Spam reporting thread #51

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Spam reporting thread #51

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Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 23, 2016, 7:43 pm


Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

heinäkuu 23, 2016, 5:35 am

>1 lilithcat: You've lost the hyperlink in "here" in the last sentence.

heinäkuu 23, 2016, 10:49 am

heinäkuu 23, 2016, 7:01 pm

>7 davidgn: Anyone leave a comment on their profile?

heinäkuu 23, 2016, 7:44 pm

>3 anglemark:

Thanks, fixed now!

heinäkuu 23, 2016, 7:45 pm

>7 davidgn:, >8 gilroy:

I have now done so.

heinäkuu 24, 2016, 11:09 am

heinäkuu 24, 2016, 11:22 am

>11 davidgn: I left a message on his profile page.

heinäkuu 25, 2016, 2:17 pm

>19 lilithcat: I guess I figured if the group went, the topic went with...

heinäkuu 25, 2016, 2:36 pm

>20 gilroy:

It should, but I guess I'm a belt-and-suspenders spamfighter!

heinäkuu 26, 2016, 8:07 am

heinäkuu 26, 2016, 9:09 am

>26 rybie2: That profile really needs to be flagged, which would at least help with the works (while we're awaiting Loranne's rescue).

For ease of clicking, here it is again:

135 separate works, all spam. :-{

heinäkuu 26, 2016, 10:51 am

>27 Lyndatrue: Yeah, I flagged the profile when I flagged the spam works. Those are all gone now, so I'm surprised the profile is still live, assuming at least 5 (including 4 who voted on the spam works) also flagged the profile.

heinäkuu 26, 2016, 10:53 am

>28 rybie2: Not so sure about the spam works flagging, since most of the "reviews" are still live. I'd go through and flag them one at a time, but I keep hoping that staff will show up and render that unnecessary.

heinäkuu 26, 2016, 11:04 am

>29 Lyndatrue: The reviews will go away when the spammer is removed, or at least that's what I've seen happen.

And on another spam fighter topic, I've noticed there are lots of suppressed spam works (having met the vote requirements) with active spam accounts that can still spam us all... in other words, the spammer profiles are still alive and kicking because the member who flagged the spam works didn't flag the spammer. Many times I wait to flag the spammer until after voting is complete because seeing the account profile is often helpful in voting. And in those cases, I bookmark the spammer profile and go back to flag it once I see the work(s) have enough votes to be removed.

heinäkuu 26, 2016, 11:21 am

>26 rybie2: Thanks for the heads-up! Something in our flagging > provisional spam system appears to be off. That one should definitely have been gone before now, but I've got it taken care of. Thanks to you all for cleaning up the spam works!

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 27, 2016, 12:18 am

Ugh. I just saw a link on Marni Nixon's page (she'd recently passed away, and I was startled to see it updated.). It said "Official Site" as the link. Now, being the cynical old fart that I am, I looked at what the link was. Yepper. Spam. Morons. Yes, deleted. I'm going to start making a practice of looking closely at links for authors, to make sure there aren't more surprises like that.

Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 27, 2016, 6:50 pm

Yep. Already left a note on the profile. Someone might want to mention that book covers for profiles are not really welcomed, either.

ETA: Topic is already gone.

heinäkuu 27, 2016, 7:27 pm

>41 Lyndatrue:

If by "book covers for profiles" you are referring to author pages, then, yes, those are are not only not welcome, they are flaggable.

But if you are referring to an author's personal profile, it's perfectly fine to use book covers (unless, of course, they're X-rated, which is a TOS violation).

heinäkuu 27, 2016, 7:36 pm

To LT staff members:

Could someone clean out all the quick links marked for deletion here?

I check these quicklinks periodically for spam, duplicates, etc., but ordinary members can't delete them, so I just put the bad ones under the "delete me" heading. Jeremy used to delete them back in the day, but I don't think anyone's been checking this page in a long time.

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 12:19 am

>42 lilithcat: I understand that the cover in question wasn't flaggable. It was just another nail in the coffin, so to speak. I'm always a bit saddened by people that are drive by folks, since I am pretty sure that we won't see this author again. There are a few out there on LT that are strong contributing members, and just happen to be authors as well.

I do gently point out that I left the standard comment on the profile, and the snippy comment here (and not there).

