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1LibraryCin
tammikuu 18, 2016, 10:42pm

In case anyone just wants to chat...

2dustydigger
tammikuu 19, 2016, 6:21am

Too busy to chat! Too busy to read even! Spending all my time setting up groups on Leafmarks,responding as admin and galloping from pillar to post(or from LibraryThing to Leafmarks to Goodreads to Shelfari etc etc,you get the picture)
Still finding my way around. Just discovered the ''covers'' view,where I can at least SEE some covers. My import from shelfari seems to be a bit wonky,with over 500 duplicate books,and huge numbers of books without covers. I think the problem there is that I have never been interested in the nitty gritty of editing for the correct edition to put on my shelf. I would go for the prettiest,most interesting and most legible cover available,just to look good on my shelf. Or nostalgically go for a cover from 50 years ago when I first read it. Now lots of them are not available on the site,so there will be a lot of editing ahead to get it all looking good.
For the moment though,I thinkIwill designate Sundays as LibraryThing day,do editing,catch upon posts,perhaps even check out lists etc.
But for the moment,I might be conspicuous by my absence.

3.Monkey.
tammikuu 19, 2016, 6:48am

>2 dustydigger: Covers are not a part of importing, so that is something that needs individual attention (and when you add books individually, the cover shown on the add page is also irrelevant). On every book page there's a link to change cover, where you can choose from Amazon covers or member uploaded covers. Choosing amazon will change your ISBN to that edition, and the cover can change, if a new one for that ISBN is added to amazon; member covers are strongly recommended.
Also, LT is the opposite of what you were saying, haha, we're all about the data here, so, you can use anything you like for your covers, but we have no generic editions or anything, so the typical thing is to add in/correct all the data to be accurate for our editions, which also includes the covers. Many people, myself included, will go to lengths to make sure their covers are entirely accurate to their edition. :)

4BookConcierge
Muokkaaja: tammikuu 19, 2016, 8:25am

>2 dustydigger:
Wait a few days. When I did my import it seemed that none of the covers appeared, but when I checked yesterday (to start adding reviews / ratings where missing ... and yes, covers) I discovered that most of the covers are there now. Still missing reviews/ratings/tags in places, but I feel a little better ...

5.Monkey.
tammikuu 19, 2016, 8:34am

As long as there are covers added for the book, the system will automatically assign you one. An amazon one by default if there is a matching ISBN for one of them, otherwise it defaults to "best guess" based on the ISBN vs the ISBNs of other people's books and the covers they've chosen.

6pennsylady
tammikuu 19, 2016, 8:39am

Don't know if some mentioned this but my books that have no covers often have authors like paperback, kindle etc
Interesting

7MarthaJeanne
Muokkaaja: tammikuu 19, 2016, 9:01am

You need to fix those. Then you can combine with the main work and have access to the covers. I've seen a lot of this. At work level we can do a lot if we can figure out where the book really belongs, but at book level only the member can fix things.

For example, it was easy to assume that your book Mildred Pierce was by James M. Cain. Under that assumption, I combined it with the main work, but your copy is still by Hardcover. On the other hand, I have no idea which 'Forever' your book should be combined with.

BTW I'm on several times a day and am always happy to walk people through their first combining efforts, so if you think there must be others who own your book, ask me on my profile, including the URLs of a few books that need help.

8EmilyD1037
tammikuu 19, 2016, 10:08am

Does anyone know if there is a way to delete duplicates en masse?
Or a way to remove all books to then download the list again?

9.Monkey.
tammikuu 19, 2016, 10:11am

The former, I don't believe is possible. The latter you can do with power edit (the lightning bolt icon).

10EmilyD1037
tammikuu 19, 2016, 11:03am

Thank you so much for your rapid reply!

11.Monkey.
tammikuu 19, 2016, 11:05am

I tend to be around a lot, when I'm not sleeping or eating. Even reading tends to be done at my desk and I randomly drop by Talk. ;P

12Karin7
helmikuu 8, 2016, 1:35pm

Hi, all, not really doing a lot of chit-chatting yet as I'm learning the systems. Right now I'm crazily learning 4 places other than Shelfari (mostly following groups) and hope things will settle down. I think I'm really going to like it here once I'm used to it, though.

13lorannen
helmikuu 8, 2016, 2:18pm

>12 Karin7: Welcome, we're happy to have you!

14LibraryCin
helmikuu 8, 2016, 4:08pm

>12 Karin7: Wow, Karin! What other sites? GR, LM and here... Are you trying out Booklikes, as well?

15Karin7
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 19, 2016, 12:01pm

Yes, including Booklikes, but I don't like it much at all. I had joined back in 2014 when a few Shelfarians were talking about it. Now I'm only posting reviews there, but might just quit it altogether. They have a few discussions, but not really of interest to me.

16BellaFoxx
helmikuu 23, 2016, 4:49pm

>1 LibraryCin: Took me a while to get here, anyway I have discovered the Help topics for be, well, rather helpful. Glad I already had my books here.

17LibraryCin
helmikuu 23, 2016, 7:27pm

>16 BellaFoxx: LOL! I'm glad you've found them helpful!

18LibraryCin
maaliskuu 17, 2016, 6:55pm

So... now the "pink banner of death" at shelfari gives us a "deadline" date of May 31. I wonder why...

19Booklover889
maaliskuu 18, 2016, 7:27am

Thanks for posting this Cindy - I might not have checked, and I continue to need as much time as possible to get my data squared away on the various sites. I think LT is going to be my new primary site, though I plan to keep a running back-up at GR

20LibraryCin
maaliskuu 18, 2016, 10:31pm

>18 LibraryCin: No problem! Maybe there are still others who would like to use the extended time to finish a few more things up, as well.

21CarmenMilligan
huhtikuu 12, 2016, 12:09pm

I have decided the same, Booklover889. I am making this my primary, and just updating Goodreads once a week, or so. I must admit that I still pine for Shelfari. I guess we never forget our first love, even if it's a shelf. :)

My friend request for you is pending.

