Spam reporting thread #45
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1lilithcat
PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
9Taphophile13
bot; multiple threads
https://www.librarything.com/profile/alexwon010
https://www.librarything.com/profile/alexwon010
11MsMaryAnn
Spam link in profile picture comment
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ufc193
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ufc193
16MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/profile/HJGuioui
Korean. Don't know why they are getting through today.
Gone. They don't last long, anyway.
Korean. Don't know why they are getting through today.
Gone. They don't last long, anyway.
17rybie2
http://www.librarything.com/topic/205601#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/vfdss
Ug, I mean hooray! Both gone before I posted this message.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/vfdss
Ug, I mean hooray! Both gone before I posted this message.
21MsMaryAnn
>20 2wonderY: Unless the profile needs more flags, it appears the spam is stuck! I flagged quite a few of the posts but even I have my limit!
22CurrerBell
>20 2wonderY: >21 MsMaryAnn: I flagged every post and the profile's still up there. I'm still working on my "Talk Spam-Fighting" badge to move up from silver to gold, though, so this guy's like shooting fish in a barrel. :-)
232wonderY
>22 CurrerBell: You did good work, young man. Profile is now gone.
262wonderY
spam group
http://www.librarything.com/groups/naturalingredientsan
and the new member who created it
http://www.librarything.com/profile/croushyvenue
http://www.librarything.com/groups/naturalingredientsan
and the new member who created it
http://www.librarything.com/profile/croushyvenue
28rybie2
Spam links in profile pics.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wangfei2048
Edit: oops, repeat of >27 2wonderY:.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wangfei2048
Edit: oops, repeat of >27 2wonderY:.
29MsMaryAnn
There are 4 profiles that are still visible on the Spam? page and 1 spam post still wants rescuing even though the poster has been removed. Not sure if they need flags or if they are stuck.
30Lyndatrue
>29 MsMaryAnn: I noticed earlier that the processes that handle this seemed to have come unstuck in time (so to speak). Someone should probably poke Tim on this; it looks like a process needs to be restarted somewhere.
31MsMaryAnn
>30 Lyndatrue: I left Tim a message.
32MsMaryAnn
>31 MsMaryAnn: The profiles are gone. Thank you, Tim.
35Louve_de_mer
This member : https://www.librarything.com/profile/veditrungquoc
In the "about me" section, this : "Chuyên cung cấpvé máy bay đi Trung Quốc của các hãng hàng không. Với giá thấp và sự chuyên nghiệp đem đến cho bạn sự hài lòng. Xem thêm tại lòng. http://vietrip.vn/viet-nam/phan-thiet/p/vinh-suong-seaside-resort-mui-ne/h/#.Vk6..."
means :
"Professionals offer Book flights to China by the airlines. With low prices and professionalism gives you satisfaction. More at http://vietrip.vn/viet-nam/phan-thiet/p/vinh-suong-seaside-resort-mui-ne/h/#.Vk6..." (Google traduction)
In the "about me" section, this : "Chuyên cung cấpvé máy bay đi Trung Quốc của các hãng hàng không. Với giá thấp và sự chuyên nghiệp đem đến cho bạn sự hài lòng. Xem thêm tại lòng. http://vietrip.vn/viet-nam/phan-thiet/p/vinh-suong-seaside-resort-mui-ne/h/#.Vk6..."
means :
"Professionals offer Book flights to China by the airlines. With low prices and professionalism gives you satisfaction. More at http://vietrip.vn/viet-nam/phan-thiet/p/vinh-suong-seaside-resort-mui-ne/h/#.Vk6..." (Google traduction)
39rybie2
Favorite books for 4th graders spam genre, http://www.librarything.com/topic/205871
http://www.librarything.com/profile/shozomb4673ur
ETA: spam post finally gone, but spammer account needs more flags, apparently
http://www.librarything.com/profile/shozomb4673ur
ETA: spam post finally gone, but spammer account needs more flags, apparently
41rybie2
Books for flipping' first graders (instead of fourth graders): http://www.librarything.com/topic/205932
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ymaine35
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ymaine35
42MarthaJeanne
Is there really a point in reporting things here that are already in the spam area?
