Spam reporting thread #49

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Spam reporting thread #49

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toukokuu 11, 2016, 9:02 am


Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

toukokuu 11, 2016, 3:11 pm

>2 2wonderY:
A review on another of his books appears to be by hired reviewer:

toukokuu 12, 2016, 8:17 am and the 20 flagged Chinese spam works.

toukokuu 12, 2016, 8:29 am

>6 rybie2: Reviews should disappear with the works, yes? But I flagged them as well.

toukokuu 12, 2016, 6:44 pm

>7 2wonderY: As far as I can tell, yes, reviews do go away when the spam work goes away.

toukokuu 14, 2016, 10:41 pm

>15 tardis: Are you saying to flag the profile, or not? I'm confused. The topic you listed is long gone.

toukokuu 14, 2016, 11:41 pm

>16 Lyndatrue: Well, if the topics are gone, that's good enough.

toukokuu 15, 2016, 5:29 am

>15 tardis: I thought the multiple spamming threads in quick succession, with no personal intro deserved a profile flag.

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 15, 2016, 11:05 am

>15 tardis:. >16 Lyndatrue:, >18 2wonderY:

It is always helpful, in these cases, to be specific as to the nature of the problem. There's a difference between an overenthusiastic author and a spammer.

In any case, we've been asked not to flag author profiles, but to report them to staff.

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 15, 2016, 12:05 pm

>19 lilithcat: I prefer not to flag profiles unless the reason to do so is given, and (with extraordinarily rare exception) I don't flag author profiles. I will go to the bother when the author in question is violating the low bar of common sense, and persisting in reposting the same blatant advertisement to section after section of the site, AND it's the weekend, or other time where help is not going to arrive in a timely manner (and I'm reasonable on that).

In addition to the above, I also provide a comment (or two) on the author's profile. In a couple of cases, the author has taken great umbrage to my very polite reminder (I didn't write it, I "borrowed" it from someone else who has often posted it).

I am careful (usually) about not giving in to impulses to flag before I've had adequate coffee, recognizing that I normally lack people skills, and that, uncaffeinated, I lack even basic humanity.

>18 2wonderY: There might well have been multiple spamming threads, but they weren't listed here (I know, I know, it's a bother, but it should still be done). There isn't anyone currently participating in this that I don't like and respect, but we still need to be like Caesar's wife.

toukokuu 15, 2016, 12:14 pm

>20 Lyndatrue:

I am careful (usually) about not giving in to impulses to flag before I've had adequate coffee,

For me, it's that first cup of tea in the morning. Without it, I am not recognizably human.

toukokuu 18, 2016, 7:25 pm

>34 2wonderY: I wanted agreement on that one. When I saw that I had it, I flagged it.


toukokuu 18, 2016, 7:26 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

toukokuu 18, 2016, 9:30 pm

>34 2wonderY:, >35 Mr.Durick:, >36 Collectorator:

You've got me curious! What was it?

toukokuu 18, 2016, 9:47 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

toukokuu 19, 2016, 6:54 am

It was new member CreationsArt disingenuously wanting to discuss adult coloring books.

toukokuu 19, 2016, 7:03 am

Bad mind. BAD mind! :)

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 19, 2016, 7:43 am

toukokuu 19, 2016, 9:13 am

Adult coloring books are all the rage these days. It doesn't necessarily, or even usually, mean "X-rated".

Based on the book CreationsArt has on her shelf, I wonder if her post was misunderstood.

toukokuu 19, 2016, 9:20 am

>41 MarthaJeanne:, >42 lilithcat: Check Spenser's Gifts. They do exist. :)

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 19, 2016, 9:53 am

I'm sure they do, although none of the coloring books at Spenser's Gifts are X (or even R) -rated. My point was that most adult coloring books are not "naughty novelties". They are used for meditation, relaxation, stress relief, etc. If you look at the book on @CreationArt's shelf, it is definitely in that category.