22DanieXJ
huhtikuu 26, 2016, 8:02pm

>19 Booklover889: >21 CarmenMilligan: Mwhahahaha the grand plan of the existing LT users... it is a working... mwhwahaha.... ;)

In all seriousness I'm glad that y'all have found some sort of book home here. Even if it's a little dusty *sneeze* (no, seriously, I wrote dusty and in real life sneezed... doo doo doo doo) and the owner has been obsessed with his Teeny Tiny Cat for awhile? :D

23LibraryCin
kesäkuu 1, 2016, 12:58am

And amidst the news yesterday that Leafmarks will be shutting down, tonight is the last of shelfari, :'( I was just there and took what is likely my last long look...

24ScoLgo
kesäkuu 1, 2016, 5:26pm

>23 LibraryCin:

I guess it's official...

Going to www.shelfari.com now takes you to a Goodreads greeting page stating that the sites have 'merged', (I still don't think that word means what Amazon/GR would like it to mean...)

25BookConcierge
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 1, 2016, 6:09pm

re: Shelfari ...
I may have made the last post - 1:11 p.m. CDT today.

26LibraryCin
kesäkuu 1, 2016, 8:41pm

>25 BookConcierge: I don't think I saw that one, BC, so it may have been the last... :'(

27jerry-book
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 9:04am

I now have 2,000 tags. This same thing happened when I moved to LM. There, the LM moderator was kind enough to reduce then to 8. Is there a way to reduce my 2,000 book tags for my 820 books to a manageable number without doing each book individually?

28.Monkey.
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 9:30am

You can use power edit to batch edit things. Or remove them all from the column before running your import? I admit I'm confused where they're all coming from if you keep removing them...

29DanieXJ
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 10:28am

>27 jerry-book: I'm looking at your tags and I'm not sure what you mean by, they were reduced to 8? Which 8? I mean. It does look like some of them -- like "creative non-fiction" and "creative nonfiction" could be clicked on and then you change one to the other. But, overall they seem to be all individual tags about the book? Confused.

30jerry-book
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 11:31am

>29 DanieXJ: DanielX

When I switched from Shelfari to Leafmarks I had the problem there with 2000 shelves/tags. The moderator their reduced the number from 2000 to 8.

I just recently have been trying Librarything since Leafmarks is doomed. Here I find my 820 books have about 2000 tags when they were imported. I was looking for a way to reduce the number of tags to a more usable number without editing each of the 820 books.

31bestem
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 11:41am

>30 jerry-book: Are the tags not tags you wanted? Looking at your tags, there's an easy way to reduce the number, because you have tags like American Civil War (1) & American civil war (1) & american civil war (4) which could easily be combined into one tag. It's impossible to get them down to 8 if you want all the information in those tags. If you just want to start from scratch and limit yourself to 8 tags total, the best place to do that is Power Edit.

You mention tags in the same breath as shelves, as well. I think maybe what you want is all your tags (but fixed), but you want only 8 collections. Collections are much more akin to shelves than tags are. You can edit your collections from anywhere where there's a dropdown for collections (your books, add books, etc), and you can use power edit to put your books into whichever collection they belong after you make your collectionis.

32.Monkey.
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 11:51am

>31 bestem: Shelves are what GR uses instead of tags. So while collections serve as a kind of digital shelf of sorts, the vocab from various sites may simply be interfering here.

33LibraryCin
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 5, 2016, 12:08pm

>30 jerry-book: LT is more like shelfari with the tags (it's GR and LM that call them all shelves). Shelfari also had its own fixed shelves of Read, Currently Reading, To Read, Favourites, Wish List, etc. It sounds like some people have some good ideas for you if you want to preserve the information in the tags.

Me, I use lots of tags, but I do try to double check what I've already used for capitalization, spacing, spelling, etc. Even at GR and LM, I often just call(ed) them tags.

34dustydigger
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 5, 2016, 12:50pm

I spent ages when we moved to Leafmarks editing all my ''shelves'' down from 1200 to about 50.It was a nuisance having a lot when you wanted to tag a book''young adult'' and had to scroll down those 1200 to get to YA! Now I am here and have all those tags back,but neatly tucked away on the home page.I tag every author for reference,and its a big help for my poor old memory!

35DanieXJ
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 5, 2016, 1:51pm

>30 jerry-book: It's Danie not Daniel (XJ is because there are many Danie's in the world).

It does sound like you're looking for 'shelves' (which on LT are called collections) that are each a different genre or sub-genre (like history, or travel, or fiction, or non-fiction).

GR Shelves=LT Collections

And LT Tags can sort of be used like Sub Collections. If I go into my Read Collection, and then I click on the mystery tag, it takes me to all the mysteries that I have read and entered. Or if I click on Bold Strokes Books while in my Read Collection then I go to all those books that were published by Bold Strokes books (and that I've remembered to add a tag for BSB to).

I'm also pretty sure that it's not something that the admins can do for you, but, as others have said. Using Power Edit (when you're in your library it's the button at the top that has a lightning bolt picture on it) makes it not totally painless, but much less painless to do. You can also remove tags with power edit once the books are in the correct collection.

>34 dustydigger: I just popped into your library. Holy crap, you tag all your authors. I'm stunned and very impressed. And I thought that I had a lot of tags... :D

36dustydigger
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 3:07pm

lol! Danie,what can I say,I am OCD about my books,I want everything at my fingertips, dates,genres,authors,all ready to go! Nice and easy, made accessing and using your shelf very easy.

37Andrew-theQM
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 3:45pm

>35 DanieXJ: Danie, Dusty is also well renowned for her lists too.

38ScoLgo
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 4:49pm

>37 Andrew-theQM: >35 DanieXJ: I think "renowned" may even be an understatement! Hahaha!

39jerry-book
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 6:50pm

>35 DanieXJ: I now get the power edit. How do I set up special collections like American Presidents or do you use tags for that?

