Spam reporting thread #41

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Spam reporting thread #41

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Muokkaaja: marraskuu 11, 2015, 9:53 am


Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

Muokkaaja: elokuu 31, 2015, 9:31 am

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elokuu 31, 2015, 4:32 pm

spam profile, though it does seem like a nice place

elokuu 31, 2015, 9:41 pm

Spam message already gone, profile just needs flagging.

syyskuu 1, 2015, 8:32 pm

Feel free to hit the profile after flagging the reviews. Those are real books, though.

syyskuu 2, 2015, 7:21 am

>12 2wonderY: That's... amazing. I don't think I've seen such a wall of links.

syyskuu 2, 2015, 7:33 am

>13 rybie2: And sneaky too, putting it in a group besides Book Talk.

syyskuu 2, 2015, 1:38 pm

Topic will probably disappear by the time I post this, but profile will need further flagging.

syyskuu 3, 2015, 12:30 am

Enthusiastic author (free account, all three books in her library are hers, and I leave it to someone else to post a kind comment on her profile. (Provided ONLY for someone else to make a comment. Please don't flag it.)

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 3, 2015, 8:02 am

That one had two flags on it, that are now gone, so 'someone' voted one down.

syyskuu 3, 2015, 8:26 am

syyskuu 4, 2015, 1:02 pm

syyskuu 4, 2015, 1:03 pm

syyskuu 4, 2015, 1:06 pm

>28 Lyndatrue:

No need to trust, the links are there now.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 5, 2015, 10:27 am

syyskuu 5, 2015, 10:35 am

>43 Lyndatrue:

Profile picture is also spam (although I guess that goes away when the account's suspended)

It should. In any case, we can't flag profile pics. I can certainly see the logic of that, though in cases like this, it's too bad!

syyskuu 5, 2015, 10:37 am

At least those who missed the spam topic can see a reason to finish off the spammer.

Today seems really heavy on the spam.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 5, 2015, 4:47 pm

Edit: profile pic has wall of advertising, links, and other crap

syyskuu 5, 2015, 5:11 pm

I think this one maybe comes under teachable moments, so I have not flagged the profile. I would on a repeat, though. This is a commercial tour company.

syyskuu 8, 2015, 2:45 am

syyskuu 8, 2015, 5:19 am

syyskuu 8, 2015, 4:14 pm

Author promotion:

(Comment left on his profile.)

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 10, 2015, 1:48 pm

syyskuu 10, 2015, 3:35 pm

syyskuu 10, 2015, 6:21 pm

>82 henkl:

1 minute, and topic and profile are both gone. Is that a record?

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 11, 2015, 2:35 am

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syyskuu 11, 2015, 3:40 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

syyskuu 11, 2015, 3:42 pm
Has only spam works entered, all of which have been flagged as such, but member needs further flagging.

syyskuu 12, 2015, 6:28 am

Overzealous author. Profile needs a note.

syyskuu 12, 2015, 7:11 pm for spam links in profile picture

syyskuu 13, 2015, 1:21 pm for spam links in profile picture.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 14, 2015, 11:11 am

Which staff member normally deals with spam stuff? This is a message for that person:

The "edit quick links" page needs to be cleared out of everything in the DELETE ME section, under Online Booksellers.
These are quick links that have been added that were either duplicates, or spam, or links pointing to author pages or specific books, or other things that were not proper quick links. (When I spot those, I clear out any spammy or promotional URLs and mark them for deletion.) Jeremy used to clean this stuff out when he worked at LT, I believe, but I don't think it's had a clean in a while.

(edited to add link to relevant page)

syyskuu 16, 2015, 12:23 am

Topic will probably vanish, but profile still needs flagging

syyskuu 16, 2015, 9:57 am for spam links in profile picture.

syyskuu 17, 2015, 1:35 am

>136 Mr.Durick: still needs plenty of flagging on both the group, and the profile.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 17, 2015, 1:37 am

>138 Lyndatrue: They're gone. Both 136 and 137.

syyskuu 17, 2015, 7:50 am

syyskuu 17, 2015, 3:06 pm

Profile still needs flagging. All the "books" (ads) are gone.

syyskuu 18, 2015, 2:17 pm

Ha ha! Three flags before it's even edited to spam links.

we're good.

syyskuu 18, 2015, 2:21 pm

>153 2wonderY:

Has anyone official ever okayed the flagging of spam probes before the links go in? It's obvious that they are going to be spam, but given the dire warnings against "misuse" of spam flagging I've never dared to be pre-emptive in my flagging, since someone will undoubtedly protest that we don't know this one is going to turn into spam just because the last 499 did, this one might just be a poor clueless newbie, and then we're the horrible TOS-violating bad guys.

syyskuu 18, 2015, 2:32 pm

>154 lorax: Well, and that was a reason for me recording the topic and profile links here, so that if there is a complaint, we know what it's referring to. That one was pretty obvious. If I'm not sure, I'll star it and return in another few seconds.

syyskuu 19, 2015, 12:14 pm

Anyone have any insight into this case? I'm not savvy enough on the process to have spotted where / when it was flagged. It appears to have been mistaken:

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 19, 2015, 2:29 pm

> 159

No idea. I searched for any discussions of it in this group, but couldn't find anything. It's possible that a spammer might also have added it and someone flagged the work because of that. It shows only one member, though if the flagger were "offed" that might have changed the number. But that's just a guess.

syyskuu 19, 2015, 7:35 pm

>161 lilithcat: appreciate the look, lilithcat. It may have been a mistake in the manual add process, not sure how easy that could happen. I think it worked itself out, which suggests it was an accident of the add process.

syyskuu 20, 2015, 7:13 am

Overzealous author. I'm not good at notes on profiles so can someone drop this one a line, please?

syyskuu 20, 2015, 8:53 am

syyskuu 20, 2015, 9:12 am

syyskuu 20, 2015, 9:13 am

syyskuu 20, 2015, 9:27 am

Spamming author is gone.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 21, 2015, 2:42 pm

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 23, 2015, 1:56 am

Do these peple use Google translate for their texts? And what language do they start from?

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 23, 2015, 5:49 am

I think maybe the poster and several messages are gone.

syyskuu 23, 2015, 1:18 pm

It's not exactly spam, but it's surely close. Someone much kinder and more diplomatic than I needs to post a reminder to jak.susanity (please don't flag the profile, though) over this topic:

Not sure what an "ARC" is, but I'm very sure I'm about to flag the topic.

Would we call this an "Enthusiastic Reviewer"?

syyskuu 23, 2015, 1:22 pm

>189 Lyndatrue:

An ARC is an "Advance Reading Copy", a pre-release copy of a book sent to reviewers. They're one of the forms frequently used for Early Reviewers; usually they look like a trade paperback with extra promotional information on the cover, and frequently images and other such details are absent.

I'd point the poster at Hobnob With Authors and Member Giveaways.

syyskuu 23, 2015, 1:25 pm

An ARC is an "advance review copy"-- a pre-publication edition of a book that gets sent out to reviewers. It often hasn't been through its final proofreads yet, but is sent out anyway because most of the big review journals want to read books from 4-6 months before their release date in order to be able to have reviews in print to coincide with a book's release.

Maybe suggest she post in the Hobnob group?

syyskuu 23, 2015, 1:43 pm

>189 Lyndatrue:
kristilabrie has already noticed and pointed her in the right direction.

syyskuu 23, 2015, 1:47 pm

>192 Taphophile13: Yeah, I saw that she had. I'm thinking about copyrights on "Enthusiastic Reviewer" though. Advance Review Copy Who knew?

I'll go un-flag it.

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 24, 2015, 2:39 pm

syyskuu 25, 2015, 1:49 pm

Enthusiastic author

Here's the profile (for someone to leave a comment on, NOT to flag, please):

syyskuu 27, 2015, 1:48 pm

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 27, 2015, 5:55 pm

Enthusiastic author
Leaving message on profile

ETA: Profile for future reference

Muokkaaja: syyskuu 29, 2015, 5:26 am

Enthusiastic author
(reference only:

ETA Author responded to my message with the links to terms and Author pages that he had probably overdone his advertising. Then wanted to friend me!

syyskuu 28, 2015, 6:34 pm

syyskuu 29, 2015, 5:28 am

see >209 MarthaJeanne: for more on an enthusiastic author. I don't understand this mentality.

syyskuu 29, 2015, 1:51 pm

syyskuu 29, 2015, 3:34 pm

Spam profile

I've checked out the homepage.

syyskuu 30, 2015, 9:20 am

syyskuu 30, 2015, 9:23 am

"interferes with a thriving fit of anxiety with the immense electronic step of the most pack satisfying sound in cutting edge music: a drop. On occasion like that, "

lots of links

syyskuu 30, 2015, 9:25 am

>223 Taphophile13: Gone already

syyskuu 30, 2015, 10:26 am

From Jaipur today, we have a Spam profile

lokakuu 1, 2015, 5:55 am

lokakuu 1, 2015, 6:10 am

Quite clearly. They've made like 50 spam posts in book talk. Not going to bother to link them all, far too many.

lokakuu 1, 2015, 6:39 am

I think the posts are gone now. They disappeared faster than I could flag them. :-) The profile was still there.