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 10:42 am

>47 lesmel: User already dead. Just waiting for the threads to die.

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 10:59 am

>48 gilroy: The user was still posting when I posted that.

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 11:09 am

>49 lesmel: *sigh* Everyone is misreading me today.
That was simply a note to say that the guy was dead.

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 11:15 am

>50 gilroy: *pats you on head* It's ok. Want a cookie? Maybe some tea?

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 11:30 am

>51 lesmel: Don't be rude.

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 12:50 pm

>52 gilroy: I wasn't meaning to be. :(

heinäkuu 28, 2016, 1:20 pm

>43 rsterling: Thank you for that! Definitely got missed in the shuffle at some point—I don't think I've ever seen that page. Tidying them up now.

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heinäkuu 29, 2016, 4:01 pm

>54 lorannen: lorannen: Thanks!

heinäkuu 30, 2016, 6:45 pm

Office of US diploma Diploma (Q / micro 744,043,126) handle UCLA UCLA diploma diploma transcript of qualifications California Los Angeles
Plus about 20 spam works. Translation of the works is above, though it changes based on the school.

elokuu 1, 2016, 11:59 pm

Enthusiastic author. I'm rather amazed, since the account's from 2007, and the post is rather offhand, but still...

I'm leaving a note on the profile as well.

elokuu 2, 2016, 3:57 am

>63 Lyndatrue:

I'm not hugely surprised. A lot of authors seem to think that "recommend a book about . . . " is license to recommend their own.

elokuu 4, 2016, 9:33 am

elokuu 5, 2016, 12:57 pm

Normally, I'd ignore this, but I believe I've seen this profile post before. It also says, right on the profile, that "I promote books." Yes, yes she does. I'm flagging the topic. If it didn't have the link to the author's site, I'd have probably just ignore it. (standard caveats apply, no flagging the profile, etc etc)

I have not (yet) left a message on the profile.

elokuu 6, 2016, 7:39 am

Multiple spam works entered by each, already flagged and gone, but these members' accounts still remain.

elokuu 6, 2016, 3:59 pm

Chinese Diploma spammer, or whatever that is. 247 entries, all flagged. But I haven't flagged the profile, so that the "reviews" can stand during voting.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 6, 2016, 6:52 pm

>83 starcat: I thought that reviews and works vanished along with the user when suspended.

In addition, there are 250 reviews, and 251 works (the first entry didn't get a "review").

elokuu 6, 2016, 7:34 pm

Voting for spam works mentioned in >83 starcat: is complete, so folks should now pile on the flags for the spam profile.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 6, 2016, 9:06 pm

Still needs more flags. The profile is not yet suspended.

elokuu 6, 2016, 11:00 pm

>86 Lyndatrue: that profile is still up

elokuu 7, 2016, 12:01 am

>86 Lyndatrue: >87 Taphophile13: Grrr, things must be broken again. I see this all the time with spam profiles that have multiple spam entries. I'll leave Loranne a comment and link to this.

elokuu 7, 2016, 2:10 am

>84 Lyndatrue: Messages disappear, but I don't think works do.

elokuu 8, 2016, 4:01 am

A legit member answered a message in the spam area, and should NOT be flagged, although I would rather not save the topic.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 8, 2016, 9:34 am

>88 rybie2: Got that one! Thanks for the note!

ETA: The reason this one didn't get flagged down appears to have been all the (spam) works they added to the account. The provisional spam system takes into account whether or not the account has books in it. I'm talking to Tim about whether there's any way we can track if books that are added are or are not spam, and get the account zapped accordingly.

Note: I've temporarily reactivated the account while we look into this, so if you see it back up and running for a moment, don't panic!

elokuu 11, 2016, 2:05 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 11, 2016, 12:02 pm

Author advertising:

ETA: I've left a note on her profile.

elokuu 12, 2016, 12:45 pm

I just wanted to give our valiant Spam Fighters a quick heads-up: I'll be out of the office all of next week, and Kristi will be keeping an eye on things and holding down the fort in my absence. So, if something comes up that needs staff attention, please direct messages to:

or email:

Muokkaaja: elokuu 12, 2016, 10:28 pm

Just in case:

ETA: All fixed.

I really love the new system, which seems to work better (sure, there's rare cases, but it's such an improvement over the battles we were fighting before).