40ScoLgo
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 10:12pm

>39 jerry-book:

That's your choice... You can edit collections, (create, delete, rename, etc), by clicking 'Your books' then click on the 'Collections' button. At the bottom of the list is 'Edit collections...'

I only have ~15 collections. I organize everything else using tags. As others have already mentioned, it's actually very much like the Shelfari way of doing things. LT is actually more powerful though since you don't really need to tag for the fields that are already available on the 'Your books' page, (author, subject, etc)...

HTH!

41bestem
kesäkuu 5, 2016, 11:31pm

>39 jerry-book: So I use collections for big important things. I have a collection for books that are on my Nook, and for digital books that aren't on my Nook (got them from Humble Bundle, or Audible). I would have more collections if we could get pretty colored checkmarks for personal collections (one for things that I have the omnibus of, or for omnibuses that I have all the contents of, for example).

I use tags for subjects, and for other things I want to see at a glance. If I'm tagging the publisher, because I think it's interesting data to see what publishers I like, I'll preface the tag with the word "publisher: " and that way they'll all group together.

If I make a tag that isn't prefaced with a word, and it isn't something like genre, and has more than 100 books in it, it's probably a fairly integral part of my library and deserves a collection.

In my other account, the one I play with importing on, and am trying to catalogue my entire e-library on, I have a collection called "Import" that I try to put all the imported books into, and then I move them where they go after looking over them. I have a collection called "Trello" that once I put the book on Trello, so I can download it, and put the download link in private comments, it makes it easy for me to find a book I can download when I'm at work or on the bus. I don't use tags in that account, although, maybe one day I will.

To sum it up, I use collections for large numbers of books, and tags for smaller numbers of books. If I want to group similar tags together, I preface them with a word, or a special character.

42MarthaJeanne
kesäkuu 6, 2016, 1:58am

Re: Special characters. Some sort at the beginning of the list, some at the end. And some make trouble.

43dustydigger
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 6, 2016, 4:47am

I may explore using collections for some of my lists e.g.Hugo winners.For the moment I have just plonked the whole lot in a private group and will leave the headache for later.
Got enough on my plate adding about 70 titles manually from LM at the moment,and sorting out my groups. :0)
Reading itself? Terrible,havent finished a book yet this month!

44.Monkey.
kesäkuu 6, 2016, 5:20am

>43 dustydigger: That sounds like something a bit more for tags. You can do that with collections, but having more than 15 or so collections starts getting unwieldy, as they weren't intended to be used for many small things, but few large things.

And don't worry, I've only just made a start on my first title of the month. :P

45klarusu
kesäkuu 6, 2016, 5:31am

>43 dustydigger: I have about 35 collections right now and I use it for those kind of things - I prefer it to tags. At the moment, I only have the 1001 Books List but I'm intending on using them for others (such as Hugo etc.) when I have some more time. I don't find it unwieldly at all. Way back when Collections were developed and in BETA, I could see that this was a perfect way for me to use the 'Tags' view in my catalogue to do what I needed it to for browsing, i.e. give me a Windows Explorer kind of view with the collection folders along the side in a side bar and the tags functioning as a nested selection. It's still a work in progress ... life and reading get in the way ... but hopefully I will eventually be able to browse read/unread/subject tags, whatever, for each of my collections in this way. It sufficed when the launched 'Lists' feature did nothing at all I needed/wanted from a lists feature. So it really does depend how you think you'll work with it. There's no rule of thumb.

46Andrew-theQM
kesäkuu 6, 2016, 2:19pm

>43 dustydigger: Dusty, this is the second time this year the closure of a website has impinged on our reading!

47Andrew-theQM
kesäkuu 8, 2016, 3:15pm

Many people who came over from Leafmarks were using the Group 'What Are We Reading 2016' to track their reading. I know this group has moved over to Goodreads so I thought I'd set up this group so that anyone that wants to can track their reading. Hopefully this group will be made up of a small group of like minded members who like to discuss and share the books they are reading. Please feel free to join the group if this resonates with you.

http://www.librarything.com/groups/readittrackit2016

48Raspberrymocha
elokuu 13, 2016, 3:43am

I'm looking for some active groups to join. So far I've only found a few that are very active. I so miss the group's from our old Shelfari😕 Any suggestions?

49.Monkey.
elokuu 13, 2016, 5:12am

>48 Raspberrymocha: There are a ton of groups here, and quite a lot of active ones. You'd have to be a bit more specific on what you're looking for...

50LibraryCin
elokuu 13, 2016, 11:32am

>48 Raspberrymocha: There are a lot of active challenge groups, RM. Is that something you would be interested in? I can suggest a few different ones if that interests you.

51BookConcierge
elokuu 14, 2016, 12:37pm

>48 Raspberrymocha:

It's definitely not the same as Shelfari groups, but these two are pretty active:
Literary Snobs (admit I dislike the name of the group) ... http://www.librarything.com/groups/literarysnobs
What Are You Reading Now? ... http://www.librarything.com/groups/whatareyoureadingno

52threadnsong
marraskuu 18, 2016, 4:37pm

OK, so I can have collections *and* tags.

I'm going through and modifying my tags from Leafmarks to LT. I know, it's a painstaking process, but my OCD brain won't let me stop until everything is "perfect." Plus, it helps me weed out some overused or unused tags that I meant to get to on Leafmarks, and I had probably clicked on on Shelfari as a quick way to tag something.

And in typical internet fashion, as soon as I click on a book to update its tag, I go somewhere else to read the reviews of that book, or find discussions, or reserve a copy at the library.

So all this activity is helping me get more familiar with LT. I think I'll start Collections next: mystery, science fiction, biography . . .

53Raspberrymocha
marraskuu 18, 2016, 4:55pm

>51 BookConcierge: Thanks! I just joined both, so I'll be seeing more of you!👋🏻😀

54threadnsong
marraskuu 18, 2016, 5:45pm

Here's another one I found just noodling around:

http://www.librarything.com/groups/2017categorychallenge

They have different challenges run by different individuals with some interesting sounding idea.

