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Spam reporting thread #63

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1lilithcat
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 3:49 pm

PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM

Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Spam
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

3karenb
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 3, 2018, 12:39 am

(moving)

5karenb
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 3, 2018, 12:38 am

(deleting)

6karenb
huhtikuu 3, 2018, 12:37 am

> 4
Rats! Sorry! I just did it again, too -- wrong window.

9Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 3, 2018, 1:16 am

>8 Taphophile13: He edited the posts, and posted them again, in the same groups.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/289545#
http://www.librarything.com/topic/289544

I left them as links, but folks, please don't flag them.

10Taphophile13
huhtikuu 3, 2018, 1:08 am

>9Not egregiously pushing his book now and they are not pointing to Amazon anymore. I'm inclined to let members of that group decide. He did contact me and apologized for those posts so I think he's making an effort. He also asked me to "clear him for a book giveaway". I gave him links to the programs and Lorannen.

11Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 3, 2018, 1:14 am

>10 Taphophile13: I'll follow your lead on this one. As I said, I'm aware that I can be heartless. Besides, I've encountered a weird bug here on LT that just showed up in the last day or two, and it's a bit distracting...

(and yes, I took the flags off both topics, and I'm going to edit my post above to change the tone...)

12Marissa_Doyle
huhtikuu 3, 2018, 5:58 pm

Profile picture spam: http://www.librarything.com/pic/6205891

Not sure how to go about flagging this sort of thing--can someone point me to a how-to?

13lilithcat
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 3, 2018, 6:52 pm

1. It’s not spam. Authors can post that sort of thing on their personal profile pages.

2. It is not possible to flag images in a member’s gallery.

19davidgn
huhtikuu 7, 2018, 2:41 am

I'm seeing a lot of these the past few days:

Book talk : #Digital Marketing Institute{9599690869}In Dwarka#Rsm Digital Academy# 1 unread / 1 sabhu, Today 2:40am
Book talk : #Digital Marketing Institute#9599690869#In Dwarka#Rsm Digital Academy# 1 unread / 1 sabhu, Today 2:39am
Book talk : |Best Digital Marketing Institute#9599690869#In Dwarka|Rsm Digital Academy 1 unread / 1 sabhu, Today 2:38am
Book talk : |Digital Marketing Institute#9599690869#In Dwarka| 1 unread / 1 sabhu, Today 2:37am
Book talk : Digital Marketing Institute9599690869In Dwarka 1 unread / 1 sabhu, Today 2:36am
Book talk : Best Digital Marketing Institute|9599690869| In Dwarka 1 unread / 1 sabhu, Today 2:35am

Is there a reason the filter is missing them? Can we update it?

20lilithcat
huhtikuu 7, 2018, 8:54 am

>19 davidgn:

I don’t know why they’re being missed, but it would be extremely helpful to provide links so that people can find and flag these posts.

21lilithcat
huhtikuu 7, 2018, 9:01 am

23lilithcat
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 2:44 pm

>22 2wonderY:

Here, too: http://www.librarything.com/profile/UrgentCareAG

I'm rather concerned that the first one hasn't gone away, yet. It's been several hours.

24Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 3:16 pm

>23 lilithcat: The other is gone, now, but the one you posted is still there. I've flagged it twice, myself, and normally, two flags from the active members here on Spam Fighters is enough to kill off that type of account. I suppose it's just going to take a while... More flags would probably still help, though.

25Taphophile13
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 3:22 pm

>24 Lyndatrue: I've already flagged that one too. Apparently the server problem has affected spam deleting. You can message Lorannen and she will take care of it.

26Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 3:44 pm

>25 Taphophile13: Just a quick note that I let Lorannen know about this latest profile.

28Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 9, 2018, 4:11 pm

>27 lilithcat: Never hurts to let her know, though (and it's still around, as well).

Enthusiastic author:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/mreyes84 (Please don't flag the profile)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/289856#

I left the standard message on his profile.

29lilithcat
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 4:16 pm

>28 Lyndatrue:

Oh, agreed, that was just informational.

31strande
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 9, 2018, 11:00 pm

Three junk comments on a venue.
www.librarything.com/venue/107676/Strand-Book-Kiosk-Times-Square

One junk comment on a venue.
www.librarything.com/venue/1179/Midtown-Comics-Times-Square

32Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 10, 2018, 12:32 am

>31 strande: I'm not sure what we here on spam fighters can do about this. You should probably let Lorannen know about it. She probably has the powers to remove those "comments" from the venues.

