Spam reporting thread #58

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Spam reporting thread #58

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Muokkaaja: syyskuu 19, 2017, 8:49 am


Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

heinäkuu 12, 2017, 3:42 am


heinäkuu 12, 2017, 3:42 am

Of course, when I add a new spam-fighting technique, we get no new spam. Grumble.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 12, 2017, 7:53 am

>3 timspalding: D'you think they could sense the new trap/wall? Is it flashy like Indiana Jones?

heinäkuu 12, 2017, 4:28 pm

I expected a similar assault today beginning the same time as yesterday. Nothing yet. Perhaps Tim's trap is perfect.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 12, 2017, 4:55 pm

heinäkuu 12, 2017, 4:55 pm

Yes, but suppression is mighty quick, eh?

heinäkuu 12, 2017, 5:50 pm

>9 2wonderY: Suppression is quick except for the profile in >6 norabelle414: which is totally weird.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 12, 2017, 9:50 pm is already in the Spam? folder and has three topics there but showed up in Talk.

another one just showed up

Okay, all gone now.

heinäkuu 14, 2017, 12:19 am

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 14, 2017, 3:57 am

>13 Taphophile13: Those three books have been published by Lulu as eBooks.

Now why anyone would want to pay $9.29 for a 21 page pdf (published on 2017-07-04) is beyond me. But they do exist as books.

"Ever wandered what are the secrets that keep the average from being a millionaire?"

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 14, 2017, 7:04 am

Author spam that has stuck around quite a while. Don't flag

Gone now. Thanks.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 14, 2017, 8:55 am

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 14, 2017, 2:59 pm

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 14, 2017, 4:14 pm

>17 Taphophile13: That one is gone. Current one is

Also gone.

heinäkuu 15, 2017, 11:49 am

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 15, 2017, 3:14 pm

I'm considering flagging the profile, and I'm about to leave a message on it.

There's three more of these in the group:

(I'll be back with those in a bit, but first, the profile note.)

ETA: As promised:

1 -
2 -
3 -

heinäkuu 15, 2017, 3:20 pm

>21 Lyndatrue: I also wonder if there were more of these (there's the one group on the profile, but that doesn't mean much).

heinäkuu 15, 2017, 3:45 pm

A Topic and the profile were caught by the spam filter.

heinäkuu 15, 2017, 6:05 pm

Crap, I forgot to post the profile for >21 Lyndatrue:

No flagging, please, for first time, no matter how REALLY annoying.

heinäkuu 16, 2017, 7:27 am

>24 Lyndatrue: Can I ask why we're not flagging this person into oblivion? They aren't the author of the only book cataloged. They only seem to be pushing hits to their review site. And all they did was throw up posts related to said site.

This doesn't even feel like a publisher.

heinäkuu 16, 2017, 7:53 am

>25 gilroy: I will certainly flag the profile if there is another spam message. If there isn't, we don't need to.

heinäkuu 16, 2017, 2:32 pm

>25 gilroy: We aren't flagging (no matter how much we want to) because it's a slippery slope. I know that seems unfair, but we usually warn, and then watch. Most of these are drive by types in any case, and I doubt much that flagging them would make a difference. Every once in a (very rare) while, someone apologizes, and then follows the rules, and even sticks around.

I'd rather flag them, yes, but I still understand and agree with the policy that everyone gets a pass first time out. Believe me, this one was just making me hope that I'd be ignored, but it quit. On the other hand, the account's suspended in any case, and my guess is that the crap over in the group was what got it flagged.

No loss, not in my world.

heinäkuu 16, 2017, 10:02 pm

>27 Lyndatrue: So we're treating review sites like authors and publishers now... That's news to me. Good to know.

heinäkuu 16, 2017, 10:57 pm

Hey, catch us up—the user is a review site? What's the evidence? They should get a warning from staff, I think, and then we should start crawling through all the data to see if they've already been working at it.

Getting Loranne into this too.

heinäkuu 18, 2017, 9:19 am

I'm flagging the topic

not sure if the profile warrants flagging

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 18, 2017, 9:22 am

>32 2wonderY: All gone.

heinäkuu 18, 2017, 9:24 am

>32 2wonderY:

That's funny. Just asked about that on the other thread:

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 18, 2017, 2:00 pm

This one's going to be tough to get rid of. I'm running off, but someone needs to invoke staff on it.

