Spam reporting thread #43

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Spam reporting thread #43

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Muokkaaja: lokakuu 17, 2015, 4:45 pm

Procedures for reporting spam
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 17, 2015, 3:32 pm

Viestin kirjoittaja on poistanut viestin.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 17, 2015, 3:53 pm

Once it has gotten to friending messages to those warning her about spamming and putting her book covers up on group pages I think it fair to flag as a spammer.

The spam pictures are at

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 17, 2015, 4:19 pm

>3 MarthaJeanne: Where is the option to flag the picture as spam? I'll happily do that (such a *rude* person deserves no less), but I don't understand how to do this. I've already flagged her profile.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 17, 2015, 4:59 pm

> 4

You cannot flag a profile or group image, only venue and author images.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 17, 2015, 11:54 pm

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 18, 2015, 12:23 am

multiple thread BOT

15 threads and counting

lokakuu 18, 2015, 12:35 am

Is anyone else here? The bots are proliferating too fast.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 12:37 am

Only one of the profiles is banned; the others still need flagging.

Off to flag topics (sometimes that seems to help).

lokakuu 18, 2015, 12:45 am

All gone.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 12:45 am

Finally. At least for now. Many of the profiles still need more flags, though.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 18, 2015, 12:53 am

It's going to be a long, long night...

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 18, 2015, 1:08 am

can't flag it but at least the bot has been suspended

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 18, 2015, 1:08 am

>26 Taphophile13: How do we even flag that? My head hurts.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 1:09 am

apparently the spammer forgot to include the annoying message or maybe didn't post correctly
I think the admins will have to kill it

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 18, 2015, 1:11 am

>29 Taphophile13: Sorry to abandon you. Hopefully the worst is over (but I doubt it).

lokakuu 18, 2015, 1:13 am

>30 Lyndatrue: I understand. It's after my bedtime too. I did send a message to Tim about that unflaggable post.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 1:53 am

I think the interminable bot onslaughts lately are unbearable and beyond our pay grade to regulate, especially since there are mechanisms in place for new members to prove they're "human." Or am I missing something?

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 18, 2015, 4:51 am

>32 rybie2: There are? Since when? Afaik you don't need anything more than to type a username & pw (x2) to sign up, and then start posting.

Meanwhile, another one:

lokakuu 18, 2015, 4:52 am

Maybe new members ought to have to prove their humanity for each post.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 4:27 pm

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:00 pm

>34 .Monkey.: I thought that, as part of the registration, a joining member had to type in the name of the author shown on a randomly selected book cover (to "prove you're human" or something like that) before their account was activated. I can't remember when or how Tim made that happen, but maybe someone else does or wants to do the Talk search for it. Anyway, if that IS the case, however, I guess that could still mean that a person opens the account, then hands it over to a bot which is free to go hog wild.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:05 pm

>53 Taphophile13:

"Certified Natural Hair Coach and Personal Trainer (whatever that is)"

This IS an author with genuine works, so does she have spam activity which isn't apparent on the profile linked?

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:17 pm

>56 rybie2: This is not how it currently works, nor (to my knowledge) is it planned.

There's nothing at all that creating an account has, other than the act of doing so. Trust me, as quick as new bots show up (when we're dealing with an onslaught), the account creation takes somewhere under 30 seconds.

The test you mention would probably not be something Tim would like in any case. He prefers not to put stumbling blocks to people wanting to join up, and I only disagree with him for a few minutes during the time we're fighting bots. Otherwise, he really has the right idea. Welcoming is better.

I really value LT, and don't mind spending time now and then manning the catapults (so to speak). It's a nice comfortable place, and Tim is stuck with me. :-}

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:29 pm

>34 .Monkey.: >58 Lyndatrue: Okay, I had to do the experiment because I didn't want to think my memory was so completely whacked. I just opened a new account, and indeed, the last step to opening an LT account is to type in the author name of a book cover shown. I'd attach a screenshot of that step here in this thread but I don't know how to do that, so I've uploaded it to my profile images.

By the way, as a veteran spam fighter, I've spent many hours in the pursuit of keeping our LT home clean because I, too, value LT immensely. I regret if I conveyed dissatisfaction.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:35 pm

>59 rybie2: No, you didn't convey anything of the sort. Now I'm going to go test this out for myself (because I'm that kind of girl). If this has happened, then it's brand new (at least to me).

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:39 pm

>59 rybie2: I'll be danged. I wonder when that was initiated... I do gently point out that it's not going to do much more than slow down the bots, but it will indeed slow them down. At least I hope it does.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:40 pm

I think I'm going to leave that account around, for now (and not delete it). You never know.

lokakuu 18, 2015, 9:51 pm

>62 Lyndatrue: Same for me and my test account as well. Indeed, you never know when you want to post live stream links or recommend books for fourth graders ;-)

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 19, 2015, 1:29 am

>72 amanda4242: Plus topic (not a bot, needs flagging)

ETA: Never mind, all are gone... for now.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 19, 2015, 1:34 am


ETA: I wonder how well it really slows the new account creation mentioned above, in >59 rybie2:

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 19, 2015, 5:31 am


This one at least has pictures in it.