33karenb
huhtikuu 10, 2018, 1:44 am

>31 strande: It's interesting that that user's Talk comments disappeared, but their Venue comments have not. The user has been suspended.

Do the Talk comments have to be flagged to disappear?

34Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 10, 2018, 1:56 am

>33 karenb: As I'd already mentioned, this is something that Lorannen or other staff person will have to handle. Personally, I think they've had a rough weekend, and I'd just let it be until tomorrow.

39strande
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 10, 2018, 1:34 pm

>32 Lyndatrue: >33 karenb:

I had an impression "this is how it is done": simply mention here venue comment abuse, and a capable administrator will remove it.

www.librarything.com/topic/110306#2830937

40karenb
huhtikuu 10, 2018, 1:46 pm

>32 Lyndatrue: >39 strande:

Ah, thanks. I wasn't sure if any of it was automated. So: no. Got it!

41Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 10, 2018, 2:35 pm

>39 strande: It worked better when the site was smaller (note that the thread you referenced was from 2011). It's just too much nowadays, and I'm very sure that Lorannen (and other staff folks) do not read this thread on a regular basis. Some things (such as Talk) are quite automated, but there are still bits and pieces that require staff intervention. It helps to let them know (and Lorannen is very helpful on things like this).

42strande
huhtikuu 10, 2018, 3:18 pm

>41 Lyndatrue:

I searched for (venue comment) to find that case. I am not an active Fighter. Thank you for bringing me up to speed. How should I ask Lorannen? (by e-mail, profile comment, other?)

43Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 10, 2018, 6:48 pm

>42 strande: No worries. I just left a comment on her profile, pointing out the two venues, and the original post here in this thread that you'd made. The rest is magic, as far as I can tell.

44Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 11, 2018, 1:43 am

462wonderY
huhtikuu 11, 2018, 10:51 am

>45 2wonderY: haven't gone away yet.

47lilithcat
huhtikuu 11, 2018, 10:55 am

>46 2wonderY:

No, and I flagged that first one in your >46 2wonderY: last night.

Apparently, this was affected by the downtime. See Tim's post here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/289844#6443600 Not sure why it's still not working.

482wonderY
huhtikuu 11, 2018, 11:04 am

Right. I just hoped more members would flag.

Here's a topic that I rescued from the Spam folder just now. It is author spam. I didn't want the profile suspended, so I left a note on the author's profile page.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/289939
http://www.librarything.com/profile/blythedunwood

Post can be flagged.

49karenb
huhtikuu 11, 2018, 2:19 pm

>48 2wonderY:

Topic has been deleted.

>45 2wonderY: >46 2wonderY:

Still haven't gone away, but it can be useful to see what other folks see as spam. Flagged them all again, myself.

50lorannen
huhtikuu 11, 2018, 3:03 pm

Sorry for the stubborn profiles, folks. Due to some lingering issues after the Great Downtime of April 2018 (discussion of those issues here), we had to temporarily shut off the process that applies the "provisional spam" account status. Devs are discussing whether there's a way to leave that on while still doing the necessary work. In the meantime, I'm checking accounts flagged as spam periodically throughout the day to knock them down manually.

51lilithcat
huhtikuu 11, 2018, 4:08 pm

>50 lorannen:

Thanks, lorannen! Always good to know why things are happening (or not happening), and what's being done. Appreciate you staying on top of these.

522wonderY
huhtikuu 11, 2018, 4:33 pm

55andyl
huhtikuu 12, 2018, 4:30 am

Diet
https://www.librarything.com/topic/290002

As an aside would it be a good idea for a request that a URL in the title should be enough to automatically trash a message? I don't think I have seen a valid message in that form.

58norabelle414
huhtikuu 12, 2018, 9:35 am

59Taphophile13
huhtikuu 12, 2018, 12:22 pm

Author offering autographed copy of his book:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/241047#6446690

Don't flag profile:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/kenspank
I left a note.

60lorannen
huhtikuu 12, 2018, 1:42 pm

Good news! We've turned the provisional spam function back on, so profiles that get a few flags should be disappearing automatically again. I'll keep an eye on things today, just to make sure, but so far, it appears to be working just fine.

612wonderY
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 12, 2018, 3:22 pm

profiles on 54, 56 & 57 still need knocked down.

