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1Urquhart
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 5, 2016, 9:03 pm

Tai chi

So here is a topic I know about. I have been practicing this sport / meditation / martial art and for twice a day for the past 5 years and find it really interesting. Also attending class for that amount of time.

If you have questions, then ask away. Or you can check out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi

I never talk about this in everyday life since no one would want to hear about it. Fair enough. But if you have questions then feel free to ask.

2vy0123
kesäkuu 13, 2016, 12:25 am

For balance and energy, what tips and resources to recommend a new beginner who has had back and knee surgery which didn't work out as planned and their first search result on the Internet netted Don Fiore's Louhan tapping, the 4, 9 minute sequences on YouTube?

Any comments on those Don Fiore clips?

3Urquhart
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 13, 2016, 7:38 am

Our taichi teacher has touched on this tapping method only fleetingly, so I am reluctant to say anything on it. Actually he spoke about the patting in the stomach area, especially after large meals so as to aid in circulation.

Taichi is very much about blood circulation and Chi, as well as many other things. Since I have something called Peripheral Neuropathy (that you may have heard Eric Clapton the guitarist also has) I have been going to an accupuncturist for treatment. Accupuncture deals with circulation and Chi.

My taichi experience is mostly with the actual physical solo form, so I am reluctant to go too far afield from that.

NB: If your Profile pics are correct and you enjoy Gomukh trekking,(situated at a height of 13,200 ft?) you are in better condition than I am. My congratulations.

4vy0123
kesäkuu 16, 2016, 4:56 am

In my class we use the tapping at the end. The direction going to the heart along the inner soft surface of the limbs and out the other way along the outer stronger surface. The advice was not to eat too close to the start of class and the belly and lower back can be drummed at the same time swinging the loose arms as the hip turns.

I had acupuncture to blot the pain from a bucket handle tear in the meniscus. Lucky I did. Knee surgery they say has a 50% success rate. When the knee surgery is unsuccessful you lose the ability to lift up your toes as you do in taichi to encourage the capillary action in circulation from the extremity of the feet.

I found another beginner's clip

https://youtu.be/4VNw8tM7MYE

Ah, yes, the height was half of Mt Everest.

I wish they invent super glue to obsolete knee surgery. Glue the bits back down rather than cutting in, stitching down or cutting out the loosely floating bits. I wrote an email to a researcher but it must've ended in the spam folder.

Did you see the picture of the park I posted where I did taichi? I've since gone to the beach at dawn and it's a great start to the day.

5Urquhart
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 18, 2016, 6:04 am

Totally agree it is a great way to start the day.

This is a clip of a teacher in my Yang family lineage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USJPmCZ6Efc

My current teacher studied under this guy. He teaches that we can learn from all schools, teachers, and forms. He does not approve of dogmatism.

This is a clip of the same form:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaStBOk0mNM

6vy0123
kesäkuu 19, 2016, 12:00 am

I like the following three examples:

https://youtu.be/gdxZ76MU2ZA

https://youtu.be/RA8iHFarIng

https://youtu.be/IEJLM29ITMw

The clips are of women at different ages.

The middle clip comes from a competition series. For me there, I like the Chen style and music. The women's champion outclassed the guy in my opinion.

In the 90s I traveled once a year to Beijing to learn from The Old Man. We had the wall all to ourselves for taking photos. There can be a fuss over the lineage thing.

7Urquhart
kesäkuu 19, 2016, 11:28 am


Thank you for sharing those video clips; greatly appreciated. Yes, that middle clip is excellent. Two of my teachers have said that women come to taichi more easily than men.

I know nothing about the solo forms in your clips so it is certainly all new to me. People from China tell me mostly only old people do taichi and that young people have no interest in it, so I have no idea re how many people do it or the quality of the sport in China. Are they correct?

Can you tell me who The Old Man that you refer to is and what it was like seeing taichi in China?
A couple of clips from my archive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XItkUbMVA4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TBvF6r6DOvc&feature=endscreen
-this woman’s balance with leg up is remarkable to me.

How long have you studied and what form: is it Chen 24? I do Yang shool 37 forms.

Your class must be interesting. I am sorry to hear you say you:

" had back and knee surgery which didn't work out "

but think it is fortunate for you to have a good teacher. As you probably know, it is very easy to injure oneself if one does not do taichi correctly. The angle of the knee over the toe of the foot is especially critical in the solo form I do. Extending beyond the toe in our form creates medical problems very quickly.

Thanks so much.

8vy0123
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 22, 2016, 9:11 pm

The non dominant looser parts of the body flow easier in taiji. I can't imagine women trained body builders take to it any easier than male body builders. Women in general are softer. There aren't as many, say, Female Tradies pulling monkey wrenches and stiffening their joints over time due to work.

The Old Man is featured in one of my few taiji books possibly tagged with the Unicode symbol for yinyang. I heard in China people find foreigners watching or joining them entertaining but I guess too many too often can be distracting. If memory serves we walked through the park in the early morning, heard people making taiji sounds, going through repertoire including fans, swords. We had a week of practice in the pro studio.

Yes. We are lucky to have good teachers. I am looking forward to learning from Master Hua Hua at the following event.

http://www.taichi365.com.au/classes_workshops/details/1122

9Urquhart
kesäkuu 23, 2016, 1:23 pm

"The Old Man is featured in one of my few taiji books possibly tagged with the Unicode symbol for yinyang."

If you ever find out what his name is let me know.

11Urquhart
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 23, 2016, 7:28 pm

Ok, you win.

"Treatise in Yang style Tai Chi Chuan technique. Illustrated with diagrams and photos, some in color, and foldout chart. TEXT IN CHINESE"

His form and technique on Youtube way too Esoteric for me to access.

12vy0123
kesäkuu 24, 2016, 2:14 am

People from China tell me mostly only old people do taichi and that young people have no interest in it, so I have no idea re how many people do it or the quality of the sport in China. Are they correct?


Unfortunately taiji is not well marketed to dispell popular misconception about appropriateness for young and old, and the English language has negative ideas about being loose.

The teachers I now have were shaped by the Deng Xiaoping administration to transmit received traditions which is fortunate. In China there is institutional backing for elite athletes. A group photo of my teacher has 5 rows high and possibly a 100 wide of individual faces.

13Urquhart
kesäkuu 24, 2016, 8:21 pm

Do you have a favorite YouTube video of either you teacher or a senior student?

14vy0123
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 28, 2016, 7:56 am

No. I haven't gone searching in particular. They record public demonstrations but I don't know if anyone edits them to show on YouTube. My teacher gave me the task of adding length to a tune. It is as follows. The original 5 minutes was extended by 30 seconds taking a turn at the 1:23 mark in a loop.

https://youtu.be/2ijnIkRdamA

At the moment I have been ruminating on the pineal body, kidneys and second brain theory for blood/chee/qi and emotions.

15vy0123
heinäkuu 13, 2016, 1:32 am

Do you imagine it possible to help a student in my class help an assistive roboticists to correct the 30° drift left in her walking direction and to be able to perform the 24 step which she is unable to?

16vy0123
heinäkuu 13, 2016, 1:41 am

This is my teacher's sponsor on the mic. She is standing behind the chair.

17vy0123
heinäkuu 18, 2016, 5:51 am



The above assistive robotics walker really needs to accelerate to market as they are doing the self driving car.