43rybie2
>42 MarthaJeanne: I didn't think so because the new system has been pretty efficient, and thus haven't done it much. That is, until yesterday when some took forEVER to get "headstoned," especially the spammers, so I posted this one here.
44klarusu
>43 rybie2: Yep, it took quite a while for them to 'die' yesterday. Nearly did the same thing myself for a couple.
46MarthaJeanne
Gone
492wonderY
spam profile
Translation of about me is "Seo firms in general all of Turkey in Ankara are working to make the first page SEO consulting services along with corporate Seo service."
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ankaraseo
Translation of about me is "Seo firms in general all of Turkey in Ankara are working to make the first page SEO consulting services along with corporate Seo service."
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ankaraseo
50MarthaJeanne
Author spam https://www.librarything.com/topic/206064
Gone
(don't flag https://www.librarything.com/profile/timcameron1)
Gone
(don't flag https://www.librarything.com/profile/timcameron1)
51Lyndatrue
I left a message on Tim's profile earlier, but just want to suggest that to visiting the spam area and flagging the obvious candidates might be helpful.
They don't seem to be going away, and haven't been most of the day. My guess is it's a server issue, but who can say?
They don't seem to be going away, and haven't been most of the day. My guess is it's a server issue, but who can say?
53.Monkey.
>51 Lyndatrue: I noticed there were 3 names that sat all day, dunno what was up with that!
54rybie2
Spam profiles with spam links:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/John_Thomas_Lee
http://www.librarything.com/profile/boomvo
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ShaAli
http://www.librarything.com/profile/weldingschoolsguide
PS: >51 Lyndatrue:, >53 .Monkey.: Yeah, spammer profiles are still there after a day; they aren't being headstoned like they used to, and it takes a long time for the spam posts to go away, too.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/John_Thomas_Lee
http://www.librarything.com/profile/boomvo
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ShaAli
http://www.librarything.com/profile/weldingschoolsguide
PS: >51 Lyndatrue:, >53 .Monkey.: Yeah, spammer profiles are still there after a day; they aren't being headstoned like they used to, and it takes a long time for the spam posts to go away, too.
55.Monkey.
Yeah after posting I went to check and saw more had been added to the lingering pile. :/ At least they're relegated to the spam area.
ETA
Yikes, ShaAli is not only a spammer but trying to freaking sell email lists. Disgusting. Go flag their works as spam, too, folks! (And Rybie, you didn't vote!)
ETA
Yikes, ShaAli is not only a spammer but trying to freaking sell email lists. Disgusting. Go flag their works as spam, too, folks! (And Rybie, you didn't vote!)
56CurrerBell
Problem with these "spammers" is that their posts have been tombstoned so I can't read them. Even when I can tell from the subject line that the post was almost certainly spam, I'm really reluctant to flag an account like a lemming without actually seeing the spam itself.
57rybie2
>55 .Monkey.: Ah, you noticed? That's my routine. When I flag a work as spam, I usually leave it to 4 other members to vote on it. I'll vote on the works I flag as spam only if there's some uncertainty by others, but I have no problems voting on works flagged by others. If I had to explain why, I suppose I'd say that with a lower threshold for squashing spam works (4 vs. 8 votes for photo flagging, for example), I've already put my opinion out there, and others can weigh in.
58Taphophile13
ShaAli's "reviews" have just disappeared but the profile is still there.
59.Monkey.
I could understand not voting on something that was questionable, but clear-cut ought to always be voted on, get it gone!
60MsMaryAnn
>58 Taphophile13: >59 .Monkey.: It looks like spam profiles are stuck whether in the spam area or not. It irritates me that they aren't six feet under yet. Grrr.