64lilithcat
huhtikuu 13, 2018, 2:38 pm

>63 Taphophile13:

this is rodix nikson. i am a teacher

dear friends this group is for those students who are searching for online solutions for their homework problem.we provide you instant live help in your homework .

That's pretty scary. Would you buy homework from this man?

65lilithcat
huhtikuu 13, 2018, 2:43 pm

66Taphophile13
huhtikuu 13, 2018, 2:44 pm

>64 lilithcat: I certainly would not buy grammar or punctuation assistance from him.

On a side note, I worry about how many students today are buying their way through school. What kind of doctors, teachers, lawyers, CPAs, etc. will they be if they simply bought all the answers?

68Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 13, 2018, 6:02 pm

Just in case:

http://www.librarything.com/profile/ec96521e
http://www.librarything.com/topic/290068#

(The topic is gone, but the profile remains. Yeah, I need more patience. Some of the profiles flagged above are finally gone, although Crypto Currency guy may take staff intervention.)

69Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 14, 2018, 1:04 am

The last profile still needs flagging, and here's a new one.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/darronchett
http://www.librarything.com/topic/290077#

70karenb
huhtikuu 14, 2018, 3:46 am

>69 Lyndatrue:

have flagged both profiles.

71lilithcat
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 14, 2018, 8:47 am

72Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 14, 2018, 10:39 am

>71 lilithcat: The first one also has a "book" which needs flagging. Considering how long it's taking for flagged profiles to vanish, the book almost certainly needs flagging as well. I can't figure out how to do it (probably a lack of caffeine).

http://www.librarything.com/work/21708545/154910201

73norabelle414
huhtikuu 14, 2018, 10:43 am

>72 Lyndatrue: The flag is on the "editions" page. I always forget that too.

74Marissa_Doyle
huhtikuu 14, 2018, 11:23 am

Flagged 'em. I wonder if the number of flags required to bomb spam profiles got misadjusted during the recent upheaval?

75Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 14, 2018, 12:26 pm

>74 Marissa_Doyle: et al. Flagging profiles seems broken, or at least very delayed. I've mentioned it to Lorannen, but not heard back. All the other flagging (including that fake book above) seems to be working, and profiles flagged ages ago seem to be suspended now. It's still worth flagging them. Sooner or later the system will catch up.

My only real concern right now is that even the last profile in the spam folder is still not suspended... (although it looks weird). I dunno.

76Taphophile13
huhtikuu 14, 2018, 1:48 pm

80lilithcat
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 15, 2018, 9:28 am

Viestin kirjoittaja on poistanut viestin.

82gilroy
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 3:41 pm

>81 Taphophile13: Sadly, I could use a yoga retreat for the next 12 days...

83Taphophile13
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 4:07 pm

>82 gilroy: Pre-wedding jitters? Just remember to breathe. It will all be worth it because you'll be with the one you love. Best wishes to you both.

85karenb
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 6:19 pm

>82 gilroy: You're getting married? Congrats! Marriage is all right, if you like that sort of thing.

87Taphophile13
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 6:32 pm

88karenb
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 6:35 pm

SEO agency: https://www.librarything.com/author/kwikadvertisingsales (Note: this is the author, not a profile)
profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/KwikAdvertising

seven works already marked as spam by legallypuzzled

89karenb
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 6:35 pm

>87 Taphophile13: Thanks! I was just gonna look that up.

90karenb
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 10:26 pm

Profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/theshootinshack
author: https://www.librarything.com/author/timvenhaus
work: https://www.librarything.com/work/13724776/editions/96818395

Can we do anything about the author? IIRC we don't really delete authors if they're stranded through combining.

91lilithcat
huhtikuu 15, 2018, 11:00 pm

>90 karenb:

IIRC we don't really delete authors if they're stranded through combining.

There is no way we can delete an author. (I suppose staff can, but I don't know that they ever have.)

93Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 11:33 am

>92 2wonderY: I don't think I've ever been so happy about a spam report before, but it was really lovely to see that the accounts had already been suspended by the time I clicked on them. :-}

942wonderY
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 11:48 am

Yeah, whew! I gave up trying to flag all weekend. Just caught up on karenb 's work on the Great Spam Profile Hunt thread. There are a few profiles still lingering on posts

https://www.librarything.com/topic/289652#6446081

and

https://www.librarything.com/topic/289652#6447412

She's zoomed up the ranks with her get 'er dun attitude, eh?

952wonderY
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 11:52 am

>94 2wonderY: All gone now, except for one that seemed valid enough.