I would very much like to know the content of the flagged post, because based on the poster's profile and the book of which she is the author, I am starting to doubt that it was flaggable. The term "adult" may have caused people to jump to erroneous conclusions.

toukokuu 19, 2016, 10:00 am

Oh, I didn't even get the chance to flag it. I just made a joke of it (which seems to be lost in the context of text. :P) I'm thinking it was solicitation for the book, though. You'll have to ask >34 2wonderY:

toukokuu 19, 2016, 10:23 am

>44 lilithcat:

I'm pretty sure the reason for flagging was as spam; authors promoting their own books, which this appears to have been (not seeing the post), still get the offending posts flagged, just not their profiles.

toukokuu 19, 2016, 10:36 am

>46 lorax:

authors promoting their own books . . . still get the offending posts flagged, just not their profiles.

I know that.

But the reason for the flagging was not apparent, nor were the responses to my question about it. I do wish that people who post here would state their reasons.

toukokuu 19, 2016, 11:54 am

>47 lilithcat:

2wonderY's explanation in #39 (particularly the "disingenuously" part of the wording) implied to me that it was self-promotion, but I agree 100% that I'd like to see reasons stated for those of us who are late to the party.

toukokuu 20, 2016, 12:24 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 20, 2016, 12:27 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

toukokuu 20, 2016, 10:08 am

>50 Collectorator:

When there's the possibility for ambiguity I tend to use "grown-up". It may sound a bit childish but it's at least clear.

toukokuu 23, 2016, 10:53 am

author spam

I accidentally posted in the thread instead of leaving the message on the member's page. (I know better but I'm not fully awake yet.)

toukokuu 23, 2016, 11:00 am

OK, I'm going to remove my sarcastic somment on your comment now! ;)

toukokuu 23, 2016, 11:14 am

>58 Taphophile13: Did you not flag the post from the author? I just flagged it, now, and it looks like I'm the only flag.

toukokuu 23, 2016, 11:48 am

>60 Lyndatrue: Maybe I need to engage my brain a bit more.

toukokuu 23, 2016, 2:22 pm

Seems the user was deemed as full spam, as both post and author are gone now.

toukokuu 24, 2016, 2:05 am

Um, all gone now. There was a group and a topic, too.

toukokuu 25, 2016, 10:52 pm

Over-enthusiastic author promoting his book:

For information only, do not flag:

toukokuu 26, 2016, 1:40 am

toukokuu 26, 2016, 9:14 am

>66 lilithcat:

Different post, same author.

toukokuu 26, 2016, 11:22 am

>68 lilithcat: et alia. I'd headed over to the profile to leave a more explicit comment than yours, but I see that gilroy has done so already, this morning. Perhaps he'll learn. Who can say?

Odds are against it, but that's just me, cynical.

toukokuu 26, 2016, 1:05 pm

Next mispost, and I'm flagging the profile. I'm sure there were private comments before that were ignored, since this is a second offense...

toukokuu 26, 2016, 4:49 pm

>70 gilroy:

I'm sure there were private comments before that were ignored, since this is a second offense...

Or public ones that were deleted.

toukokuu 26, 2016, 5:30 pm

>71 lorax: My goodness, someone else as suspicious as me!

toukokuu 26, 2016, 7:35 pm

enthusiastic author

I left a note on his profile (do not flag)

toukokuu 27, 2016, 9:12 am

Waiting for this one to flip over into spam:

toukokuu 28, 2016, 1:53 am

looks like an advertisement for a web site so I flagged it.

looks like an established member so I didn't flag it.


toukokuu 28, 2016, 2:01 am

>75 Mr.Durick: Looks to me like author spam. Same actions.

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 28, 2016, 6:44 am

More author spam

(Author profile

His reviews are all copied from other people.

ETA He responded: From PhilipAOldfield to you Today, 6:07am
Hi Martha Jeanne, I wasn't aware. Thanks for the links, appreciate it, Philip

Similar answer also to bernsad

toukokuu 29, 2016, 3:26 am

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 29, 2016, 8:40 am

African horror author spam again


toukokuu 29, 2016, 11:49 am

While there's no claim that this is the author, I'm thinking it is.