There's four "works" with "reviews" there (that tends to keep it from being suspended).

Only one topic I can see:

ETA: Amazing. Gone, and suspension done as well. :-}

heinäkuu 19, 2017, 1:19 pm

is in the Spam folder, and he's been a baaad boy.

heinäkuu 19, 2017, 2:01 pm

same for this guy:

Say that user name three times fast.

heinäkuu 19, 2017, 8:44 pm

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 20, 2017, 6:05 am

>43 wcarter:

The two topics are now gone, but it is always important with commercial spam to also flag the profile. In fact, getting rid of the profile also gets rid of the messages, but not vice versa.

ETA Profile gone, too.

heinäkuu 20, 2017, 11:47 am

>45 torontoc: Sent you a message on your profile. :-}

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 21, 2017, 11:05 am

heinäkuu 21, 2017, 11:05 am

>49 Lyndatrue: Gone. I could not load that topic fully. It never included enough to flag it.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 24, 2017, 10:26 am

Not much we can do about it, but yet another new author whose topic won't disappear because he made two messages. Messages are gone.

(Author profile

heinäkuu 24, 2017, 10:47 am

>53 MarthaJeanne: This one showed up on the "Is this Spam?" thread earlier.

heinäkuu 24, 2017, 10:48 am

>54 gilroy: Yes, but without the link to the topic.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 25, 2017, 9:18 am

Gone before I got the other links in.

heinäkuu 26, 2017, 9:01 am

Too many threads to list.
They've spammed multiple places about a survey for social networks. And they give an email address only for contact. I'm calling this one scam of the highest degree...

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 26, 2017, 1:46 pm

>61 amanda4242: I'm normally happy to kill off profiles, but (unless there's a topic or so that goes along with this which you didn't post) I don't see anything on the profile.

ETA: Well, crap. I was coming back to post the topics, but they're already gone (and the profile's suspended, so it's all fixed).

heinäkuu 26, 2017, 1:50 pm

>62 Lyndatrue: They started a couple of threads in Book Talk for payday loans. I didn't add them because my computer is being super slow this morning.

heinäkuu 26, 2017, 1:52 pm

>63 amanda4242: Better to give the topics. We can get to the profiles from there, but not the other way, and I, for one, won't flag if I don't see the spam.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 28, 2017, 12:26 pm

It's going to be a tough one, because they added "works" in addition.

I'll be danged. Fast work, whatever it was. All gone.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 29, 2017, 8:22 am

Commercial / SEO spam

Edit : Already gone.

heinäkuu 29, 2017, 8:47 am

heinäkuu 31, 2017, 1:51 am

Promoting an illegal downloader for people to steal content from sites that themselves are illegally hosting works. This seems to be the only thing the account has done.

heinäkuu 31, 2017, 9:18 am

heinäkuu 31, 2017, 9:25 am

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 31, 2017, 3:49 pm

Spanish-speaking author just joined and posted about his book:

Will someone fluent in Spanish please post a note on his/her profile"

(I fished the post out of the Spam folder; it was there presumably because of the weblink in the post.)

heinäkuu 31, 2017, 3:54 pm

>82 lesmel: Ah! I can handle an English speaker.

elokuu 1, 2017, 2:43 pm

just joined to offer to sell books for a friend

don't flag profile

elokuu 4, 2017, 5:47 am

Muokkaaja: elokuu 4, 2017, 5:51 am

Muokkaaja: elokuu 5, 2017, 12:32 pm

Muokkaaja: elokuu 5, 2017, 2:23 pm

elokuu 7, 2017, 11:55 am

>100 gilroy:

He should be flagged just for writing "very unique".

elokuu 8, 2017, 12:47 pm

Somehow, I doubt that the proceeds from this guy's book are going to make much of a difference in the lives of librarians.

elokuu 9, 2017, 8:11 pm

Very overzealous. Another thread.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 9, 2017, 8:20 pm

>110 davidgn: Yep. I left the traditional comment on the profile.