96karenb
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 2:39 pm

>95 2wonderY: Rats! Please let me know which one(s) aren't quite spam, or what you can recall of them.

>94 2wonderY: "She's zoomed up the ranks with her get 'er dun attitude, eh?"
Well, I do like puzzles, and spam hunting is interesting.

972wonderY
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 3:10 pm

>96 karenb: I was going to say this one is NOT Spam: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Shefalisingh

It's okay for members to use their work related urls on their profile pages. And people who work in SEO industries are surely allowed to be members here and say what they do.

But then, I noticed three recommendations. That's odd, I thought:

https://www.librarything.com/profile/Shefalisingh/recommendations/bymember

Look at the links at the ends of the comments!

98karenb
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 3:38 pm

>91 lilithcat: Well I think we might have a test case with this user.

profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/LivingModernFashion

They have added several spam works, which have spam authors and also spam tags. Example:

Work:
https://www.librarything.com/work/21095666/editions/151357649

Tag:
https://www.librarything.com/tag/FashionNuevo398EDaniaBeachBlvd378DaniaBeachFL33...

Author:
https://www.librarything.com/author/httpfashionnuevobran

(Still compiling the complete list for an email.)

99Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 4:18 pm

>98 karenb: No worries. It took a bit, but creature is now squished. Hooray for flags working again!

(I know, I know, I already said it, but it just makes me so happy to see it all work. It was hard to flag things over and over, and not have it take.)

100lilithcat
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 5:36 pm

Over-enthusiastic author:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/290182

I've left a comment on her profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/Lydia1888

101gilroy
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 16, 2018, 6:25 pm

102lilithcat
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 6:32 pm

>101 gilroy:

Wow, what a nice reply to your note! Too bad more authors don't react that way.

103Taphophile13
huhtikuu 16, 2018, 6:58 pm

I don't think this one was listed yet
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Mason45

he only catalogued one "book", an ad for hotels, which has already been suppressed as spam

1052wonderY
huhtikuu 17, 2018, 7:27 am

>104 karenb: I disagree. The work is not spam. The reviews are self-serving, but LT doesn't prohibit authors from reviewing their own books.

107gilroy
huhtikuu 17, 2018, 8:03 am

>105 2wonderY: Then you might want to vote no on the work spam vote, as it only needs two more for it to go to the spam graveyard.

108lilithcat
huhtikuu 17, 2018, 8:23 am

>104 karenb:

Why do you think it's spam? Is this not an actual book?

109Taphophile13
huhtikuu 17, 2018, 11:14 am

>108 lilithcat:
The book is not available on Amazon or WorldCat and it appears to be a website rather than an actual book.

From the book details page: "Learn japanese is a site which is all about online japanese learning. We provide descriptive and informative techniques while learning Japanese in an extensive way .we have various alphabetical sets like Hiragana ,katakana and many more"

1102wonderY
huhtikuu 17, 2018, 11:39 am

111karenb
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 17, 2018, 6:55 pm

>105 2wonderY: >108 lilithcat: >109 Taphophile13:

I agree that this case can be in the gray areas. It is fine to review one's own books. For me, it's the profile that tips the scale, with its three links. Also, the book has no info besides the title and the author, which seems awfully minimal.

On the other hand, I am extra skeptical this week, having looked through so many profiles in search of spam. I'll try to be more conservative, as yes it's more important to preserve (er, not certain what adjective to use) works than it is to mark them as spam by mistake.

112karenb
huhtikuu 17, 2018, 7:13 pm

I wonder, is there any way that LT staff could check to see if the same person created a profile and a work? I have no idea; it just occurred to me to ask. (Because staff already don't have enough to do! AS IF.)

113lilithcat
huhtikuu 17, 2018, 10:23 pm

>112 karenb:

I wonder, is there any way that LT staff could check to see if the same person created a profile and a work?

I'm not sure I see why that would be at all helpful. After all, a lot of authors join the site and are the only member to list their book(s), but that's perfectly permissible. So the fact that the same person created a profile and a work doesn't say anything about whether it's a spam work or spam account.

115karenb
huhtikuu 18, 2018, 4:28 am

>113 lilithcat:

So the fact that the same person created a profile and a work doesn't say anything about whether it's a spam work or spam account.

Indeed. I was thinking more when one piece is borderline spam, looking at the other piece could help clarify the matter. While this wouldn't help with >104 karenb:, it could help in other cases. Some newer spam seems less blatant and thus harder to detect.

