East Euro Symbolists
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1tros
Just added Wladyslaw Podkowiński - Frenzy 1894 to my pic gallery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenzy_of_Exultations
Also added some more Jacek Malczewski. Any more east euro symbolists
of interest?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenzy_of_Exultations
Also added some more Jacek Malczewski. Any more east euro symbolists
of interest?
2kswolff
Stefan Grabinski is another great one. The so-called "Polish Poe":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Grabi%C5%84ski
The Dark Domain is a collection of his short stories published by Daedalus Fiction.
There is also a great symbolist tradition in Russia which is examined in a Taschen art book focusing on the Symbolist Movement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Grabi%C5%84ski
The Dark Domain is a collection of his short stories published by Daedalus Fiction.
There is also a great symbolist tradition in Russia which is examined in a Taschen art book focusing on the Symbolist Movement.
3tros
Grabinski has been lurking in my tbr pile for a while.
The Taschen sounds familiar. I'll have to check.
Podkowiński and Malczewski were Poles. Franz Kupka, a Czech, was a symbolist early.
The Taschen sounds familiar. I'll have to check.
Podkowiński and Malczewski were Poles. Franz Kupka, a Czech, was a symbolist early.
4kswolff
Depending on one's interpretation, Kafka could easily fit this category, since he was Czech, was Jewish, and wrote in German. His mystical imagination offers a fascinating perspective on dying empires and labyrinthine bureuacracies. Like Wallace Stevens, he worked in the insurance industry, a job that always has one foot in the coffin.
5tros
I was thinking of painters because western art history seems especially ignorant of east europe. Writers seem to get more attention. The 3 painters I mentioned are almost unknown in the west.
6Makifat
The Symbolists by Michael Gibson and published (1988 English translation) by Abrams has chapters on Central and Eastern Europe. This volume also has some nice tipped-in plates.
And...of course the touchstone is f#^ed
And...of course the touchstone is f#^ed
8Makifat
7
I looked up the edition with the Redon cover on Amazon. To tell the truth, I'm not even sure it's the same book; either it's different or it's been extensively revised. The TOC is certainly different.
I looked up the edition with the Redon cover on Amazon. To tell the truth, I'm not even sure it's the same book; either it's different or it's been extensively revised. The TOC is certainly different.
9kswolff
I am pretty sure it's the same book. Highly recommended. It is a nice overview of a varied movement. Also of interest is Art Nouveau by Paul Greenhalgh. It is an exhibition guide to the V & A exhibit. It is instrumental in how Symbolism ties into the concurrent movements of Art Nouveau, Arts and Crafts, the Aesthetic movement (Pater, etc.), along with touching upon various locales and materials.
10Makifat
Contents of the 1988 Abrams edition are as follows:
Introduction: Between Progress and Decadence
Chapter One - France and the Rise of Symbolism
Chapter Two - England: Affinities in a Cold Climate
Chapter Three - Central Europe: A Shipwreck in Slow Motion
Chapter Four - Belgium: Sublimity and Solitude
Chapter Five - Easter Europe: Symbolism in a Different Context
Chapter Six - Scandanavia and the United States: the Protestant Fringe
Chapter Seven - Italy and Spain: The Catholic Fringe
Biographical Notes
Selected Bibliography
Index of Artists and Works
Photograph Credits
Introduction: Between Progress and Decadence
Chapter One - France and the Rise of Symbolism
Chapter Two - England: Affinities in a Cold Climate
Chapter Three - Central Europe: A Shipwreck in Slow Motion
Chapter Four - Belgium: Sublimity and Solitude
Chapter Five - Easter Europe: Symbolism in a Different Context
Chapter Six - Scandanavia and the United States: the Protestant Fringe
Chapter Seven - Italy and Spain: The Catholic Fringe
Biographical Notes
Selected Bibliography
Index of Artists and Works
Photograph Credits
11kswolff
I'm reading Death on the Installment Plan by Ferdinand Celine Just read the part where young Ferdinand takes a job with a Symbolist engraver. Ferdinand's tirade against "Symbolist junk" is hilarious. It's almost a visceral reaction to the movement.
12tros
Thanks Maki. I'll check it out.
Celine was a crazy old man, no doubt. Didn't know art from ...
Celine was a crazy old man, no doubt. Didn't know art from ...
13kswolff
... a hole in the ground. I'll post some excerpts. Pretty hilarious, especially since the novel is full of hallucinatory visions and a high fantasy epic sequence. Celine is more Modernist than Symbolist, but like his Fascist contemporary Ezra Pound, he straddles both movements, since Pound wrote efulgent Swinburne-ish poetry prior to his Imagist stage and economic prattling.
14Randy_Hierodule
Fascist confrere, you mean? ;)
15tros
Finally got around to reading The Dark Domain and In Sarah's House. SG's frankly sexual contents are unusual for 1920, more like 2020! "Fumes" is an especially wild story. Kind of like a folk tale on acid!
Anything in The Motion Demon that's not in the other two?
Anything in The Motion Demon that's not in the other two?
16Randy_Hierodule
I took my daughter to see "The Avengers" over the weekend. There is a Russian interrogation scene involving agents named "Sologub" and "Lermontov". My attempt to explain the references got me politely hushed.
17Hexameron
If you had name dropped Sologub's appellation as "The Bard of Death", maybe that would've gotten some "Cool" or "Bad ass" remarks.
18Nicole_VanK
On the original question about Eastern European symbolist painters: Check out
Victor Borissov-Moussatov : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Borissov-Moussatov (sorry, the link is in French, but it gives access to some pictures of his work).
Mikhail Vrubel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Vrubel
Victor Borissov-Moussatov : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Borissov-Moussatov (sorry, the link is in French, but it gives access to some pictures of his work).
Mikhail Vrubel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Vrubel
19Randy_Hierodule
We have had Vrubel up here before - his demon series.
20Nicole_VanK
Right okay. I'll check some more, but tros is right - eastern European symbolist artists are somewhat neglected in art history.
21Randy_Hierodule
It seems so. I am looking forward to receiving the Czech art book on of our contributors posted on a week or so back.
22LolaWalser
How about some Croatian fin-de-siècle?