61Lyndatrue
I suspect that whatever's stuck is going to stay stuck until today ends. Too bad, too, since that means those profiles can just go on misbehaving. The topics showing as tombstoned are gone, but if the profile is redflagged, then it's still able to spew. :-(
I dunno. Maybe someone wants to try sending an email to the info account? Maybe Seth (aka sryder)? I'm not volunteering to do this, merely pointing it out as a potential avenue.
I dunno. Maybe someone wants to try sending an email to the info account? Maybe Seth (aka sryder)? I'm not volunteering to do this, merely pointing it out as a potential avenue.
62.Monkey.
It's a holiday. They're stuck in the spam area, and not making new posts. Relax, they'll get to it when they have time.
66MarthaJeanne
Author spam
http://www.librarything.com/topic/206203
Already has a note from Lorannen from the last time s/he tried it.
Gone.
BTW, the author just sent me the following message:
Today, 9:09am
I'm not spamming I'm just trying to get some feedback on my book that's not spamming
For what it's worth, the $10.99 paperback (36 pages long) is written with the same disregard for grammar and punctuation. The author is the only LT member to have entered it.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/206203
Already has a note from Lorannen from the last time s/he tried it.
Gone.
BTW, the author just sent me the following message:
Today, 9:09am
I'm not spamming I'm just trying to get some feedback on my book that's not spamming
For what it's worth, the $10.99 paperback (36 pages long) is written with the same disregard for grammar and punctuation. The author is the only LT member to have entered it.
672wonderY
>66 MarthaJeanne: "36 pages long"
Well, at least s/he stopped when s/he had no more to say. That's better than most.
Well, at least s/he stopped when s/he had no more to say. That's better than most.
68Lyndatrue
Sorry, folks, I figured out who it was, and flagged the account. Yeah, I'm heartless. No, I'm not naming names (I actually searched through the URL history to find it, and it'll take work by anyone else who is thinking about flagging it).
There comes a time when "enthusiastic author" no longer excuses bad behavior. There are so many over there in the Hobnob with Authors group trying to do the right thing; I see no reason to give any further kindness or courtesy to someone who clearly doesn't grasp even the vague principles of how to behave in society.
There comes a time when "enthusiastic author" no longer excuses bad behavior. There are so many over there in the Hobnob with Authors group trying to do the right thing; I see no reason to give any further kindness or courtesy to someone who clearly doesn't grasp even the vague principles of how to behave in society.
69.Monkey.
It's not about being heartless or not, we are explicitly told not to flag overzealous authors, but to let staff deal with it.
ETA
Off the flagging page itself, in big bold letters:
Important rules
Flagging is for commercial spam only.
Overzealous bookstores, authors and publishers should be reported by email.
Misuse of this feature is a violation of the Terms of Use.
ETA
Off the flagging page itself, in big bold letters:
Important rules
Flagging is for commercial spam only.
Overzealous bookstores, authors and publishers should be reported by email.
Misuse of this feature is a violation of the Terms of Use.
70MarthaJeanne
You can find the name more easily than that. I haven't flagged the profile yet, but if s/he spams again, I won't hesitate.
71Lyndatrue
I understand and agree (usually) with the arguments against flagging authors. In this case, I claim it is the right thing to do. This is not someone who intends to change. I prefer to encourage the putative author to move elsewhere. I didn't name the profile deliberately, since the number of "flag without question" folks might have gone off and done so, and (especially in this case) it ought to be a deliberate act, with awareness that sometimes there is an exception to everything.
This is one of them.
{It is as much to encourage the positive behavior as it is to punish the negative in this case. We have a little community of struggling authors over on the Hobnob groups. Many of them started out making a similar mistake, and changed their ways. One truly believes in the metaphor implied in discussions of the tragedy of the commons. The "September that never ended" is a prime example.}
This is one of them.