1182wonderY
huhtikuu 19, 2018, 7:54 am

This supplements company is getting annoying
https://www.librarything.com/profile/robertrodgers

120Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 21, 2018, 12:42 pm

I think this may fall into the Enthusiastic Authors realm, but I have only enough skills in Espanol to communicate the most basic of messages, and even my Latin skills are too rusty for this one.

I noticed an item in the spam folder that didn't seem to belong, and looked more closely. I've removed it, and it appears to be a review of a book. Maybe. I note that MarthaJeanne has left a brief comment on the author's profile. I'd leave my normal message, but it's in English, and that would seem both rude and pointless.

Please do not flag any of this.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/290360#

http://www.librarything.com/groups/venezuelaescribe

http://www.librarything.com/profile/edrapecor

In addition, the author page seems terribly messed up.

http://www.librarything.com/author/cedgarrpeacuterez

(There's the suggestion of two authors with that name, and a disambiguation page, but I suspect it's the same person.)

Spam Fighters is probably (almost certainly) the wrong place for this, but I suspect it's the place most likely to catch the attention of someone who is willing to fix it, and (more importantly) may possess the language skills to do so.

122gilroy
huhtikuu 23, 2018, 8:12 am

https://www.librarything.com/profile/yaildx
Plus three posts in book talk.

(Bet we start to see more of these with Backpage taken down.)

1232wonderY
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 23, 2018, 11:03 am

1242wonderY
huhtikuu 24, 2018, 7:13 am

134lilithcat
huhtikuu 26, 2018, 8:18 am

>133 2wonderY:

RE: author/venue pictures - you might want to post that reminder in the .

135gilroy
huhtikuu 26, 2018, 8:28 am

>133 2wonderY: Some of those pictures have been under contentious vote since 2011!

1362wonderY
huhtikuu 26, 2018, 8:39 am

Yes. The first five will probably remain there forever. The site rules of copyright enforcement have changed in the meantime.

1372wonderY
huhtikuu 26, 2018, 8:41 am

1382wonderY
huhtikuu 26, 2018, 3:28 pm

>135 gilroy: Well, lookie-there. Progress!

139Taphophile13
huhtikuu 27, 2018, 12:12 pm

author looking for reviews
https://www.librarything.com/topic/290615#

I left note on profile (don't flag)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/J.W.Roan

140Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 27, 2018, 12:19 pm

>139 Taphophile13: If you left a note, it's gone now. I'm about to leave one, just to check on the process (so to speak).

ETA: I'll check back in an hour or so to see if it's still there.

141Taphophile13
huhtikuu 27, 2018, 12:22 pm

>140 Lyndatrue: Yes, I noticed that my message disappeared and their post has been transferred to their wall. I don't care if my note was deleted; it seems to have gotten the point across. It's better than when they message me back to argue that they aren't doing anything wrong.

142Taphophile13
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 27, 2018, 12:47 pm

>140 Lyndatrue: And s/he just posted this one
https://www.librarything.com/topic/290620# (join to post/flag)

And this one:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/290621#

also posted the same message in HobNob and Writers Brag groups. I guess it's okay there.

143gilroy
huhtikuu 27, 2018, 1:58 pm

>142 Taphophile13: If she's been given the same comment twice and continues to spam, doesn't that put grounds for flagging the profile now?

144Taphophile13
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 27, 2018, 2:02 pm

>143 gilroy: I tend to think so, yes.

ETA: gone!

145Lyndatrue
huhtikuu 27, 2018, 2:50 pm

>144 Taphophile13: (et al) That explains the deleted comment on my profile, by said author. When an account is suspended for cause, it seems to remove the profile comments as well. Okay by me, since it was probably justification of the behavior, rather than an apology...

147Taphophile13
huhtikuu 28, 2018, 11:06 am

"here to shamelessly plug" his book

http://www.librarything.com/topic/290549#6462211

leaving note on profile (http://www.librarything.com/profile/RobertAS1)

151Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 30, 2018, 1:10 am

153Taphophile13
huhtikuu 30, 2018, 4:36 pm

new author seeking reviews
https://www.librarything.com/topic/290751#

don't flag profile; I left a note
https://www.librarything.com/profile/rosesking

154MarthaJeanne
huhtikuu 30, 2018, 5:02 pm

155Taphophile13
huhtikuu 30, 2018, 6:37 pm

166lilithcat
toukokuu 8, 2018, 8:42 am

>165 2wonderY:

"Spinewise" is a great screen name for a book site! Too bad he's a spammer.