Is it really necessary to let new members make so many new posts in a short time? If that could be blocked, it would only bother spammers, I think. No normal person would do that, woud they?

lokakuu 1, 2015, 6:46 am

I know such things have been suggested before, clearly not much has come of it.

lokakuu 1, 2015, 8:45 am

>232 CDVicarage: So, what is happening with this account? Are the works and reviews spam?

lokakuu 1, 2015, 9:12 am

I would imagine they are, given that the person joined and proceeded to make literally at least 50 gibberish spam posts in Book Talk. But I will leave that for someone else to officially determine.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 1, 2015, 9:35 am

lokakuu 1, 2015, 9:38 am

>236 2wonderY: >237 .Monkey.:
I google translated his/her boook reviews and flagged them all. I also flagged the account.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 1, 2015, 9:44 am

I'm wondering how that account is surviving.

The one in >239 MarthaJeanne: is gone already.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:05 am

Would flagging the profile also rid us of the 58 reviews? Or do they each need to be flagged first?

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This kind of entry should be spot-able, eh?

lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:18 am

It'd probably toss the reviews when the acct goes (it should be flagged regardless, they're a spam acct), but not the actual books, which are presumably spam as well?

lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:23 am

Well, most appear to be spam works, but there is one real work that seems to have been affected and twisted:

776 members, including a Legacy Library, but no title, no cover.
The remaining reviews don't seem to harmonize with each other, and neither do the tags.

lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:25 am

Ah I think that might be the work that was recently in bugs due to its...well, yeah, you can see. XD

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:30 am

Please flag that profile NOW

(I'm just waking up. Just as the other spam profile, there were multiple topics in book talk being posted.)

lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:29 am

lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:32 am

Whew! There was a certain eerie beauty to the repeated symbols. I kept getting distracted by the patterns.

lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:35 am

The other profile is still around, though.

(I'm drinking my first cup of coffee, 2wonderY, and nothing much distracts me until it takes effect.)

lokakuu 1, 2015, 10:53 am

>250 Lyndatrue: and 2wonderY
The profile is still there. All the reviews are suppressed. If the account is finally zapped won't the spam works remain unless they are flagged and voted on? I'd be happy to flag them (less the one legitimate buggy one) if that's the case.

lokakuu 1, 2015, 11:02 am

>251 MsMaryAnn: I'd say that flagging would be the right thing to do. I don't know the answer (about whether the works remain), but suspect that they will. I wonder if the second spammer was the same person as the first, or at least the same group?

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 1, 2015, 11:17 am

>252 Lyndatrue: Off to flag the works. Hopefully, they will be voted on quickly.

ETA: No need to flag works. They've already been suppressed as spam.

lokakuu 1, 2015, 11:20 am

I'll bet that staff is keeping the profile up in order to study the new spam techniques presented.

lokakuu 1, 2015, 11:12 pm

I flagged this even though google translate refused to try to translate it. It looks like spam, and someone else had already flagged it.

I may be wrong.


lokakuu 1, 2015, 11:14 pm

And there are more, but people are flagging them.


lokakuu 2, 2015, 12:52 am

and many related posts tonight in BookTalk.
Have flagged posts and members but theyre coming fast...

lokakuu 2, 2015, 12:59 am

Re 257

They might come back around the same time tomorrow, be aware, people!

lokakuu 2, 2015, 1:01 am

But at least for now they are gone, and I won't have to be up at this ungodly hour tomorrow.

lokakuu 2, 2015, 1:10 am

Some real bastards tonight. If this keeps up, I'll have to add some new things to catch them.

lokakuu 2, 2015, 2:19 am

There is nothing here that I can identify as commercial, but I flagged it anyway:

lokakuu 2, 2015, 2:36 am

Got to have account busted for sure...

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:02 am

I don't know what this is about to be honest but there are 17 identical threads in book talk which is very spammy.

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:03 am

Postings in this new group

And in Book Talk

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:42 am

Tim, can you please make some sort of anti-spam thing that prevents new users from making more than, say, 5 posts in a short period??

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:45 am

Yeah, this one's really bad...