{It is as much to encourage the positive behavior as it is to punish the negative in this case. We have a little community of struggling authors over on the Hobnob groups. Many of them started out making a similar mistake, and changed their ways. One truly believes in the metaphor implied in discussions of the tragedy of the commons. The "September that never ended" is a prime example.}
72.Monkey.
I am by no means suggesting bad behavior be ignored. But the terms state that it is staff who is to deal with them, and that flagging them is itself a TOS violation. You are meant to let Loranne know and let her deal with it, not to flag yourself.
842wonderY
spam profiles for the day
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Vinta
http://www.librarything.com/profile/drshahidi
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Vinta
http://www.librarything.com/profile/drshahidi
872wonderY
author spam, though not very effective
http://www.librarything.com/topic/206558#
I left a note on her profile.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/206558#
I left a note on her profile.
88lilithcat
"Brain Booster Pills"?? "Wrinkles of Devotion"???
https://www.librarything.com/topic/206588
https://www.librarything.com/profile/larawarner
https://www.librarything.com/topic/206588
https://www.librarything.com/profile/larawarner
93MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/topic/206671
http://www.librarything.com/profile/slkysmithh
Gone. the previous one, too.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/slkysmithh
Gone. the previous one, too.
94MarthaJeanne
I saved one tonight! First time I've been able/had to do that.
97MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/groups/mappingmanager
http://www.librarything.com/profile/AnalytiXDS
Already gone. Very fast. Too fast?
http://www.librarything.com/profile/AnalytiXDS
Already gone. Very fast. Too fast?
102MarthaJeanne
If the spam is right here, we can flag it quickly.
1042wonderY
New strategy for spammers? Lots and lots of posts in ongoing threads. Seems the new system is taking care of those adequately. Thank you Tim!
112lilithcat
Creator of a spam venue (http://www.librarything.com/venue/98829/Celebrate-It) which I have archived:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Italo-Andrade
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Italo-Andrade
114CurrerBell
http://www.librarything.com/topic/207080
Self-promoting author. Post flagged but no flag to member.
ETA: Same poster: http://www.librarything.com/topic/207078
http://www.librarything.com/topic/207076
Have not sent private message to him. At this hour of morning, I'm too cranky and I'll leave explanation of TOS to someone who can be more diplomatic.
Self-promoting author. Post flagged but no flag to member.
ETA: Same poster: http://www.librarything.com/topic/207078
http://www.librarything.com/topic/207076
Have not sent private message to him. At this hour of morning, I'm too cranky and I'll leave explanation of TOS to someone who can be more diplomatic.
115MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/topic/207079
Author spam. Probably the same member.
Author, for reference only.(http://www.librarything.com/profile/HaithamAlsarraf)
Author spam. Probably the same member.
Author, for reference only.(http://www.librarything.com/profile/HaithamAlsarraf)
116Lyndatrue
>114 CurrerBell: and >115 MarthaJeanne: I'm finding it amusing that the two books authored actually appear in multiple copies in his library.
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/HaithamAlsarraf&collection=-1&deepse...
There's actually another member (not the same one) that has each book. On the other hand, at least he's not rating or reviewing his own books. I'm kind of disappointed not to have seen the author spam (curiosity, more than anything).
Hopefully he's seeing that this approach is not going to work out.
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/HaithamAlsarraf&collection=-1&deepse...
There's actually another member (not the same one) that has each book. On the other hand, at least he's not rating or reviewing his own books. I'm kind of disappointed not to have seen the author spam (curiosity, more than anything).
Hopefully he's seeing that this approach is not going to work out.
117.Monkey.
He added them on .com, .co.uk, and the .com books music movies source. Nothing amusing about it, he simply doesn't understand how catalogs here work.
118MarthaJeanne
Fairly long post advertising free book through Amazon.
122klarusu
>121 anglemark: Not sure that really counted as Spam - counterflagged the post but by the time I went back to the member, they'd both been killed ...
124MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Mehabel
https://www.librarything.com/topic/207160
Shouldn't be any question about this 'bug'.