169karenb
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 9, 2018, 12:15 am

odd proflie for ebook, but it doesn't list the title or author of the book. Skeptic me thinks they're up to No Good.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/lostwaysebook32

ETA: The ebook itself wouldn't be a spam work, but this is surely a spam user.

170karenb
toukokuu 9, 2018, 12:40 am

1722wonderY
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 9, 2018, 7:58 am

>170 karenb: That's absolutely a Spam work.

Two questions
- Why would other members have any doubts about it?
- Does private membership shield Spam profiles?

I see my second question is answered.

175karenb
toukokuu 9, 2018, 12:54 pm

>172 2wonderY: "Why would other members have any doubts about it?"

>169 karenb: I meant that the book, if it were entered in LT, could be a real work. But it's only mentioned in the profile and doesn't exist in LT.

>170 karenb: Sorry, I was commenting, nothing else.

176Marissa_Doyle
toukokuu 9, 2018, 2:42 pm

>169 karenb: It's hard to say since the profile is gone. Maybe hold off on marking profiles as spam in future if you want to bring them up here. Now I'm all curious and can't see what gave you pause!

178karenb
toukokuu 9, 2018, 3:36 pm

>176 Marissa_Doyle: It didn't give me pause; those, I post in the Is This Spam? thread. Sorry that I haven't been clear on that.

181Taphophile13
toukokuu 10, 2018, 3:42 pm

182Taphophile13
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 10, 2018, 6:57 pm

plugging his books on Amazon
https://www.librarything.com/topic/291177#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/291178#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/291179#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/291180#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/291181#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/291182#

don't flag profile, I'll leave message
https://www.librarything.com/profile/CliffordBeck

ETA: Ok, I'm willing to be corrected on this. I'm not familiar with the E-book group. Is it another place where authors can advertise their books?

183lilithcat
toukokuu 10, 2018, 7:04 pm

>182 Taphophile13:

I'm not familiar with the E-book group. Is it another place where authors can advertise their books?

Not that I am aware of. It's not very active, but it appears to be a forum for talking about ebooks and letting others know where you can find them. Looking at a few of the threads, I do see flags on some that are blatant advertising for the poster's own books, so I'm guessing that's not welcome.

184gilroy
toukokuu 11, 2018, 5:30 am

>182 Taphophile13: Uh, no, that wasn't an approved group for advertising your own book, unless something was said and slipped past the spam killer group.

185Taphophile13
toukokuu 11, 2018, 11:58 am

>183 lilithcat:, >184 gilroy: Thanks for the info.

187Taphophile13
toukokuu 11, 2018, 6:28 pm

191lilithcat
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 14, 2018, 9:50 am

Honestly, I sometimes wonder if a screenshot and a report to the relevant bar authority would be worthwhile for stuff like https://www.librarything.com/profile/GuardianshipLaw2 and https://www.librarything.com/profile/trustattorney

192lilithcat
toukokuu 14, 2018, 6:30 pm

Author promotion: http://www.librarything.com/topic/291350

I've left the usual comment on her profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/JudyMoore7605

1942wonderY
toukokuu 15, 2018, 3:19 pm

Author spam

https://www.librarything.com/topic/290360

If someone who's got the correct language would leave a profile note, please

https://www.librarything.com/profile/edrapecor

Leaving the group he started alone, as it's stated purpose appears to meet the site guidelines.

195Lyndatrue
toukokuu 15, 2018, 3:28 pm

>194 2wonderY: I just left a message in English on his profile. I want to point out that MarthaJeanne had already left a message three weeks ago, so I suspect he knows the rules. If someone wants to undertake a translation of my message, feel free. His stated home is in Venezuela, so Spanish is the correct one.

202norabelle414
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 16, 2018, 11:12 am

Spam published reviews on "1984":
http://www.librarything.com/profile/benvellani (this account has a profile badge for adding published reviews, YIKES)
http://www.librarything.com/profile/lucysmith22

204norabelle414
toukokuu 16, 2018, 11:37 am

Should I be deleting these published reviews as well, or is having them disappear when the spammer is removed sufficient?

206karenb
toukokuu 17, 2018, 2:18 pm

work: https://www.librarything.com/work/10929488 -- does not exist on relevant site even as a plan, much less a book

207gilroy
toukokuu 17, 2018, 4:02 pm

https://www.librarything.com/topic/291463
Author Spam. Already left note on profile.