55LibraryCin
marraskuu 18, 2016, 7:39pm

>54 threadnsong: This is my main challenge group! It's really a lot of fun! Of course, at the moment, I'm in the 2016 group, but you get the idea! The start of 2017 might be a good time to get started with the challenge group for whoever is intersted!

56ScoLgo
marraskuu 18, 2016, 8:06pm

>54 threadnsong: When I click that link, I get, "Problem This group does not exist or has been deleted."

58BookConcierge
marraskuu 20, 2016, 10:42am

>53 Raspberrymocha: Great Rasp! Looking forward to "seeing" more of you, too.

59LibraryCin
tammikuu 12, 2017, 10:44pm

My memory feed on facebook reminded me that it was one year ago today that the pink banner of death appeared, sharing the bad news. RIP shelfari. :-(

60Hope_H
tammikuu 13, 2017, 9:23pm

I'm still sad about losing Shelfari. LT works, but it isn't the same.

61LibraryCin
tammikuu 13, 2017, 10:00pm

>60 Hope_H: There are definitely things I miss. I still miss nested threads (though I'm getting used to this).

One thing I find myself missing as I read various books is being able to log into shelfari to see the character list. In case I missed a character's introduction (especially in audio books!), I often would use the character list to figure out (or remind myself) who one of the characters is!

I recently wanted to go into shelfari to add the books mentioned (i.e. "cited") in one of the books I just finished.

I used to do quite a bit of editing of shelfari's book pages. And I used that info (especially the character lists), as well!

62BookConcierge
tammikuu 16, 2017, 3:20pm

>61 LibraryCin:
Yes, I really miss those character lists, too!

63Andrew-theQM
tammikuu 16, 2017, 3:27pm

>61 LibraryCin: >62 BookConcierge: Yep, amazing how many times you want them when they aren't there. I also miss the locations list! Made challenges so much easier!

64ThomasWatson
tammikuu 19, 2017, 10:26am

Dratt! I keep forgetting this is here.

Belated Happy New Year to the rest of the refugees!

65BookConcierge
tammikuu 22, 2017, 10:30am

>61 LibraryCin:
I've been really good about including a location in my tags/shelves (both on Library Thing and GoodReads) for the last year or so. Doesn't help much with older books that I transferred from Shelfari, unless I had also listed a location. I stick to country or, if USA, the state; I don't list cities (except for Washington D.C. so as not to confuse it with the state of Washington)

66Andrew-theQM
Muokkaaja: tammikuu 22, 2017, 11:51am

>65 BookConcierge: That's a good idea. :)

67LibraryCin
tammikuu 22, 2017, 1:43pm

I often use locations as tags, as well. Usually the country (except in the US); for Canadian books,I will use both the country and the province; in the US, I usually use the state or sometimes lump areas together (i.e. New England, American South, etc.). On rare occasions, I will use the city.

68Bettesbooks
tammikuu 30, 2017, 9:28am

>61 LibraryCin: Character lists are available in Common Knowledge but it is up to the members to make the list. I am trying to remember to fill in the locations and characters, but I don't read many mainstream source books I primarily read kindle ebook editions.

69Bettesbooks
tammikuu 30, 2017, 9:30am

>65 BookConcierge: I have been adding locations by tag. I hope to go back at end of year and chart how many countries I have travelled as well as states in the US.

70Andrew-theQM
Muokkaaja: tammikuu 30, 2017, 1:54pm

>69 Bettesbooks: You should join us on our World Challenge on the Mystery and Suspense Extra Group Bette, we are trying to visit countries on continents over a two monthly period. In January and February we are targeting European Countries. So far collectively we have racked up 15 countries in January, our target is 24 countries in Europe before the end of February. Then we move to a new continent in March.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/245008

We move to North America, Central America and the Caribbean in March and April. During this two month period we will also be targeting states in the US.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/244914

71LibraryCin
tammikuu 30, 2017, 7:52pm

>68 Bettesbooks: Thanks, Bette! I have seen that. From what I was told, they are only for names, though, not descriptions of who they are, which is often what I'd like to find out!

72Bettesbooks
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 4, 2017, 11:52pm

>71 LibraryCin: Sorry, I can't remember exactly how they worked on Shelfari, I was thinking you listed a name entered a hyphen, then listed a short description.

I'm not sure but can't we ask to do that here?

73Bettesbooks
helmikuu 4, 2017, 11:53pm

>70 Andrew-theQM:, I'll take a look in. Did you know that the Caribbean Islands are considered part of the North America?

I believe there are something like 43 nations that make up North America such as Aruba.

74amanda4242
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 5, 2017, 12:37am

>72 Bettesbooks: There is a character description section in the upper right of each character page. As an example, the Sherlock Holmes page has a character description and some users have entered very brief info relating to the specific appearance in the "order" section.

75LibraryCin
helmikuu 5, 2017, 1:57pm

>72 Bettesbooks: There were separate "boxes" to enter the name, then the description, on shelfari.

I asked once about doing it here in one of the "official" LT groups and it seemed to be frowned upon. I thought maybe we could do what you've suggested. I can't recall the reason.

Thinking more about it now, it could be that I might have asked if they could add a separate description field, and that was a no. If I could remember where I asked it, I'd point to it, but it was a while ago. If I remember, I'll let you know.

On the other hand, I suppose you could go ahead and do what you're suggesting, anyway. :-) But then, it doesn't really encourage other people to help out, without a specific "field" asking for the info, as well.

76LibraryCin
helmikuu 5, 2017, 2:01pm

>74 amanda4242: I didn't know there were character pages. But then, that would really only refer to the character as a whole in every book, yes? I assume you'd only find that for "popular" characters, as well; less so for minor characters in one book, for instance?

What I tend to use that for (or used, over at shelfari), was more likely for a minor character. I could go find the list of characters for that specific book and be reminded that so-and-so is so-and-so's sister or aunt or whatever the relation might be.