Gone.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/207160
Shouldn't be any question about this 'bug'.
Gone.
125anglemark
>123 .Monkey.: Drive-by registrant posting link to youtube video promoting his religious leader. But OK, if the spammer isn't selling anything, it isn't spam? I'm still learning, I guess.
127gilroy
>125 anglemark: Enough people thought it was spam that it no longer exists. That's all that matters.
128.Monkey.
>125 anglemark: I would call that spam. If they were in a religious group and made an effort to engage while sharing a vid, maybe, though as a first post I'd still be iffy. But just a random religious clickbait for views? Nope, spam.
129anglemark
>127 gilroy: Sure, but someone posting the links here might lower the bar.
>128 .Monkey.: That's what I thought as well. In any case, next time I'll post in the Is this spam? thread first.
>128 .Monkey.: That's what I thought as well. In any case, next time I'll post in the Is this spam? thread first.
130lilithcat
>127 gilroy:
That's not all that matters. I have seen posts/profiles/groups that weren't spam flagged because people didn't bother to check and just jumped the gun.
That's not all that matters. I have seen posts/profiles/groups that weren't spam flagged because people didn't bother to check and just jumped the gun.
131gilroy
>130 lilithcat:
That assumes all the flags came from here.
(I never saw post or user.) For all we know, the group members killed it.
That assumes all the flags came from here.
(I never saw post or user.) For all we know, the group members killed it.
132klarusu
>123 .Monkey.: & >125 anglemark: It was a link to a YouTube video about BKS Iyengar, commenting on the fact that he's also the Google doodle today because it's would have been his 97th birthday today, also mentioning that he wrote a lot of books (which he did). In Book Talk ... which is a general catch all. Maybe the poster was 'drive-by' but they weren't selling or converting and if it's Google doodle for the day, it's hardly random. Not saying it added much but to the discussion but I wouldn't say it was obvious Spam personally. Moot anyway ... gone now.
138Yamanekotei
How do I rescue topics and profiles from Spam? thread? There are two topics right now.
140Yamanekotei
Thank you!
142MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/groups/asyoubegintoageyours
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wenadyjuriyam
Do these under eye luggage give you sleepless nights?
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wenadyjuriyam
Do these under eye luggage give you sleepless nights?
144aeclark
No doubt the author is proud to be on the list. Publishers Weekly is a legitimate publication though, so I don't think it qualifies as spam.
146Lyndatrue
>143 2wonderY: It's my favorite kind of "author" too. One who gives five stars to all the books she's written, and (in addition) it turns out that she's added the book she wrote multiple times, giving it five stars each time. I'm thinking about leaving a message on her profile, but then, she's been here long enough to understand that attempting to game the system might not work out in the way she'd intended, or hoped.
Bleagh.
Bleagh.
147Lyndatrue
>144 aeclark: I'd be more inclined to give the author charity if she hadn't also added three reviews for this book (two of which are not reviews, but merely the same list provided in the topic above). In addition, one of the other reviewers, seems to be the author, using a free account.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Cindyc2015
Man, it just makes me sad when someone decides to do this kind of thing. It really does.
Double bleagh.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Cindyc2015
Man, it just makes me sad when someone decides to do this kind of thing. It really does.
Double bleagh.
1492wonderY
And more than likely, another sock puppet:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/LiteraryPicks
http://www.librarything.com/profile/LiteraryPicks
150MarthaJeanne
Sad really. If the author feels she has to enter her book 6 times, giving it 5 stars, to get a good rating, even without the suspected sock puppets, you know it has to be awful garbage.
152Lyndatrue
Crap! I had a long, drawn out, public comment that I was leaving on her profile, and cleverly closed the tab. I'm going to rewrite it here, and then copy and paste it there.
Please understand that I'm telling you this with as much kindness as I can muster.
Please note that your topic was deleted, and your group is headed in that direction as well. It is apparent that you have created at least two accounts, and that they have multiple "copies" of your book, which they've reviewed, and given five stars. In addition, you seem to have six copies yourself (note that your reviews have been flagged out of visibility for violations of the LT Terms of Service).