Muokkaaja: elokuu 14, 2016, 12:33 pm
Member already gone, as he tried a topic in Book Talk as well.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 15, 2016, 9:08 pm

Just in case:

No worries. Topics still there, but account already flagged, and those topics will be gone in a minute.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 15, 2016, 11:59 pm

You mean bookstore spam(-esque activity). City Lights is one of the most important independent bookstores in the U.S. Be VERY gentle.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 16, 2016, 12:02 am

It's still spam.

They have also been members for a long time, so should know better. Probably a new staff member.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 16, 2016, 10:20 pm

Fast moving (already many topics)

Whew. Already stopped. Off to Hades for gasdfasfa01.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 17, 2016, 10:11 pm

Okay, this one's going to be strange. The profile is already in Limbo, and on the verge of being tombstoned, but I noticed that there was an associated group. That group may keep the profile from being tombstoned (nope, gone). I've flagged the group just in case (and the profile, to help it on the way to oblivion).

ETA: All gone now. I really love the new system. I really really do.

elokuu 17, 2016, 11:23 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

elokuu 17, 2016, 11:24 pm

elokuu 17, 2016, 11:52 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 18, 2016, 12:20 am

I don't know either. For the time being, I cleared the spammed fields and spam-flagged the work. Only one user has the work It's unclear to me what's going on, though -- apart from the fact that suspended users still seem to be spamming from the grave. (I noticed the Central African Republic Local venue spammer at it again about a week or so back, but since I already called attention to that I assumed that was already on staff radar).

ETA: OK, this was a legit work added by a legit user, but the suspended spammer has learned how to use CK (OH SHIT, THEY'RE ADAPTING! :-p) and added a canonical spam title.

elokuu 19, 2016, 10:13 am

Muokkaaja: elokuu 19, 2016, 10:59 am

>126 Jarandel: Profile for author

Doesn't seem very clever, since there's a second post in the same topic, by the same author.

I posted on the profile, but I'd suspect it's a waste of time (in this case).

elokuu 19, 2016, 1:27 pm

>127 Lyndatrue: Sam99 is probably about to do this again.

Currently no links, but I'm betting the next response to his comment is yet another link to the book. If it is, I'm going to flag the profile (because I'm heartless).

Muokkaaja: elokuu 19, 2016, 9:26 pm

Muokkaaja: elokuu 19, 2016, 11:46 pm

>129 Taphophile13: Topic is gone, but profile still needs more flags.

Hah! Profile suspended too, now.

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elokuu 20, 2016, 3:40 pm

>133 passion4reading: Is there a way to flag that? I think it might be better to notify Lorannen or TimSpalding directly.

elokuu 20, 2016, 4:03 pm

Interesting. It's not showing up on the work page: (The "haiku" is, but the spam isn't.)

elokuu 20, 2016, 5:28 pm

Someone flogging their book on a "help me find a book" thread in YA Lit:

elokuu 20, 2016, 5:37 pm

>133 passion4reading: This is the same as >121 Collectorator: ; you found some further residual traces of the work crapification by the undead spammer.

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elokuu 20, 2016, 9:54 pm

Ah, all fixed now (it just took your flag/votes and mine).

elokuu 21, 2016, 12:29 pm
sock-puppet. Joined today, with one book which just happens to be the one they're pushing.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 21, 2016, 12:37 pm

It seems we have a very busy enthusiastic author/publisher:

(Some of these have already found oblivion, and some still need flags. I've left a note on the profile.) (join to post/flag)

There's more, but I'm wearing out.

ETA: Profile for sockpuppet mentioned in >143 yolana:

One more for Anna

elokuu 21, 2016, 1:02 pm

>144 Lyndatrue:
Another peep out of Anna and I'll be very tempted to flag her profile.

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Does that mean anything?

elokuu 22, 2016, 1:45 am

>147 MarthaJeanne: Nope. I'd say not.

elokuu 22, 2016, 8:49 am

>147 MarthaJeanne: Only meaning I can posit it SPAM.

Wonder if some punctuation could make that work in a book...

Muokkaaja: elokuu 22, 2016, 3:50 pm

I've just "rescued" an overly enthusiastic author from the spam purgatory, and am about to leave a comment on the profile, but wanted to document both topic and profile here, first.