How do you get to those character pages? Thanks.

77amanda4242
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 5, 2017, 7:17pm

>76 LibraryCin: Like most things here, the information available depends on someone taking the time to enter it. In the Common Knowledge section on every work page there is a People/Characters field where you can enter the info. To enter character names, just click on the field and type one name per line; info entered in parentheses after the name will be listed in the "order" section on the character page.

The field isn't limited to major characters, but I wouldn't go overboard adding names since there's no sort (the order you enter the info is the order it's displayed) and adding really minor characters (random waiter, delivery boy, etc.) is frowned upon as it makes it hard to find the characters who are actually relevant to the story/having a meaningful relationship to a major character. The characters don't have to appear in any other books either: for example, I just entered characters for the stand-alone novel Strata, so that will most likely be the only book ever listed on the characters' pages.

After the character's name has been entered and saved on the work page, it turns into a link which will take you to the character's page. On that page, there is a field in the upper right corner to enter a character description.

Hope that helps!

ETA: you may find the Common Knowledge wiki and the Common knowlege group helpful resources.

78LibraryCin
helmikuu 5, 2017, 10:58pm

>77 amanda4242: Thank you. I have seen it and I knew I could enter the names. Good to know I can click on it to get to a character's page (I guess I'd never tried). I guess the next time I am trying to figure out who a character is in a book, I'll check to see if anyone has 1. entered the name and 2. entered a description. I'm not too hopeful that minor characters will have descriptions to help me out, though.

What happens with characters who only have a first name, though... of if there is the same name of a character in two different books. Not the same character, just the same name?

79LibraryCin
helmikuu 5, 2017, 11:03pm

Just playing around with this with the current book I'm reading. None of the characters have descriptions on their pages.

But, I do like clicking on the places and seeing other books listed with that place as one of the book's locations.

80amanda4242
helmikuu 5, 2017, 11:31pm

>78 LibraryCin: For characters with only a first name or a really common one, put some sort of clarifying info, like series name or book title, inside brackets after their name and they'll get their own page.

81LibraryCin
helmikuu 6, 2017, 8:22pm

>80 amanda4242: Thank you!

82Bettesbooks
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 26, 2017, 9:17am

>79 LibraryCin: Just started playing around with the characters and descriptions that you brought up.

It is kinda cool how it works in a series. Check out the LT entry Mechanics of Murder by RaeAnne and A Wrench in the Plan by RaeAnne Hadley. I like the way you can add new characters and show the relationships as the series develops.

I am trying to remember to take the time to add characters and locations to each book as I read it. Only in series will I probably want to go back to older books.

83LibraryCin
helmikuu 26, 2017, 1:22pm

>82 Bettesbooks: I have looked at it a couple of times (though not with a series... I'll check it out), but haven't (yet) added anything. I just might start, though.

84AnitaUnmuted
maaliskuu 26, 2017, 4:08pm

Hello! I haven't been around for a while (health and stuff), so I thought I'd stop in and say hello. Hello! :) I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying the weather whatever it is where you are. We're one week into spring here, and I'm already completely over the summer heat and horrible humidity. SMH

Have a great week!

85JulieLill
heinäkuu 22, 2017, 5:27pm

My photo on my front page is missing and so are some of the pictures from my titles. Is there a problem or is it me?

86MarthaJeanne
Muokkaaja: heinäkuu 22, 2017, 5:32pm

http://www.librarything.com/topic/265644

Seems to be harder to fix than they thought.

87JulieLill
heinäkuu 23, 2017, 7:04pm

My photos are working now so it seems that they fixed it. Thanks!

88LibraryCin
elokuu 27, 2017, 2:24pm

Popped over here to see if there were any posts that I'd missed in this group. Nothing, but it's sure nice looking at the photo of the old shelfari shelf...

89JulieLill
elokuu 27, 2017, 4:53pm

I miss the shelfari bookshelf too!

90Andrew-theQM
elokuu 27, 2017, 5:01pm

91LibraryCin
elokuu 27, 2017, 10:32pm

>90 Andrew-theQM: Yes, that, too.

92Raspberrymocha
elokuu 28, 2017, 9:55pm

Nesting and bookshelves...sigh... "don't know what you've got till its gone."

93BookConcierge
elokuu 31, 2017, 9:25am

I check every week and always love seeing those bookshelves. Gosh, I miss Shelfari.

94LibraryCin
syyskuu 4, 2017, 4:47pm

I can't recall if anyone here is part of the 2017 Challenge group? Or, if there is anyone interested in choosing challenges for next year, the 2018 group is now up and we will start hashing out challenge ideas soon, in case anyone here is interested:

https://www.librarything.com/groups/2018categorychalleng

95BookConcierge
joulukuu 4, 2017, 2:00pm

Oh, My Stars! It's December already .... Hope everyone has a happy holiday season.

96threadnsong
joulukuu 10, 2017, 5:50pm

>94 LibraryCin: Thank you LibraryCin! I'll have to review some of these challenges and see how they can tie into my TBR list.

And I so miss nesting and the lovely LT shelf!

97LibraryCin
joulukuu 10, 2017, 5:57pm

>96 threadnsong: Yeah, I miss the nesting and the shelfari shelf, too!

98BookConcierge
tammikuu 2, 2018, 2:00pm

Happy New Reading Year!

99LibraryCin
tammikuu 2, 2018, 3:40pm

Happy New Year to you, BC, and everyone else!

100BookConcierge
maaliskuu 12, 2018, 4:47pm

Just have to stop in and look at the pretty shelves once in a while.

101LibraryCin
maaliskuu 12, 2018, 7:42pm

>100 BookConcierge: LOL! Good thought!

102BookConcierge
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 10:41am

Sure hope the recent wonkiness here at LT isn't a portent of bad things to come.

103EadieB
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 10:51am

>102 BookConcierge: No I think they were just doing maintenance.