Profile for consistency, please don't flag.

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 30, 2016, 2:30 am

Muokkaaja: toukokuu 31, 2016, 5:58 am

Spam in venues:

ETA And works; and reviews... this guy is going nuts with mindless commercial spam.

kesäkuu 3, 2016, 6:20 am

I see ending in shelly is becoming a theme

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 12:50 am

Events have been edited to spam.

I can't tell who's doing it or how to respond.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 6, 2016, 1:06 am

>91 davidgn: You'll have to await someone with more experience than I. There's a history of who edits things, but I would hesitate to go poking around (I've had a long day, and am error prone when tired).

I'd leave it until someone shows up, so that they can at least see the profile of the perpetrator.

ETA: It would be helpful if you provided a link to the venue itself. That's an awfully common name.

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 1:47 am

>93 bernsad: Figures. :-p

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 3:55 am

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 8:34 am

>91 davidgn: >92 Lyndatrue: >93 bernsad: This happened recently, with a different spammer, and I wrote Loranne, since it was such a huge mess. She cleaned it quickly and cleanly, so I'm writing her now to ask her to step in again.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 6, 2016, 9:08 am

I've deleted some of those "events", but the spammer is adding them faster than I can smack them down.

Gone now.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 6, 2016, 12:38 pm

>91 davidgn: and >99 rybie2: Thanks for the message—I'm on it! Should be cleared up soon.

ETA: I think I've got this all taken care of. Post here (or message me directly, if you'd rather) if you see any others, and I'll take them down.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 6, 2016, 1:34 pm

"Furious at any attempt" spam. (S/he walked right into that one!)

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 6, 2016, 3:10 pm

He's looking for reviews of his pimping book:

ETA: OK, the topic is gone. The "work" remains along with his own review.

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 3:13 pm

>103 Taphophile13: I left a note on his profile.

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 3:13 pm

>104 gilroy: Thank you. I didn't want to touch it.

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 3:15 pm

>105 Taphophile13: Well, I left a note on the guy from the Is this Spam thread and his profile disappeared not long after I got a response saying he'd try to correct. So doubt it makes a difference any more. People are just flagging.

kesäkuu 6, 2016, 3:55 pm

Author spam

( should not be flagged.)

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 5:53 am

"Hello my sweet friends..." Ugh.

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 6:57 am

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 7:08 am

I also think the account created at the same time (and "friends" with the linked in >112 rybie2:) created spam venue, which is advertising and a link to YouTube; not a literary awards event at all.

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 8:03 am

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 4:55 pm

>117 lilithcat:

Are you sure we should flag someone who "is fully able to do powerful vashikaran"?

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 5:01 pm

>117 lilithcat: You'd better call the baba and ask.

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 6:41 pm

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Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 7, 2016, 10:23 pm

The last four still need more flagging (in >120 Taphophile13: >121 Taphophile13: and >122 Taphophile13:)

EDIT: Only the last two now, in >122 Taphophile13:

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 10:24 pm

Now just the two in >122 Taphophile13: still need flags.

kesäkuu 7, 2016, 10:33 pm

>124 rybie2: And they're gone.

kesäkuu 8, 2016, 12:12 am
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kesäkuu 8, 2016, 2:24 am

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kesäkuu 8, 2016, 10:53 am

>130 Taphophile13:

I disagree about sumandeep
not spam.

kesäkuu 9, 2016, 4:39 am
NYC events are being crapified. They're getting hit hard, too.
Lorannen, a job for you...

kesäkuu 9, 2016, 6:58 am

>133 davidgn: I sent a message to Loranne, too. "Crapified" is right, and it's getting to be a near daily routine.

kesäkuu 9, 2016, 7:17 am

>133 davidgn: >135 rybie2: When I post an event, my member name is attached at the end of the notice. Any idea why these are not? Can non-members add events?