ETA: Oh, lordy. Go read the profile, but set down whatever you're drinking first. Yeah, I'm not nice, but seriously?

elokuu 9, 2017, 10:12 pm

>112 Taphophile13: et al

In addition, I got a "reply" to my canned message. I'm off to flag the profile.

elokuu 10, 2017, 5:44 am

>109 davidgn: Based on the profile, I'm thinking he is trying English but it's like the 10th language and he really doesn't use it much at all.

elokuu 10, 2017, 5:39 pm

elokuu 11, 2017, 1:05 pm

Sometimes I'm tempted to make a web site that tells new authors NOT to do this. This one's more polite than most. (don't flag the profile, and I've left the standard note).

elokuu 11, 2017, 1:42 pm

>117 Lyndatrue: Looks like Lorannen left a note too. :)

elokuu 16, 2017, 4:29 pm
'Group website' is a website for the group creator's book.

Don't flag

elokuu 16, 2017, 4:56 pm

elokuu 16, 2017, 5:24 pm

>129 Taphophile13: posted 10 minutes after I posted here. Gone now.

elokuu 17, 2017, 11:28 am

new group :

Google translate from Finnish:
Combination Loan During the summer, money is spent more than normal and, for example, for foreign travel it is convenient to use a credit card for shopping. The need for temporary money should be easily taken out of a small instant bucket, but the interest rates are usually quite high.

elokuu 17, 2017, 11:03 pm

a software publishing, consultancy and supply co.

they also set up their address as a venue — I don't know how to flag that

elokuu 17, 2017, 11:21 pm

Odd, there doesn't appear to be an actual venue page for that location. If there were, it could simply be deleted. (There is, as far a I know, no way to flag a venue.)

elokuu 21, 2017, 5:29 pm

Enthusiastic author (I've already left a note): (please don't flag)

elokuu 21, 2017, 5:32 pm

>143 Taphophile13: Yeah, I called that one this morning when I saw his profile.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 21, 2017, 7:16 pm

Muokkaaja: elokuu 21, 2017, 8:47 pm

spam in 75 books Read group from

oops- all threads with spam gone!

elokuu 22, 2017, 8:42 pm

elokuu 23, 2017, 8:28 am

I think these are Type 2 (teachable moments) but I'm not sure:

The author gave both of her own books five stars, but they're not actually *reviews* of the books.

elokuu 23, 2017, 8:31 am

>152 2wonderY:

"What can I say?" is definitely not a review. The other one, however, is. Yes, I know it looks like nothing more than a plot summary, but that's a review on LT.

elokuu 24, 2017, 7:20 am

>153 2wonderY: Thanks for explaining.

elokuu 24, 2017, 7:50 am
About my library
Thousands of people suffer from addiction to drugs and need help to become sober. Many of those who are addicted do not want to go into a brick and mortar drug addiction treatment and rehabilitation program but would consider getting treatment on a virtual level. Online drug rehab provides relapse prevention, support, and counseling in a virtual atmosphere where help can be received from anywhere that a computer and internet connection is available. In many cases, the support is offered 24 hours a day, 7 days a week similar to an inpatient treatment program and in most cases, the cost of online drug rehab is significantly less than other methods of treatment due largely in part to the decreased overhead that comes with these programs.

elokuu 24, 2017, 7:53 am

>155 Taphophile13: Nice stock photo for the rehab profile...

elokuu 24, 2017, 7:57 am

>156 Lyndatrue: Right. I'm beginning to be able to spot them from a mile away.

elokuu 24, 2017, 11:30 pm

oil & gas equipment and service

elokuu 26, 2017, 12:33 am

The all caps alone make me want to flag, but the offer to sell books seems worthy. (profile)

I'm trying to come up with a note that applies here. Not an author, not a publisher, but it still seems to fly against the rules. The only thing funny (to me) is the request for interested parties to send email, and there's no email address given. I haven't flagged the profile (because I can't come up with a good LT reason), but I'd like to. Please flag the topic, so it'll disappear.

elokuu 26, 2017, 1:36 pm

root canals

the link invites you to make an appointment

Muokkaaja: elokuu 26, 2017, 5:00 pm

New member has started two threads about the subject of his books (not flaggable)

and has now added touchstones for his books to the second post.

Don't flag the profile. Messages have been left for him.

elokuu 26, 2017, 9:31 pm

>164 gilroy:

He appear to have ignored your comment on his profile:

elokuu 27, 2017, 1:00 pm

This looks like a type 2 teachable maybe.
Entries as works which appear to be author entries. Not all of the works tagged are concerned, however the vast majority are owned by one private member. &

elokuu 27, 2017, 3:44 pm

>169 gilroy: What is spammy about that?

