 17, 2020, 7:53pm

>17 Taphophile13: >18 mnleona: Yes. There are several FB memes encouraging this. I may not be able to do it daily, but I do plan to it. I won't have ancestors, but there will be descendants of some of my nieces and nephews who may be thankful for it.

maaliskuu 18, 2020, 8:37am

Since I work for a government agency that deals in history and culture, we've been documenting what we've been doing for our internal historic collections. It's actually kind of neat. We're closed to the public, but staff is still working either in person or from home and we are still helping people with their genealogy research and with marriage lookups for Real ID. We're treating it like an adventure.

maaliskuu 18, 2020, 9:11am

I have an ancestor, Titian, who was an artist and he died at the age of 99 because of the plague. I never thought of such a connection but seeing how it has hit Italy, it is something I need to write for my family even though it is a sad time.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 18, 2020, 1:42pm

I saw a notice from ProQuest that if public libraries have good proxy authentication for their patrons and subscribe to Ancestry Library Edition (ALE) that Ancestry will make ALE available outside the library at least until April 30.

This may help some of you who lack personal subscriptions.

maaliskuu 18, 2020, 1:38pm

>20 casvelyn: That's great! I guess we'll see how long we stay open. I noticed ALA is encouraging libraries to close. I've seen a few new closures announced either late yesterday or today.

>21 mnleona: My grandfather's brother was one of the 1918 flu victims.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 18, 2020, 3:37pm

>23 thornton37814: I intend to be here in the office until the bitter end... either they send me home or I get sick myself. Although "there's no such thing as a genealogical emergency," (an inside joke at my office) we want to keep helping people as long as possible. We're also working with libraries throughout the state to provide access to anything and everything possible to people stuck at home, and also helping people connect with free internet services, setting up remote work options, anything we can do to help people. Especially since about noon today nearly every public and academic library in the state is closed.

We also have cake. :)

maaliskuu 18, 2020, 5:26pm

>24 casvelyn: Do you happen to know if the Allen County Public Library staff are working inside the building? I requested a bunch of articles through PERSI. I know the library is closed, but I wasn't sure if the genealogy center staff are working. Here a lot of libraries are closing to the public, but the library staff continue to work on projects. I know that may not be the case in every place. Articles requested are things needed for a presentation.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 18, 2020, 8:48pm

>25 thornton37814: I'm not sure; they are still accepting ILLs at the main branch, so somebody is working, but whether the Genealogy Center is open (edited: well I know they're not open, I don't know if staff is working) or not, I can't tell from home. I don't remember seeing their "we're closed" post on the public library listserv, but with over 200 Indiana libraries announcing closures over the course of 48 hours plus two employees working from home, my inbox has been a hot mess. I know a couple people up there, so I can try to find out more tomorrow.

PS: Also I sent you a pm :)

maaliskuu 18, 2020, 8:58pm

In other genealogical-ish news, I just filled out my 2020 Census. Forget apportionment and funding, I count for posterity.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 18, 2020, 10:40pm

>27 casvelyn: I answered the disappointing (lack of) questions too.

maaliskuu 19, 2020, 8:15am

>28 thornton37814: As a household of one, my census is going to be quite boring, except maybe to demographic researchers. Oh well. If I live to be 106, I can see it again when it's released to the public!

maaliskuu 19, 2020, 9:13am

>29 casvelyn: I'm afraid I'll be almost 130 before it's released so I will never see it. Not that it will be helpful to anyone.

Muokkaaja: maaliskuu 19, 2020, 10:25am

maaliskuu 19, 2020, 6:22pm

Not sure how long they are offering it, but Family Tree Magazine is offering a free issue of their magazine because of the CoronaVirus problems:

maaliskuu 20, 2020, 2:39pm

I'm participating in the Lord Peter Wimsey series group read. #3 is Unnatural Death. I'm currently listening. This one involves a forensic genealogy angle where the estate laws changed right about the time of death so I'm loving it!

maaliskuu 20, 2020, 2:46pm

A few upcoming fiction books with genealogy-related plots:

April 7 - One Perfect Summer by Brenda Novak. Person takes a 23 & Me DNA test and finds two half-sisters.
April 14 - Perfect Tunes by Emily Gould. Baker & Taylor description: A talented songwriter resists her daughter's painful questions about the musician father who died before she was born and is forced to confront heartbreak when her daughter embarks on a search for her father's family.
April 28 - The Sweeney Sisters by Lian Dolan. Journalist takes a DNA test and is a 50% match to a childhood neighbor.

maaliskuu 20, 2020, 5:40pm

Maureen is offering her Coloring the Past book free (for the moment):

heinäkuu 2, 2020, 3:45pm

>35 thornton37814: Still available. Thanks.

heinäkuu 9, 2020, 7:25am

Past few days I have really been active on Ancestry and have found information on my biological father's side. I have found my 4th great grandfather. I have my step- father's family tree when the Joplings/Joplins came to America from Wales on a chart.

heinäkuu 9, 2020, 9:04am

>37 mnleona: That's great. Have you found a passenger list of any sort?

We've had some great webinars and so forth during the midst of COVID-19. Last night Warren Bittner did an evening presentation for GRIP (Genealogical Research Institute of Pittsburgh) in which he presented all sorts of interesting things he'd picked up through reading various types of histories that made him look at things differently. The title of his talk was "Beat Your Children With a Fresh Birch Stick So the Animals Don't Get Worms." The title was a custom of a teacher (ca 1800) beating students on Shrove Tuesday which he encountered in literature read while working on his dissertation. The presentation added many books to the wish lists of those attending--and many went ahead and ordered the books last night. Mine just went on a wish list until I could check library availability.

heinäkuu 14, 2020, 7:52am

This is from an email I get from Linda Weaver Clarke. I have read some of her books.


syyskuu 22, 2020, 6:57pm

>6 lesmel: Lesmel ... Understand your reluctance, but I long assumed all of my ancestors were merely ordinary Norwegian farmers ... both there and here in the USA, that is, until my Great Aunt disabused me of the notion.

"Oh, No!" she exclaimed, as she got up to pull out a huge, rolled-up sheet someone had compiled of ancestors going back to 1300 Denmark, when distant relatives were intimately involved with Royalty, and with the attempt by a German Count to take over Jutland. Later, back in AZ, I did some research of my own in the University Library ... where I discovered everything she said was true ... It's all there in history books. (Understand this was decades ago, prior to the internet.)

Relatives both in the USA and in Europe now use computers to research our family tree ... and I kid you not ... I've followed lines back to the Roman Empire, to Constantinople, and even to Mohammed's grandson's wife (or one of his wives?) According to, she was the daughter of the Last Shah of Iran,Yazdegird III, who ruled prior to the Muslim invasion. Later, her husband, Husayn Ibn Ali Ibn Abt Talib was killed at the Battle of Kerbala ... which split the Muslim world into two factions: Shia and Sunni.

The point is that relatives do most of the research ... and the computer sends weekly updates ... which means that these things are simply dropped into my lap ... One thing I've learned is that the further back you go in time, the more relatives you will find, and many of them will astonish you.

Whether or not all of these genealogical findings are true ... is almost beside the point ... because true or not, they open up worlds of understanding, enriching and enlivening history.

syyskuu 22, 2020, 7:18pm

>40 Rood: I'm quite skeptical of genealogies that go too far back without adhering to the genealogical proof standard.

lokakuu 31, 2020, 11:02am

2020 interfered with our research plans in ways we could not foresee. With libraries closed, I've found myself purchasing a lot more books just to be able to use something. Some libraries, even those closed to the public, offer simple look-ups. I've used tons of online resources during the pandemic, but my list of manuscripts and library resources needing my "in person" attention continues to grow. I missed out on a trip to Salt Lake City as well as a trip to visit my 2 great-grandfather's tombstone in Kansas (when I was supposed to attend a nearby conference that went virtual). I also planned to visit a couple state archives that did not happen. Of course, the regular trips to the nearest good genealogy collection did not happen.

How did 2020 affect your research?

Muokkaaja: helmikuu 1, 7:22pm

ighr regisration opens in Mar 6, 2021

GRIP opens Feb 17, 2021

other free and paid genealogy webinars listed on a free google calendar at

helmikuu 1, 7:31pm

>43 genealogy_nana: I'm excited for both opportunities. Fingers crossed I get into the GRIP class I want.