실시간바카라≧°◡°≦ ...

lokakuu 19, 2015, 8:35 am

>89 henkl: *sigh* It was just a matter of time.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 19, 2015, 12:31 pm

ETA it's spewing up a storm in the 2016 category challenge group.

lokakuu 19, 2015, 10:29 pm

There's one in the 2015 Category Challenge group as well.

lokakuu 20, 2015, 4:37 am

A bit of author spam tucked in among all the bloody bots!

lokakuu 20, 2015, 4:39 am

>109 abbottthomas:

Left a note on profile.

lokakuu 20, 2015, 4:45 am

lokakuu 20, 2015, 5:00 am

lokakuu 20, 2015, 8:10 am

Another bot in 2015 Category Challenge.

lokakuu 20, 2015, 8:14 am

Those korean bots are a really annoying!

lokakuu 20, 2015, 8:41 am

Really annoying is that they are appearing in other places besides Book Talk. Four so far in a challenge group. Where next?

lokakuu 20, 2015, 8:48 am

It's never been limited to Book Talk. It's just more prolific there because it's the default place to post.

lokakuu 20, 2015, 9:59 am

Bot - 2015 category challenge

lokakuu 20, 2015, 10:02 am

>141 hailelib: Where's the link to the bot profile?

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 20, 2015, 10:07 am

It's gone now but there were at least a dozen posts. I'm on a mobile device and some things I only do on my laptop, like copy links! Anyway they have hit that group several times this morning.

lokakuu 20, 2015, 11:11 am

Topic will probably be gone, but still flag the profile.


lokakuu 20, 2015, 9:31 pm

Re: #148 Bamwar is back! I think the last time was on thread 32. The BamWar onslaught resulted in Tim making some major changes in flagging and the time was reduced for account suspension. Looks like a bot but it's not.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 20, 2015, 11:37 pm


It's late, I'm tired; I'm going to bed but I'm sure more bots will be along shortly.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 12:37 am

lokakuu 21, 2015, 1:11 am

>187 amanda4242: just won't die! Needs more flags. :-(

lokakuu 21, 2015, 1:16 am

I still see some posts but users are gone - guessing it'll gradually filter down.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 1:17 am

>197 klarusu: The one in >187 amanda4242: is still there.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 1:21 am

Sorry, folks, I have to go to bed. :-(

lokakuu 21, 2015, 1:22 am

>205 Lyndatrue: Sleep well!

lokakuu 21, 2015, 1:25 am

>205 Lyndatrue: I just got up so it's a shift change ;-)

lokakuu 21, 2015, 8:37 am

>229 2wonderY: Gone already!

lokakuu 21, 2015, 8:52 am

I think anything posted in the main groups is now going to be pretty redundant to bother posting in here. Tim's changes are working wonderfully.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 9:04 am

>232 .Monkey.: They seem to be dropping pretty fast. Mind you, the data person in me still likes to see how many crop up here. They pretty much seem to be getting squashed before they reach here though. It's a drastic difference from pre-Tim's-tweaks.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 21, 2015, 1:33 pm

Not spam yet, but I predict it will be

Whoa. That was close to zero time. Nothing left to flag, folks. Move along, move along.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 2:15 pm

lokakuu 21, 2015, 9:22 pm

A new account comes along every 1-2 minutes now, just as soon as the previous one gets squashed, and posts are being made in different groups besides Book Talk.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 21, 2015, 9:29 pm


Gee it was gone in the same minute!! I love it, the quickness, I mean.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 9:31 pm

I know! I'm squashing so many that I'm not even noting them in this thread because they're gone so fast. It's too bad they keep coming, but at least they are going almost immediately.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 9:33 pm

Tim's latest changes have really and truly helped. Last night was pretty bad, and once the changes went in, it was all over but the shouting.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:06 pm

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:20 pm

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:22 pm

I was in bed winding down with the last of my book when I decided to check LT....and lo, there was spam fighting! Woohoo!

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:22 pm

>249 Taphophile13: Long gone :-)

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:23 pm

>251 lesmel:
Welcome to the fight. I'm humming Kung Foo Fighting.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:26 pm

>251 lesmel: I've been swatting new bam war accounts that are created every couple of minutes for the past hour, and gave up reporting them here when I first started tonight since they disappear almost immediately.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:27 pm

I keep missing the nightly spam wars. And now I have Kung Fu Fighting stuck. in. my. head. Thanks >253 Taphophile13:!!

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:32 pm

>258 Taphophile13: blam! blam! gone!

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:33 pm

>259 lesmel:
Yea! Blast'em.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:35 pm

>260 Taphophile13: ya know, it's just not the same to flag them to Call Me Maybe. LOL. Must create a spam fighting playlist.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:42 pm

lokakuu 21, 2015, 10:51 pm

lokakuu 21, 2015, 11:07 pm

Something for the spam fighting playlist

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 21, 2015, 11:32 pm

>272 amanda4242: I was thinking this (from Armada by Ernest Cline):

ETC: ok. ok. I couldn't stand that I'd misspelled his name.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 11:12 pm

lokakuu 21, 2015, 11:12 pm

lokakuu 21, 2015, 11:15 pm

>272 amanda4242: I was talking to my mom the other day and she said something like "it wasn't expected" and i nearly replied with "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!!" She wouldn't have been amused...just confused.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 11:18 pm

Okay, now you are all just hurting my feelings. I continued the topic, and what do I get? Everyone keeps having fun, here, without me.


Man, kids today.

lokakuu 21, 2015, 11:26 pm

>276 lesmel: I have that sketch for call waiting on my phone. It does confuse many people.

>277 Lyndatrue: We're sorry...back to work now.
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