104tealadytoo
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 9, 2018, 11:14am

>103 EadieB: Nah, "unscheduled maintenance" = "CRAP! We broke it!" ;=)

105EadieB
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 11:32am

>104 tealadytoo: They have an app called Litsy (look under the Groups here). I believe they are cleaning up this site because they may have plans to expand Litsy. I seriously do believe they are not closing down but moving forward for the future.

106tealadytoo
Muokkaaja: huhtikuu 9, 2018, 11:44am

Oh, I don't think they have any plans to go away. But I do think there was a serious unintentional meltdown this weekend. No idea what triggered it, but something done for Litsy is certainly a possibility. This stuff just happens sometimes. At least they kept us informed, which was a nice touch.

107EadieB
huhtikuu 9, 2018, 11:45am

>106 tealadytoo: I think they were changing servers.

108BookConcierge
kesäkuu 22, 2018, 9:03am

Just came by to look at the lovely shelves ... I miss Shelfari's shelves!

109Andrew-theQM
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 22, 2018, 1:54pm

110LibraryCin
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 22, 2018, 8:21pm

>108 BookConcierge: Have to admit, I didn't check if the image was copyright protected (oops!), but I'm really glad I looked for such an image to use for this group!

111Auntie-Nanuuq
kesäkuu 23, 2018, 4:11pm

Hello:

Auntie Nanuuq here, I forgot we had a group here...

Mostly I post on Goodreads & on the Goodreads: Bookchat group I created on FB.

112Auntie-Nanuuq
kesäkuu 23, 2018, 4:12pm

Strange: Most all of my covers were imported.

113Auntie-Nanuuq
kesäkuu 23, 2018, 4:13pm

I gave up on Leafmarks, but I do not remember why....

114JulieLill
Muokkaaja: kesäkuu 23, 2018, 6:20pm

>113 Auntie-Nanuuq: I was on Leafmarks and that folded too, so if you gave up on it-don't worry about it!

I come here once in awhile and was quite surprised to see comments!

115LibraryCin
kesäkuu 23, 2018, 10:21pm

>111 Auntie-Nanuuq: Well, welcome back!

116Hope_H
heinäkuu 2, 2018, 9:41pm

>111 Auntie-Nanuuq: Hi Auntie! Nice to see you here!

117Raspberrymocha
syyskuu 4, 2018, 5:03pm

>111 Auntie-Nanuuq: Long time no see!!

118BookConcierge
lokakuu 31, 2018, 10:32am

Happy Halloween, everyone!

119BookConcierge
marraskuu 16, 2018, 10:16am

Hello, everyone.

In the USA we're about to celebrate Thanksgiving. Grocery stores are crowded; all the 'baking' supplies are front and center.

Among the things I'm thankful for are all my Shelfari friends who continue to keep in contact either through Library Thing or GoodReads.

120LibraryCin
marraskuu 16, 2018, 7:16pm

>119 BookConcierge: Hi, BC! Happy (early) Thanksgiving!

121EadieB
marraskuu 16, 2018, 10:02pm

>119 BookConcierge: Happy Thanksgiving!

122BookConcierge
joulukuu 24, 2018, 8:26am

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

123tealadytoo
joulukuu 24, 2018, 11:07am

>122 BookConcierge: Same to you, BC!

124JulieLill
joulukuu 24, 2018, 12:31pm

125Carol420
joulukuu 24, 2018, 3:00pm



Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all my Book Buddies.

126Andrew-theQM
joulukuu 25, 2018, 3:35pm

Merry Christmas, one and all! 🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🍾🥂

127BookConcierge
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 14, 2019, 7:22am

❤ Happy Valentine's Day ❤

Who's your literary crush?

For me it is Atticus Finch from To Kill a Mockingbird ... a man with integrity, calm in the face of danger, able to get along with just about anyone, and always kind.

128JulieLill
helmikuu 10, 2019, 2:49pm

Definitely Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice!

129Raspberrymocha
helmikuu 10, 2019, 7:59pm

Roarke or Cotton Malone.

130ramon4
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 19, 2019, 2:04am

I’m male, so my passions are different. My first literary passion was for Mary Tudor (1496-1533) Queen of France, in the novel ‘When Knighthood Was In Flower’ written by Charles Major in 1898. But I didn’t read it until 1965. She was not the Queen of England known as Bloody Mary, and daughter of Henry VIII, but she was Princes Mary Tudor, sister of Henry VIII. She was head strong, but forced into an arranged married the King of France. She was only married to the King for a short time, when the King died, and she was returned to England. Then she married her own true love, Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk, against the wishes of her brother. They were almost tried for treason.

She is only my first. I have others,… if you are interested.

131ramon4
helmikuu 13, 2019, 7:39pm

Another favorite of mine: Natasha Rostova from War & Peace.

132dustydigger
helmikuu 14, 2019, 4:01am

Raymond Chandler's detective Philip Marlowe,
Georgette Heyer's Duke of Avon and indeed all her regency heroes
Lois McMaster Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan
Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter of Mars
Lindsey Davis' Marcus Didius Falco.
Some of these I have adored for over 55 years!! :0)

133tealadytoo
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 14, 2019, 10:40am

Oh, my.

Captain Wentworth from Austen's Persuasion.
Jack Sinclair from Carla Kelly 's Softly Falling.
John Puller from David Baldacci's Puller series. Zero Day
Benedict from Much Ado About Nothing.

134ramon4
helmikuu 14, 2019, 2:50pm

Last one: The Lady Mariko Buntaro in James Clavell’s Shogun.

135tealadytoo
helmikuu 14, 2019, 5:09pm

Oh, and Rex Stout's Archie Goodwin. :=)

136Molly3028
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 17, 2019, 8:05am

I miss Shelfari very much. Under a different name, I co-administered the main 'What Are You Reading?' group over there for about three years.

137Carol420
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 18, 2019, 2:39pm

I have to go along with >129 Raspberrymocha:. Love that hunky Irishman, Roark!!!