23LolaWalser
Tentacle sex: always popular everywhere.
24Randy_Hierodule
This looks an awful lot like Franz von Stuck's Sensuality (or Sin?). Who is the artist?
25LolaWalser
I don't know! But I'm pretty sure that's great-grandmama. With great-grandpapa, of course.
It's from this page: ZAGREB - MÜNCHEN: Hrvatsko slikarstvo i Akademija likovnih umjetnosti u Münchenu
It's from this page: ZAGREB - MÜNCHEN: Hrvatsko slikarstvo i Akademija likovnih umjetnosti u Münchenu
27LolaWalser
A motley crew of Croatian fin-de-siecle artists; impressionists, decadents, symbolists, expressionists (I suggest googling on names for best results):
Izidor Kršnjavi, Ferdinand Quiquerez, Josip Bauer, Nikola Mašić, Anton Aron, Dragan Melkus, Gustav Poša, Hugo Lukšić, Marko Murat, Mato Celestin Medović, Menci Clement Crnčić, Marko Rašica, Bela Čikoš Sesija , Oton Iveković, Ivan Tišov, Robert Auer, Oskar Herman, Josip Račić, Emanuel Vidović, Mirko Rački, Vladimir Becić, Miroslav Kraljević, Ljubo Babić, Vilko Gecan…
Some random links randomly:
Emanuel Vidović (1870–1953)
Angelus (1906)
Vlaho Bukovac (1855-1922)
Fantazija
(his kids were models)
Mirko Rački (1879-1982)
Paolo i Francesca
Bela Čikoš Sesija (1864-1931)
Valpurgina noć (Walpurgisnacht)
Saloma (1919) (click on centre thumbnail to see whole picture)
Mato Celestin Medović (1857-1920)
Landscapes
More Sesija, Medovic, Robert Auer here (a blog devoted to Croatian visual arts, apparently)
Menci Klement Crnčić (1865-1930)
Dvoje u prirodi
Tomislav Krizman (1882-1955)
Oops, must be off now.
Izidor Kršnjavi, Ferdinand Quiquerez, Josip Bauer, Nikola Mašić, Anton Aron, Dragan Melkus, Gustav Poša, Hugo Lukšić, Marko Murat, Mato Celestin Medović, Menci Clement Crnčić, Marko Rašica, Bela Čikoš Sesija , Oton Iveković, Ivan Tišov, Robert Auer, Oskar Herman, Josip Račić, Emanuel Vidović, Mirko Rački, Vladimir Becić, Miroslav Kraljević, Ljubo Babić, Vilko Gecan…
Some random links randomly:
Emanuel Vidović (1870–1953)
Angelus (1906)
Vlaho Bukovac (1855-1922)
Fantazija
(his kids were models)
Mirko Rački (1879-1982)
Paolo i Francesca
Bela Čikoš Sesija (1864-1931)
Valpurgina noć (Walpurgisnacht)
Saloma (1919) (click on centre thumbnail to see whole picture)
Mato Celestin Medović (1857-1920)
Landscapes
More Sesija, Medovic, Robert Auer here (a blog devoted to Croatian visual arts, apparently)
Menci Klement Crnčić (1865-1930)
Dvoje u prirodi
Tomislav Krizman (1882-1955)
Oops, must be off now.
29LolaWalser
More Mirko Rački, "City of Dis", 1906