Entering authors as works is silly, but it isn't spam.

elokuu 27, 2017, 6:08 pm

>169 gilroy: Um, the first tag is used by seven people, the second tag is by nine people. You're saying all these long standing members are now spammers for entering the author as a database item and flaggable?

Sorry, Tim says you can catalog anything as long as you aren't actively selling or trying to redirect to another website to sell...

Muokkaaja: elokuu 28, 2017, 9:30 am

This is spam. A link to an escort site stuck in a topic from 2012.

And gone.

elokuu 28, 2017, 11:55 am

It's not the tags themselves that I was asking about, but the instances, for example or I realise I should have made that clearer. There are clearly legitimate users of the same tag

My query was due to the fact that the entries do not refer to an item (whatever the nature) but are an author reference on an author entry providing no additional information. list of what isn't spam refers in every case to something concrete and extant.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 28, 2017, 12:21 pm

Kinda related to an author posting about a book, eh?
I wouldn't flag the new member

I'll leave a message.

perhaps I should have posted this in the Is this Spam? thread

elokuu 28, 2017, 12:26 pm

>174 2wonderY: Topic needs one more flag.

I'm trying to understand why I *shouldn't* flag the poster, though. Seems pretty deserving.

elokuu 28, 2017, 1:01 pm

>173 gilroy: Even those are still legit.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 29, 2017, 7:39 am

>178 2wonderY:, yeah, I can't figure out if that was posted to the wrong group or the wrong web site. It's mostly written well but I think it's advertising.

Edit: all gone

elokuu 29, 2017, 7:39 am

>178 2wonderY: Book, booking, so this is a travel site now? We get to go physical places? :)

elokuu 29, 2017, 7:40 am

I called it quaint, but it was also sophisticated. Written, I think, to miss being identified as spam.

elokuu 29, 2017, 7:43 am

>180 Taphophile13: Hey, once matter transmitters are commercially available, I see LT members on board early.

This is the line I enjoyed the most:
" Asia’s largest fairy is located here and trust me the experience was quite memorable."

elokuu 29, 2017, 7:54 am

>182 Marissa_Doyle:, didn't see that! lol

elokuu 30, 2017, 6:49 am

elokuu 30, 2017, 10:14 am

Muokkaaja: elokuu 30, 2017, 10:19 am

elokuu 30, 2017, 10:57 am

>189 Taphophile13: >190 Taphophile13:
Anyone noted the profile yet? If not I will.

elokuu 30, 2017, 10:58 am

>190 Taphophile13:, at least he hasn't recommended it anywhere yet, those recommendations are on his work's page to recommend others.

elokuu 30, 2017, 11:15 am

I removed the book description he added. It was a marketer's wet dream.

syyskuu 1, 2017, 9:28 am

Hallowe'en supplies (already?!):

syyskuu 5, 2017, 4:46 pm

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 7, 2017, 4:59 am

syyskuu 8, 2017, 10:40 pm

syyskuu 9, 2017, 4:33 pm

mobile plans, router offers, reviews, SIM home delivery

syyskuu 11, 2017, 7:19 am
the Spam is in the work review -

So both profile and work need flagged.

syyskuu 11, 2017, 7:27 pm

webzine that defines trends in every aspect that touches your life.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 12, 2017, 6:47 pm

Truth in advertising?

Real name: Healthkart Scam \if you say so, I'm not going to argue\
yummy chewable gummies are easy for your tummy to digest

syyskuu 12, 2017, 6:47 pm

syyskuu 13, 2017, 5:28 pm

provider of business management solution s
ERP software , CRM software ,inventory Management

content writer and marketer, writing blogs, also provides technical support for businesses of all sizes.
Links to domain registration site

syyskuu 14, 2017, 11:34 am

second spammer in >212 lesmel: still active

syyskuu 14, 2017, 11:38 am

>214 Taphophile13: Fixed it for you. :-}

syyskuu 14, 2017, 11:49 am

syyskuu 15, 2017, 9:02 am

Huh. Two and a half months after I left the usual spiel about author promotion, I got a flounce comment about them not being here any more...


syyskuu 16, 2017, 10:13 pm

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syyskuu 19, 2017, 8:50 am

This thread is getting long and hard to load, so I'm continuing it here:

syyskuu 19, 2017, 1:57 pm

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