>136 Molly3028: We all have a hole in our hearts where Shelfari used to reside. LibraryThing has been very good to us and I for one am extremely grateful they were here so I can stay in touch with all my friends. Andrew even figured out how we could continue with our book discussions.

138Andrew-theQM
helmikuu 18, 2019, 3:06pm

>136 Molly3028: >137 Carol420: Shelfari 😭😭😭😭😭🤬🤬🤬

139Raspberrymocha
helmikuu 20, 2019, 1:58am

i was thinking about Shelfari and all the online acquaintances whom I miss. i miss the free and easy talk, discussions and down right silliness of Shelfari. LT works for keeping track of books and reading, but it sure doesnt encourage fun social groups of all kinds of readers. I cant navigate GR on my iphone, so I never go there. Besides, I'm still mad at GR for murdering Shelfari.🤷‍♀️

140Hope_H
helmikuu 20, 2019, 10:28pm

>139 Raspberrymocha: . . . . "mad at GR for murdering Shelfari" - LOVE that description! I feel the same way!

141Andrew-theQM
helmikuu 21, 2019, 3:34am

142Raspberrymocha
helmikuu 21, 2019, 1:29pm

Premediated murder at that.

143tealadytoo
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 21, 2019, 1:58pm

>139 Raspberrymocha: >140 Hope_H: >141 Andrew-theQM: Indeed. Though I didn't like the GR platform before it took down Shelfari, that was the arsenic-laden icing on the cake.

144Andrew-theQM
helmikuu 21, 2019, 1:54pm

>139 Raspberrymocha: >140 Hope_H: >143 tealadytoo: That’s what got me, they kept the inferior model!

145Raspberrymocha
helmikuu 21, 2019, 5:49pm

>144 Andrew-theQM: Exactly! Wouldn't it be great if some wellheeled book geeks would revive the Shelfari model for a new book site. I'd be there in a flash. I just don't participte in many groups here. The ones that interest me have gone dormant for the most part. Plus everything seems so ernest and intent in the few chat type groups, where they do not tend to welcome new faces, comments or ideas, much less silliness.

146Andrew-theQM
helmikuu 21, 2019, 5:54pm

>145 Raspberrymocha: Couldn’t agree more and we all need silliness in our lives!

147tealadytoo
Muokkaaja: helmikuu 21, 2019, 6:47pm

>146 Andrew-theQM:. Thank goodness for The Silly Book. One of my all-time favorites. :=)

148BookConcierge
helmikuu 21, 2019, 9:01pm

>139 Raspberrymocha:
Just to be clear Goodreads did NOT murder Shelfari ..... Amazon murdered Shelfari.

Amazon bought both GR and Shelfari and didn't need two platforms. GR was far larger with millions of users so Amazon made a business decision to support the larger, more robust platform.

149Hope_H
helmikuu 21, 2019, 10:55pm

>145 Raspberrymocha: That's one of my goals when I win one of those huge lotteries!

150BookConcierge
elokuu 20, 2019, 3:32pm

It's been a long time since anyone checked in here. Just thought I'd drop in and say, "Hi."

151LibraryCin
elokuu 20, 2019, 7:50pm

>150 BookConcierge: I popped in here within the past couple of weeks, but can't remember if I posted anything (likely not).

I went to check the group page, and got this "error" message:

"The reported error was:

Problem with the concurrent query manager in the LibraryThing Bureau of Garbage Collections.
We have an entire room of trained monkeys working to solve the problem.."

I have to say, LT is amusing where there are errors (or the site is down).

152dustydigger
Muokkaaja: elokuu 20, 2019, 8:09pm

>150 BookConcierge: Hi BC!!!!! Dusty is still here,running a group,recording my reads,but the glory days of chatting are gone.Without nesting its just not easy.We try our best on the Trove (my private group,run on old shelfari lines) but I remember when my group of 22 members back in 2015 regularly posted 1600 posts a month.We are down to about 15 members who post at least monthly,but the numbers of posts are quite low now,only a few 100 posts a month. We still have a chat thread,and manage perhaps 60-80 posts a month there,but we were regularly produced ten times that a month on shelfari and the total posts were over 1600 a month,and we were a small group! 1600 posts a month here on LT would make us one of the most prolific groups,with hundreds of members! lol
It just shows how effective a well organised nesting scenario is to engender a lively active group! Only former members of shelfari can understand it,people here rarely understand. :0(

153tealadytoo
elokuu 21, 2019, 10:35am

"The birds of the air have nests; but the old Shelfarians have no where to lay their posts." Or something like that. ;=)

154BookConcierge
lokakuu 24, 2019, 10:32am

Happy Fall all you Northern Hemisphere Shelfarians. And Happy Spring to our Southern Hemisphere members.

I love the change of seasons, and the crisp, cool days of Autumn.

155tealadytoo
lokakuu 24, 2019, 11:08am

>154 BookConcierge: Absolutely. I enjoy all four seasons, but Fall is my favorite.

156BookConcierge
joulukuu 21, 2019, 5:33pm

Happy holidays to one and all! I'm spending some time with my family (and also a former Shelfari friend whom I met in person one year!)

Enjoy the blessings of the season.

See you next year!

157LibraryCin
joulukuu 21, 2019, 11:54pm

>156 BookConcierge: Merry Christmas! Enjoy your time with your family, and your shelfari friend! (Curious who that might be... if you're willing to share!)

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everyone else, as well!