The topic will probably be gone, by now. Even though I believe this is just another drive-by author, he or she deserves the same chance as any other.

Yep, topic is gone (it was on Book Talk).

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>154 Yamanekotei: Did they use Google translate perhaps?

elokuu 24, 2016, 10:11 am

>155 2wonderY: Google discombobulator.

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elokuu 25, 2016, 3:45 am

Supposed "author" leaving profile comment spam & friend requests, but the twitter handle doesn't exist and they actually entered "Quynh Van Nguyen" under the real name spot but claim "My name is John Smith. I am an author of Biographies & Memoirs topic, about the biography of famous people.
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elokuu 25, 2016, 7:41 am

We saw a rash of these a while back, and corporate headquarters of the company assured us it would stop.

elokuu 25, 2016, 8:07 am

>159 .Monkey.: He's back? Was mentioned once before in >125 MarthaJeanne:. Wonder if we should flag him this time...

elokuu 25, 2016, 8:17 am

Well I left a line for Loranne earlier, letting her know they were spamming while purporting to be an author.

elokuu 25, 2016, 10:39 pm

It may finally be suspended, but the most recent spammer hitting us still needs flags on the profile.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 25, 2016, 10:39 pm

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elokuu 25, 2016, 11:16 pm

Overeager author tooting his own horn:

Muokkaaja: elokuu 27, 2016, 1:58 pm

author offering free book looking for reviews on Amazon

I'll leave the usual info on profile

elokuu 27, 2016, 10:06 pm

>170 Taphophile13: Topics gone, but profile needs more flags, please.

elokuu 28, 2016, 2:02 am

Just for the sake of noting this, enthusiastic author (the post is already gone). Profile already commented (by MarthaJeanne).

elokuu 28, 2016, 7:54 am

Had a message posted to my profile from cmtusa offering ebook in return for a review. Is this against the rules for authors? Should I reply to him saying no thanks or just delete?

elokuu 28, 2016, 8:02 am

>174 dudes22: That will probably be against the rules, because when the send one, they tend to send hundreds. Noting here will help admin spot it.

elokuu 28, 2016, 8:07 am

>174 dudes22: I got the same message. I'll write him a note. Looks like he's a legitimate longtime member and has offered a book prior in the correct way.

elokuu 28, 2016, 1:31 pm

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elokuu 30, 2016, 6:23 am

>184 stortemelk: Lots of spam works there too.

elokuu 30, 2016, 11:02 am

>184 stortemelk: >185 2wonderY: As I recall, it takes flagging the reviews and the works, or at least pleading for intervention from lorannen to fix the problems with this:

If no one else contacts her, I'll do it in a bit, but I'm still drinking that all-important first cup of coffee, and have no competence.

I don't think just flagging the profile is going to fix this one.

elokuu 30, 2016, 11:08 am

>187 Lyndatrue: You are more on the ball than I am. I even looked at those reviews and saw they contained spam links, and I did nothing about them.

Muokkaaja: elokuu 30, 2016, 12:10 pm

>188 2wonderY: (et alia) The reviews still need another flag or two. The works appear to be suppressed as spam.

Now that I have competence and diplomacy skills, I'll go off and leave a note on Lorannen's profile.

ETA: Never mind. Reviews are now suppressed as well.

We'll just have to wait for Loranne to show up and wave her magic wand.

elokuu 30, 2016, 12:42 pm

Thanks to >187 Lyndatrue: for pinging me on this one. I try to stay on top of this thread, but today's my big day of spreadsheets for ER, so messaging me directly was much appreciated! I've got them zapped now.

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Muokkaaja: syyskuu 1, 2016, 2:04 am

>196 Yamanekotei: Already discussed over here:

(That's a helpful answer from Lorannen)

Here's where it all started.

(ETA: For those just noticing them, please don't flag the profiles or group for qwerty)

syyskuu 1, 2016, 2:09 am

>197 Lyndatrue:

Thanks for letting me know of the discussion. I didn't see that thread.

syyskuu 1, 2016, 6:18 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

syyskuu 1, 2016, 6:56 am

syyskuu 1, 2016, 9:17 am

author spam:

I've left a note.

syyskuu 1, 2016, 9:32 am

Time for a new thread.
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