30Randy_Hierodule
Thanks you, Lola - great stuff.
31LolaWalser
More Mato Celestin Medović, "Bacchanalia", 1893

(Interesting subject choice for a priest)

(Interesting subject choice for a priest)
32LolaWalser
#30
De nada--I love dropping work for the truly important stuff.
De nada--I love dropping work for the truly important stuff.
34MMcM
> 24,26
The one in #22 from the MUO is also by von Stuck.
The one in #26 was part of a forced sale under the Nazis and restituted from Holywood lawyer Somer to the heirs (I think) and sold at Christie's for 5x the estimate.
There are engravings, too, for those on a budget.
The one in #22 from the MUO is also by von Stuck.
The one in #26 was part of a forced sale under the Nazis and restituted from Holywood lawyer Somer to the heirs (I think) and sold at Christie's for 5x the estimate.
There are engravings, too, for those on a budget.
35LolaWalser
#34
Thanks. Can you make out the writing in the upper right hand corner (in #22)?
Thanks. Can you make out the writing in the upper right hand corner (in #22)?
36MMcM
I can't, but isn't g.d.k. gornjem desnom kutu (or something like that)? So the museum says, "FRANZ STUCK," which is about the right number of blobs.
37LolaWalser
Could be... I thought they might be numbers.
I remembered a Hungarian symbolist (or expressionist or impressionist--he didn't belong to any determined school, wasn't even academically educated), Tivadar Csontváry. Zoltán Huszárik had made a movie about him (Csontváry), which is how I learned of him. By all appearances a most unusual figure. I remember the movie as splashing in golden sunlight. Csontváry travelled lots in the South, especially the Mediterranean, and most of his pictures are filled with light and colour.
This is a rare representation of the sinister in his work, the devil as an old fisherman:

I remembered a Hungarian symbolist (or expressionist or impressionist--he didn't belong to any determined school, wasn't even academically educated), Tivadar Csontváry. Zoltán Huszárik had made a movie about him (Csontváry), which is how I learned of him. By all appearances a most unusual figure. I remember the movie as splashing in golden sunlight. Csontváry travelled lots in the South, especially the Mediterranean, and most of his pictures are filled with light and colour.
This is a rare representation of the sinister in his work, the devil as an old fisherman:

38LolaWalser
A scene from Huszárik's movie (1980):

and Csontváry's painting of the same location (1903):

The Old Bridge in Mostar.

and Csontváry's painting of the same location (1903):