208karenb
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 18, 2018, 1:42 am

four works from spam user who links to each of the four subjects (please do not mark user as spam, yet):

computer shops: https://www.librarything.com/work/12108118
computer technician: https://www.librarything.com/work/12108144
PC store: https://www.librarything.com/work/12108130
a laptop: https://www.librarything.com/work/12108118

This user (andreagrace) is not to be confused with the author assigned to the works (graceandrea), who has real works in addition to these fake ones.

210Lyndatrue
toukokuu 17, 2018, 5:52 pm

>208 karenb: You had no space on the last one (although I suppose folks are smart enough to figure it out).

https://www.librarything.com/work/12108118

I flagged the profile. I'm heartless. She's also from 2012, and I'm sure long gone.

213karenb
toukokuu 18, 2018, 1:43 am

>210 Lyndatrue: Ah! Fixed.
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure the works were flagged first. Thanks!

And now, a bedbugs "pamphlet," with cover apparently adapted from a murder mystery (dead human! I had no idea that bedbugs could kill us): https://www.librarything.com/work/18418275/134555452

2142wonderY
toukokuu 18, 2018, 5:10 am

>213 karenb:. Those who are voting No, take a look at the review.

215Jarandel
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 18, 2018, 5:17 am

>214 2wonderY: I voted yes but technically the item does exist on Amazon and could be added to a library at least for now, even if it is obviously a scamphlet with another SEO/spammy review over there.

216gilroy
toukokuu 18, 2018, 5:32 am

>214 2wonderY: The review then is flaggable, but the pamphlet is not, as it does come up in an amazon search... Much as I'd love to flag it all to oblivion.

217karenb
toukokuu 18, 2018, 11:01 am

>216 gilroy: OK, I admit that I did not check Amazon to verify the pamphlet's existence, assuming from the review that it was fake. I'm sorry; I'll remember to do that next time.

218gilroy
toukokuu 18, 2018, 11:55 am

>217 karenb: No problem. Maybe we'll go back and flag it to oblivion in a week or two when Amazon changes their mind on the pamphlet. :)

220Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 18, 2018, 12:49 pm

>219 Taphophile13: You know, that's the sort of thing I might alert staff to, rather than just flagging. I'm about to flag all three profiles of the group, listed below.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/frankie122
http://www.librarything.com/profile/tywan (please note he's a member of two other, legitimate groups, and may be posting there as well)
http://www.librarything.com/profile/tyrone12

ETA: This seems like a repeat performance by "tywan" (who I'm beginning to really dislike).

221Taphophile13
toukokuu 18, 2018, 1:01 pm

>220 Lyndatrue: The profiles have already been suspended although the group is still present with three flags.

222gilroy
toukokuu 18, 2018, 3:28 pm

>219 Taphophile13: >220 Lyndatrue: Those little brats again? Already killed two of their groups and told Lorranan about them.

224karenb
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 19, 2018, 11:45 pm

attendance software system -- not on Amazon or Worldcat (nor is the author)

work: https://www.librarything.com/work/15449378/reviews/113647262

user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/corbinspicer4

226karenb
toukokuu 20, 2018, 3:58 pm

227Lyndatrue
toukokuu 21, 2018, 1:35 am

I have a suspicion about this one...

http://www.librarything.com/topic/291652
http://www.librarything.com/profile/clipping_photos

Currently, it's just borderline, but I'm betting it won't be for long.

(There's also this, which I saw first.)

http://www.librarything.com/topic/291650

2282wonderY
toukokuu 21, 2018, 4:03 pm

>215 Jarandel: et al

Amazon has been Spammed before. I could show you tons.

230Taphophile13
toukokuu 21, 2018, 9:12 pm

Touting his honorable mention at book festival:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/291682#

Don't flag profile:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/DANIELCURZON
I left a message for him.

I found this one waiting to be squashed in the "Spam?" threads so even long time members can run afoul of the algorithm. Doesn't hurt to check there once in a while.

231Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 1:27 am

My spider sense is burning my brain on these two (which I strongly believe are the same person, or at least people who know each other).

http://www.librarything.com/topic/291687
http://www.librarything.com/profile/MarthaTucker

http://www.librarything.com/topic/291686
http://www.librarything.com/profile/DenasBeat

Those two wretched, all caps random nonsense topics were posted ten minutes apart. Note that they have exactly the same two books in their respective libraries.