In general, self-promotion by authors is not welcomed here on LibraryThing, except for the very pleasant group called Hobnob with Authors (http://www.librarything.com/groups/hobnobwithauthors), which I recommend you join.
You started off so well here on LT. You may have let your enthusiasm for your new book lead you into pushing the envelope here.
I strongly recommend the following: Delete the copies of your books from your two other accounts, and then delete the accounts. Delete all but one of the copies from your own library, and your review, and the five stars you've given it. It will sink or rise on its own virtue, and it will have more chance of being welcomed here if you don't appear to be stacking the deck in its favor.
No need to reply.
I made it private, instead.
ETA: Interesting. Either she, or someone, deleted those two accounts we'd noticed. Oh, no, wait. They just got made private.
Please understand that I'm telling you this with as much kindness as I can muster.
Please note that your topic was deleted, and your group is headed in that direction as well. It is apparent that you have created at least two accounts, and that they have multiple "copies" of your book, which they've reviewed, and given five stars. In addition, you seem to have six copies yourself (note that your reviews have been flagged out of visibility for violations of the LT Terms of Service).
In general, self-promotion by authors is not welcomed here on LibraryThing, except for the very pleasant group called Hobnob with Authors (http://www.librarything.com/groups/hobnobwithauthors), which I recommend you join.
You started off so well here on LT. You may have let your enthusiasm for your new book lead you into pushing the envelope here.
I strongly recommend the following: Delete the copies of your books from your two other accounts, and then delete the accounts. Delete all but one of the copies from your own library, and your review, and the five stars you've given it. It will sink or rise on its own virtue, and it will have more chance of being welcomed here if you don't appear to be stacking the deck in its favor.
No need to reply.
I made it private, instead.
ETA: Interesting. Either she, or someone, deleted those two accounts we'd noticed. Oh, no, wait. They just got made private.
155amysisson
http://www.librarything.com/profile/lendless22
Tons of posts caught with the spam life preserver. Hoping a few more flags on profile will knock those out.
Tons of posts caught with the spam life preserver. Hoping a few more flags on profile will knock those out.
156Taphophile13
Korean casino
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314886
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314877
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314862
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314831
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314828
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314820
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314717
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314664
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919421/book/124314657
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919416/book/124314641
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919408/book/124314617
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919421/book/124314598
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314564
https://www.librarything.com/work/book/124314800
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jacksonlawrence
Help, please. Is anyone here?
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314886
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314877
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314862
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314831
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314828
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314820
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314717
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314664
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919421/book/124314657
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919416/book/124314641
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919408/book/124314617
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919421/book/124314598
https://www.librarything.com/work/16919435/book/124314564
https://www.librarything.com/work/book/124314800
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jacksonlawrence
Help, please. Is anyone here?
158Taphophile13
>157 yolana: Many thanks. Flagging the profile is the most important. I'm flagging the books too because they haven't disappeared yet.
159yolana
https://www.librarything.com/profile/kkimchie lingering korean spam in book talk
160Taphophile13
>159 yolana: Gone!
161Taphophile13
Why is https://www.librarything.com/profile/jacksonlawrence still going?
Have they found a way around Tim's new spam filters?
Have they found a way around Tim's new spam filters?
162Taphophile13
Many of the casino ads are suppressed but the profile still needs flagging.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jacksonlawrence
https://www.librarything.com/profile/jacksonlawrence
163Lyndatrue
I think that this is going to take manual intervention, either by Tim, or someone with his powers. I'm sure that the profile should have been suppressed by now, and yet it is not.
164Yamanekotei
I am trying to flag the works this spammer registered, but I can't find how. If the profile is gone, are all the works also gone? Probably not, huh...?┐(´д`)┌
165Lyndatrue
The jacksonlawrence profile finally died. Whew. The "books" in that library had already been suppressed as spam (although I admit I didn't check every single one).