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 9, 2016, 11:59 am

>136 2wonderY: I had the same reasonable questions but no answers, and that's why I asked Loranne to step in. I wish I'd asked the questions at the time, but I'll ask now if she'll comment on them here.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 9, 2016, 1:08 pm

Thanks for the reports >133 davidgn: and others, and to rybie and davidgn for the messages! I'm asking Tim what's up with not being able to see member names on events. I'm wondering if it's not because the accounts that created these events have already been flagged down as spam at this point. I'll keep an eye out for the next ones, and see what I can find out there.

I'm also talking with Tim about whether there's a faster, more effective way to combat these.

I think I've got them all cleaned up... for now.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 9, 2016, 6:36 pm

enthusiastic author, second time

ETA: I left another reminder for her.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 9, 2016, 6:32 pm

>138 lorannen: I'm suspecting it's a case of legit existing events being edited into crap -- which would also mean that good events data is being destroyed. So, not only a question of tracking user-creators, but user-editors of events...

kesäkuu 10, 2016, 1:29 pm

>140 davidgn: A very good point. Thank you.

kesäkuu 10, 2016, 5:43 pm

Is it time to flag the author as well?

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 10, 2016, 5:52 pm

He seems to have put them up one after the other. I'd let him go this time. still needs one more flag.

ETA, he's got RIP next to his name now.

kesäkuu 10, 2016, 6:01 pm

>148 MarthaJeanne: et al. I read through his bio, and noted the groups he'd joined. I think he may have done the self-promoting before, considering when he joined, and the comment to himself, from himself. I'd have flagged him, myself (although I didn't).

kesäkuu 10, 2016, 6:15 pm

I think once you have a certain number of flagged posts you get buried whether or not your profile is flagged.

There is no record of him spamming in February.

kesäkuu 10, 2016, 6:58 pm

So then putting a comment on these profiles may mean nothing if they are automatically getting suspended...

kesäkuu 10, 2016, 7:21 pm

>151 gilroy: If they don't read them and change their ways, or stick around to see what the site is about, then no, the comments don't help. If the author actually intends to engage with people here, or at least not get negative attention, comments can help.

kesäkuu 10, 2016, 7:28 pm

>152 Taphophile13:

I'm thinking that >151 gilroy:'s point is that if the flags on the posts get the person suspended, they don't have a chance to take the comments to heart.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 11, 2016, 2:18 am

I'm not sure of these but convinced enough that I've flagged them.


kesäkuu 11, 2016, 2:19 am

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 11, 2016, 2:32 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 11, 2016, 2:37 am

This same venue spam from the same SUSPENDED member is coming back AGAIN! etc, etc
ETA: It's already been (auto?)-archived. Is this a diagnostic move of some sort?

kesäkuu 11, 2016, 6:15 am

This one is leaving spam in various CK fields like the Haiku.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 11, 2016, 9:48 am

Don't know if this person is the author in disguise, a friend or publicist, or an honest fan, but she's posting in multiple forums advertising the books (which are the only ones she has catalogued):

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 11, 2016, 10:10 am

>165 lilithcat: I was about to deliver the death blow to one of those posts, but I needed to leave a comment on her profile first, which I've done. I doubt strongly about the honest fan.

Please remember folks, don't flag the author (although a couple more posts will make that a done deal, in any case, it seems).

ETA: Only the last post is there, still (probably because it's one of those join to post groups). Note there've been responses to it.

Extra profile, noted here for the sake of completion.

I'm just so cynical. Not wrong, though. I also left a comment on that profile.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 3:01 am

>166 Lyndatrue: They are Shelfari/Leafmarks refugees, who are used to author spam and also, apparently, quite trusting and actually believe that to be a real post.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 3:42 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 3:47 am

>172 Collectorator: Aww, man. And I thought we were the only ones getting the weiruyung spam love! *pouts*

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 3:49 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 12, 2016, 4:42 am

The latest batch that the computer caught bothers me. is an active long time member, but the posts are obvious spam.