I've already had a long day, and right now, I just want to get out the bug spray and be done with these two. I will leave it to others to decide what to do (if anything). I just think it's about to lead in to something...

ETA: I'm apparently not alone. The DenasBeat topic is gone, already, and the account's suspended.

232Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 11:04 am

...and they're back. Here's the topic. I'll be back with profiles in a bit.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/291706#

Only four of them, and none actually containing the tyan (or whatever it was) creature.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/loso_woods
http://www.librarything.com/profile/F1Emoney
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jahsavage
http://www.librarything.com/profile/monkey7

The jahsavage one has four books, so it'll be tougher to flag.

Ugh. It just keeps getting worse. Here's the group.

http://www.librarything.com/groups/10bookstoreadforthem

233Lyndatrue
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 11:50 am

>232 Lyndatrue: In addition, there's this one (most of the above have been suspended, but the group needs flagging).

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Gabby12345
http://www.librarything.com/profile/stacks12 (I note he left his "real" name of tywan rodriguez)

http://www.librarything.com/groups/10bookstoreadforthem

There is also a private group, now.

http://www.librarything.com/groups/meanddavid

I don't know that I'd normally care, but these creatures seem to have a lot of free time.

236Yung_SpartanF1
toukokuu 22, 2018, 11:28 am

Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.

237Taphophile13
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 1:15 pm

new member managed to import, I assume, 4,574 books with over 4500 reviews on a free account.
only Google translated one of them and it was for diploma sample certificates.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/yonghux001

Although he does have some real books in his library, a review tranlates as:
Where to do a fake diploma QQ23123555 Where to do a fake diploma QQ23123555 Where to do a fake diploma QQ23123555 Where to do a fake diploma QQ23123555 Where to do a fake diploma QQ23123555 Where to do a fake diploma QQ23123555 Where to leave a fake certificate QQ23123555 Where The fake graduation certificate QQ23123555 Where to leave the fake diploma QQ23123555 Where to do leave graduation certificate QQ23123555 Where to leave the false certificate QQ23123555 Where to do leave graduation certificate QQ23123555 Where to do leave the graduation certificate QQ23123555 Where to do leave graduation certificate QQ23123555 Where to do The fake graduation certificate QQ23123555 Where to do a false graduation certificate QQ23123555

238jnwelch
toukokuu 22, 2018, 1:27 pm

>236 Yung_SpartanF1: Spamming the spam reporting thread takes a lot of chutzpah.

239daffyducc
toukokuu 22, 2018, 1:38 pm

Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.

240daffyducc
toukokuu 22, 2018, 1:38 pm

Tämä käyttäjä on poistettu roskaamisen vuoksi.

241Marissa_Doyle
toukokuu 22, 2018, 1:38 pm

>237 Taphophile13: When you look at the "members with your books" in that profile the first entry was a similar name and number (yonghux200, I think it was) with 8000+ books--but the 001 profile is gone now so it can't be examined as well.

242Lyndatrue
toukokuu 22, 2018, 2:08 pm

I have to admit that this is all starting to beat me down. I'm not sure what the solution is, here, other than changing the rules on new users, and who can make groups, and other restrictive things that will all server to make LT less than it is.

Yet again, the tragedy of the commons rears its ugly head.

243gilroy
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 2:57 pm

>242 Lyndatrue: The only other thing is TPTB start blocking IP addresses of the culprits, since they seem to be a group. Still saying they're underage, but it's possible they're 13 and have the mentality of a 10 year old.

ETA: Any reason to believe https://www.librarything.com/profile/Addison_Books isn't also part of the crew?

244norabelle414
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 3:32 pm

I'm more of an opinion that we're being overly harsh. Any messages using inappropriate language should certainly be flagged to oblivion, and any account continuing to do so should be flagged, but I don't think creating a private group for talking to one's friends is inherently against the terms of service. (Though now that all the profiles are removed, it is impossible for me to tell what accounts were guilty of what.)

Has anyone explained to any of these people why they keep being removed? I tried to leave a profile message for one but the account was removed before I could post.

>243 gilroy: I don't see what they've done wrong? They created a redundant group but people do that all the time and that's not a flaggable offense.

245lilithcat
Muokkaaja: toukokuu 22, 2018, 3:50 pm

This thread is getting too long and hard to load. Continuing it elsewhere: http://www.librarything.com/topic/291724
Tämä viestiketju jatkuu täällä: Spam reporting thread #64.