167MarthaJeanne
Those are gone.
169rybie2
Spammer http://www.librarything.com/profile/expozzer needs flagging.
And, if you're inclined to vote on spam works, his 30+ entries could also benefit from a swift demise.
And, if you're inclined to vote on spam works, his 30+ entries could also benefit from a swift demise.
171Lyndatrue
>169 rybie2: A spammer that takes the time to choose a display for books is one determined spammer. Member since Oct 29; guess they had time to learn their way around a tiny bit.
ETA: At least the reviews have been flagged into invisibility.
ETA: At least the reviews have been flagged into invisibility.
172rybie2
>171 Lyndatrue: Now I guess we just need to reach critical flagging mass to get the profile removed before he adds more, or even undoes the votes on the spam works.
173rybie2
Is there a way to handle spam lists? I've just come across http://www.librarything.com/list/10580/all/Live%23TV%23%7D%3E-Dallas-Cowboys-vs-... created by spammer http://www.librarything.com/profile/R.a._Rotan.
Edit: maybe I found my own answer; I flagged the profile and now I don't see the list anymore
Edit: maybe I found my own answer; I flagged the profile and now I don't see the list anymore
175MarthaJeanne
>174 henkl: gone.
176henkl
>175 MarthaJeanne: Very fast!
179yolana
https://www.librarything.com/profile/fdryt995
another took its place, not quite sure how they're slipping through.
another took its place, not quite sure how they're slipping through.
181yolana
https://www.librarything.com/profile/e99FGFfr668
another korean bot slipped through. I think our spam dragnet thingy is not working this morning.
another korean bot slipped through. I think our spam dragnet thingy is not working this morning.
182MarthaJeanne
Yes, there were several earlier as well.
183MarthaJeanne
We're getting Koreans in talk again today. The current one is
http://www.librarything.com/profile/fgvffvbbbfdrer
http://www.librarything.com/profile/fgvffvbbbfdrer
186TimSharrock
http://www.librarything.com/profile/gammysmith085
"Special Monday Movies"...
"Special Monday Movies"...
188MsMaryAnn
Muscle building supplement
http://www.librarything.com/groups/tashajuriya
http://www.librarything.com/profile/tashajuriya
Edit: Gone already!
http://www.librarything.com/groups/tashajuriya
http://www.librarything.com/profile/tashajuriya
Edit: Gone already!
192Yamanekotei
http://www.librarything.com/profile/dfdfdfghfyhg
http://www.librarything.com/profile/fsdsfddcdds
They are still hanging around.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/fsdsfddcdds
They are still hanging around.
195Lyndatrue
I may not understand a lot of French, but this one's pretty obvious.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/209295#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/erinwongg
ETA: Gone. Outta here. Done. Over.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/209295#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/erinwongg
ETA: Gone. Outta here. Done. Over.
197rybie2
>196 amanda4242: Gonzo,
2042wonderY
spam profile, more obvious in the picture remarks
http://www.librarything.com/pic/5119803
http://www.librarything.com/profile/new2cars
http://www.librarything.com/pic/5119803
http://www.librarything.com/profile/new2cars
218lilithcat
Oy, gevalt!
https://www.librarything.com/profile/HJKHERoiop
https://www.librarything.com/profile/vfdgr
And their many posts. Korean bots again.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/HJKHERoiop
https://www.librarything.com/profile/vfdgr
And their many posts. Korean bots again.
219Taphophile13
bots; multiple threads
https://www.librarything.com/profile/HJKHERoiop
https://www.librarything.com/profile/vfdgr
already gone!
https://www.librarything.com/profile/HJKHERoiop
https://www.librarything.com/profile/vfdgr
already gone!
223Lyndatrue
Well, *that* was unpleasant. We've gotten spoiled. I wonder how they're getting around things, though...
Tämä viestiketju jatkuu täällä: Spam reporting thread #46.