Oh, I see. He answered the spam.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 5:07 am

Right. I was going to post that before someone else did. I had the same spit-take moment.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 5:12 am

>177 davidgn: Those are gone now, but the profile is still active.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 5:32 am

>175 MarthaJeanne: >176 davidgn: ...and I just had a "hmm, what does that button do?" moment on those threads. I found out: apparently I sprung them from the automatic spam trap to clutter up Talk. *sigh* Sorry.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 5:59 am

>179 davidgn: Yes, that's the life saving ring, for those cases where the computer goofed. Now you know what to do in such a case. And, yes, it does happen. Rarely, but I have seen it.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 6:03 am

>180 MarthaJeanne: And what's more, it doesn't have a confirmation step, or an undo option. How charming! :-p

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 12, 2016, 6:40 am

That page is only visible to members of this group, and we are supposed to know what we are doing.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 6:44 am

Late-adopter blues.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 9:31 am

>179 davidgn: That's okay. I just posted on one of the threads to someone who'd replied to one of them (asking him not to do that), and then did a forehead slap, and remembered that I wasn't helping. I went to do a comment on his profile, and noted the length of the profile, and was astonished that he needed to be told (and that someone else had already done so).

Everyone makes mistakes. I require coffee to start up brain cells, myself, and have been known to make mistakes beforehand. Like this morning, just now.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 9:36 am

>184 Lyndatrue:

I just posted on one of the threads to someone who'd replied to one of them (asking him not to do that), and then did a forehead slap, and remembered that I wasn't helping.

I've done that, figuring the damage was done, but then realized that my new post bumped the thread up. Defintely a "duuuuhhh" moment!

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 9:38 am

Lol yeah, I was about to do the same thing for that reason also, then went -wait but this will bump it- and went to the profile instead.

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 12:06 pm

kesäkuu 12, 2016, 11:15 pm

This account is posting more than a hundred spam posts.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 14, 2016, 2:07 am

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kesäkuu 14, 2016, 4:55 pm

kesäkuu 14, 2016, 6:20 pm

>198 jnwelch: Interesting. It's pretty rude, yes, but spam is different. For the sake of others in the group, here's the profile:

Please note that most of the posts from this account (apparently female) speak from a male perspective. jnwelch, you might want to alert staff (specifically lorannen) about that thread, and all, but it's ugly, and certainly deserving of flagging the comments. I never understand why someone has the need to spew such anger, but then, I lead a sheltered life (okay, I lead a hermit's life; same thing).

kesäkuu 14, 2016, 6:24 pm

>199 Lyndatrue: Thanks! We're on it.

kesäkuu 14, 2016, 6:50 pm

>199 Lyndatrue: Sad part was they responded and kept feeding the troll

kesäkuu 14, 2016, 9:30 pm

>201 gilroy: Yeah, I saw that. It's why I made the suggestion I did. Sometimes you just have to invoke those who can effect a repair, without being emotionally involved.

I do not, EVER, understand the need for people spew hate, but I suppose it's best that I don't understand it. Still a sad business, all around.

kesäkuu 15, 2016, 2:11 am

Mm-kay, new thread.

kesäkuu 15, 2016, 10:08 am

>201 gilroy:

Note: I have no looked at the thread in question. This week in particular I do not have the energy to read the words of haters.

Tim has, in violation of conventional wisdom everywhere else online, specifically suggested that we feed the trolls on LT, in the hopes that they will cross the line from insulting all (women, gays, black people, etc.) to specifically insulting an individual by name, at which point we can flag them.

kesäkuu 15, 2016, 11:42 am

>199 Lyndatrue: Thanks. I had a surprisingly hard time finding a place on LT to report these rude posts. I'll try Lorannen. Seems like reporting something like this should be easier.

Oh, I see in >200 lorannen: that they're on it.

Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 15, 2016, 11:02 pm

Tämä viestiketju jatkuu täällä: Spam reporting thread #50.