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:51 am

Anyone else getting REALLY SICK of flagging?? UGH too many. >___<

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:54 am

>270 .Monkey.: The last few have all been the same pattern too. Those nonsense characters...

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:54 am

>270 .Monkey.: I'm trying to look on the bright side of it. I'm pretty sure I've reached gold star status on talk spam-fighting by now...

lokakuu 2, 2015, 8:57 am

Haha. And yes the past couple days have been loaded with this gibberish garbage, really irritating, there's not even spam links, what is the point even?! blech.

lokakuu 2, 2015, 11:34 am

lokakuu 2, 2015, 9:12 pm

Lots of spam appearing in the off topic group. Flags and staff intervention is probably needed again.

lokakuu 2, 2015, 9:16 pm

Yay! They are gone!

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 2, 2015, 11:37 pm

Oh god, I hope someone besides me is out there.

Huge spam on Book Talk (back in a minute with links)

Here's the (so far) single profile for all of it.

ETA: (I'd guess that someone on Staff noticed, and thank you. There just HAS to be something better than the way we're doing it now.)

lokakuu 2, 2015, 11:38 pm

>279 Lyndatrue:
I saw a bunch of threads but when I clicked on the first one to flag it — it was already gone! Maybe Tim has added some kind of super bug exterminator program.

lokakuu 2, 2015, 11:40 pm

>280 Taphophile13: I've been flagging them for five minutes. I made the frantic post here about five minutes ago (and then edited it, twice). I think it was manual intervention, but would be overjoyed to hear it was automated.

lokakuu 2, 2015, 11:47 pm

>281 Lyndatrue: I don't know about programming but maybe it's possible that all these posts are coming from a single IP address and that the system is set up to recognize an address that has already been suspended. There have been a lot of Asian casino ads today. Sort of like an immune response?

lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:19 am

>282 Taphophile13: Nice idea, but the two things happened simultaneously (the spam links all dying, and account suspension). Most of the posts had been flagged only by me, or at most one other person, and then suddenly they were gone (and I blew a kiss towards the East Coast). I actually *do* know a lot about programming. Without knowing about the particular spam engine behind this, though, I think that it's all conjecture.

I'd suggest that a wise thing to do is to immediately suspend an account after {mumble} posts within the time period {mumble}, but that's still just going to slow them down. I don't know it *can* be automated, truthfully.

Now I'm just making myself sad.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:23 am

>284 Lyndatrue: It's internet baccarat - online gambling. And they have all been Korean.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:24 am

It's going to be a long, long night for someone...

There's still more of the crap from >284 Lyndatrue:

lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:25 am

>285 Lyndatrue: "Normal spam" - I like that phrase.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:28 am
and others in the Book Talk group

ETA and they're gone!

lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:28 am

Something just knocked out a whole bunch of them in the minute or so it took me to look at this thread.


lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:28 am

>289 Taphophile13: All fixed, for now. :-(

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 3, 2015, 12:34 am

I'd been about to continue this to a new topic, but no time

I'm sure there will be more. There's never just one.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 1:05 am

Is this some sort of automated spam or spam-bot thing? It's being uploaded so quickly.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 1:15 am

>301 Taphophile13: Yes most likely a bot.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 1:47 am

>301 Taphophile13: I'd say it was a bot, but the username creation is interesting (choice of names, I mean). There's the issue of creating a name that hasn't already been used, and yet looks vaguely user-like. The posts themselves seem to make almost no effort at being anything but what they are.

I just wish they'd put some kind of auth in for user creation until I get some sleep, because I'm about to head off for just that.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 2:56 am

And the spam bot continues 25+ topic in Book Talk. Will flagging the profile end it?

lokakuu 3, 2015, 3:02 am

That one's gone. It's almost a relief to see a normal spammer.

Muokkaaja: lokakuu 3, 2015, 3:05 am

But another just appeared.


lokakuu 3, 2015, 4:07 am

Midway through flagging a bunch of them, they went away.


lokakuu 3, 2015, 4:08 am

Yes, they're all gone now.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 4:53 am

*flags a dozen quickly made posts by new spam user* So Tim, about that script to block N posts in N time... >__<

lokakuu 3, 2015, 5:03 am

>314 .Monkey.:

A dozen? 27 when I looked.

lokakuu 3, 2015, 5:38 am

Yep, another dozen+ followed. :|

lokakuu 3, 2015, 9:39 am

I'm going to do a continuation of this thread. It will take a few minutes (because I've never done it before, and I'm being careful).
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