158dustydigger
Muokkaaja: joulukuu 23, 2019, 5:54pm

I blinked and missed autumn this year. We had week after week of endless wind and rain,the dirty brown leaves dropped off all mushy and nasty.Never once managed to walk through drifts of crisp colourful leaves this year! lol.Its still raining on and off and some areas of UK are flooded,ruining Xmas for many. So sad.
Anyhoo Happy holidays/Merry Xmas to everyone. Hope you get some great books .I put out strong hints for book vouchers,and am enjoying planning what to buy :0)
Just finished the last books of my multitude of challenges on LT. The Century of Books (reading a book for each year 1920-2019) was pretty tough going at times .As was my 80 book SF/Fantasy challenge over on Worlds Without End,though fortunately there was a lot of overlap. But it did take reading over 190 books to finish my challenges I intend to be a bit more relaxed this year,but unfortunately I can rarely resist a challenge,and always end up biting off almost more than I can chew!
A lot of former shelfarians congregate on Read It,Track It to record our reading. Hope to see you all there next month.
New decade,lots of books. Cant wait!

159tealadytoo
joulukuu 23, 2019, 6:27pm

The best holiday gift is new books, for sure! Can't wait to see what comes my way.

160BookConcierge
tammikuu 9, 2020, 5:11pm

>157 LibraryCin:
I met w/ Diana S and Marilyn - both people I met through Shelfari and now we meet in person whenever I'm in SAT.

161BookConcierge
maaliskuu 18, 2020, 5:19pm

Hope everyone is staying safe during the pandemic. Be kind to one another. Read books. Wash your hands.

162LibraryCin
maaliskuu 18, 2020, 6:12pm

>161 BookConcierge: Have to admit, I haven't yet changed much. Things are really starting to change this week. My book club all decided they'd rather meet online this week, so that happened via f/b this week. My volunteering is cancelled the next two weeks. At work, we are setting up to work from home. I expect that won't start till Monday.

I do take public transit, but to be honest, so many other people are staying home that there are very few people on the buses and trains. There is lots of space for "social distancing".

I'm sad that my public library has now closed. I had just gone through most of my monthly challenges to pick out what I'd read next month, but I will have to try again and substitute anything that was originally going to be a physical book from the library. I am concerned that the already busy ebooks and audios will be even harder to come by now, as well.

For the most part, I'm young(ish!) and healthy, so I have to admit I've not been worried.

163BookConcierge
maaliskuu 25, 2020, 9:56am

Update from Wisconsin, March 25. The Governor has issued a "safer at home" order, effective now through April 24. (He dislikes the phrases "shelter in place" or "lockdown" ... considering both to be unnecessarily alarming to the public. Whatever he calls it, it's the same thing.) Won't be much change from what Hubby and I have been doing the past week (we go out for a grocery / pharmacy / hardware run ... and once got a carry-out food order, delivered to our car, "curbside"). I'm distressed that bookstores weren't on the "essential" list. My indie bookseller has been closed to in-store browsing for a week already (voluntarily), but offering curbside pick-up or local delivery. Now he'll have to shut entirely. I don't think his business will survive.

164BookConcierge
maaliskuu 30, 2020, 10:20am

Update on my local indie bookseller. He was granted an "essential educational resource" exemption! He can only provide curbside pick-up, but at least we can still order books. He is not accepting any used books for turn-in at this point.

165BookConcierge
marraskuu 26, 2020, 10:34am

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the USA (and elsewhere).

I'm particularly thankful for robust "virtual" book clubs and all my on-line reading friends.

166LibraryCin
marraskuu 26, 2020, 4:53pm

Happy Thanksgiving to you, BC, and anyone else in the US!

167BookConcierge
joulukuu 21, 2020, 10:36am

Happy Holidays to all. Be safe ... live to enjoy future holiday seasons.

168Raspberrymocha
joulukuu 21, 2020, 11:06am

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

169tealadytoo
joulukuu 21, 2020, 11:44am

Happy Holidays, All!

170JulieLill
joulukuu 24, 2020, 2:09pm

Happy Holidays to everyone!

171Andrew-theQM
joulukuu 25, 2020, 8:09am

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone. 🎄🎅🎄🎅🎄🎅

172LibraryCin
joulukuu 25, 2020, 2:08pm

Merry Christmas!

173dustydigger
tammikuu 17, 8:22am

5 years this week since the notorious Pink Banner appeared on Shelfari.Its been a rocky road,but I finally got used to LT,had all my elements sorted for my convenience and ease of use - and now they've changed everything again! Aarrgghh!!!!!!!.
You know me and lists,I use so many,and do challenges,tabled normallyjust below currently active topic threads.Everything else I ''ignored'' at the end of each monthkept it all neat and important stuff in sight. All scattered to the winds now,I have to click on to separate pages and do lots more clicking to see my lists. I sometimes have to have up to 5 tabs open to have all my info in view. And as for old lists from early years its a pain scrolling down pages to find lists from way back,when last week they were on a few threads down the group page.Annoying.
2020 was a rocky year,and unbelievably 2021 started off even worse! lol. But there are hopes for the future. I long for the day libraries will be fully open (I havent been in one for a full year. Nightmare.) and that with vaccine protection I can once again roam the aisles looking for the next great read!

174LibraryCin
Muokkaaja: tammikuu 17, 3:16pm

And many of us were also getting used to leafmarks before that was pulled out from under us a few months(?) after shelfari died. :-( Still miss shelfari.

ETA: And can you believe it's been 5 years!!!?

175JulieLill
tammikuu 17, 4:33pm

I miss Shelfari too!

176Andrew-theQM
tammikuu 18, 8:01pm

Shelfari 😢

177BookConcierge
tammikuu 19, 9:22am

Yes, I miss my pretty shelves on Shelfari. So glad Cindy saved a screen shot that we can use here for our logo!

Nice to hear from you Dusty! We're obviously not in any of the same groups here. I spend most of my time on GoodReads. I was using that site concurrently w/ Shelfari and very familiar with layout, etc, so it was an easier transition for me. I do like having a back-up, and that's why I also maintain my books read list here as well.

As for tracking my challenges .... I use excel spreadsheets. And yes, I do sometimes have to have multiple tabs open, but that's okay with me.

178LibraryCin
tammikuu 19, 5:05pm

>177 BookConcierge: (Shhhh - should I admit that I probably found that one online? But, I did save a lot of screenshots, actually. Hmmm, I probably could have used my own for our logo here!)