The Old Bridge in Mostar.
40LolaWalser
Stari Most, yes.
42tros
21
Decadence: In Morbid Colours is excellent. A lot of artists unknown to me. Beautifully done.
Decadence: In Morbid Colours is excellent. A lot of artists unknown to me. Beautifully done.
43Nicole_VanK
Will definitely get myself a copy.
44Randy_Hierodule
The Hieroglyphic Press's On the Hill of Roses is now available.
and The Stefan Grabinski website: http://www.stefangrabinski.org/
and The Stefan Grabinski website: http://www.stefangrabinski.org/
45kswolff
While not Symbolist/Decadent per se, the forthcoming edition of Zagreb Noir looks promising. The moral rot of genocide and national collapse is still fresh in the minds of people living in the now separated republics of the former Yugoslavia.
46Randy_Hierodule
Russian Tales of Demonic Possession (translated by Marcia A Morris) contains two medieval tales of possession and their later appearance in 2 stories by Aleksei Remizov.
47Randy_Hierodule
Photographs and caricatures of the Russian authors associated with the "Silver Age": http://stpetersburg.berkeley.edu/ulla/ulla2_1.html
Main site, "Mapping Petersburg": http://stpetersburg.berkeley.edu/index-2.html
Main site, "Mapping Petersburg": http://stpetersburg.berkeley.edu/index-2.html
48Randy_Hierodule
This is an interview with a scholar who has done research on Buddhist and occult interests in early Bolshevik Russia. You may need to create an account to read it.
https://www.academia.edu/19832589/Buddhists_Occultists_and_Secret_Societies_in_E...
https://www.academia.edu/19832589/Buddhists_Occultists_and_Secret_Societies_in_E...
49Randy_Hierodule
Aleksei Remizov: I had thought I had written something about him somewhere in this group some while back, so I won't go into it much here, but I will mention (in the probable event I wrote nothing) that Remizov was an interesting person, a writer and graphic artist, associated with the Russian Silver Age set. A few of his novels and collections of novellas can still be had at reasonable cost (his novel The Pond, translated by Stephen Whitmore Jones, is available for free download on the internet: http://self.gutenberg.org/eBooks/WPLBN0003437396-The-Pond-by-Remizov-Aleksei.asp..., as can several anthologies containing his short stories and plays (Skaz, Russian Tales of Demonic Possession, Russian Symbolist Theatre, Worlds Apart: An Anthology of Russian Science Fiction and Fantasy). There are also journals (Wormwood) and various academic texts devoted to his written and graphic work.
It is particularly encouraging that at long last a new translation is coming later this year, Sisters of the Cross on Columbia University Press's Russian Library series. I hope it won't be 90 years more before we can hear from this strange man again.
It is particularly encouraging that at long last a new translation is coming later this year, Sisters of the Cross on Columbia University Press's Russian Library series. I hope it won't be 90 years more before we can hear from this strange man again.
50LolaWalser
One of Zamyatin's most famous essays and some of the earliest if not the first critical work he published was inspired by the attacks on Remizov (in particular) and other Scythians. I don't remember the title ("Scythians", maybe?) but IIRC, it's in a collection called A Soviet heretic--very much recommended, his was an especially rare and fascinating point of view of the writers and the period. (Technical formation but a great literary imagination, revolutionary but after October very quickly pitted against the bolsheviks, atheist but with fondest ties to the mystics in his circle--unboxable.)
52LolaWalser
Oh yes, that must be it, thanks! What most excellent google-fu.
53kswolff
Not really sure if this applies, but For Two Thousand Years by Mihail Sebastian is a fascinating look at Romania between the wars. Written as a journal, the narrator comes into contact with aesthetes, libertines, early Zionists, an eccentric professor, and proto-Nazi thugs. The atmosphere is of foreboding and despair.
55Randy_Hierodule
There appears to be a revival of interest in Aleksei Remizov: https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-little-devil-and-other-stories/9780231183819. CUP recently translated and published the novel, Sisters of the Cross.
56kswolff
This might seem like a tangential leap, but it is worth considering the Kabbalistic tales of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov, himself part of a larger tradition of Hasidic storytelling. Granted, Rabbi Nachman lived from 1772 to 1810, but I'd place him as an "outlier symbolist" akin to William Blake in creating a symbol-laden cosmology.
57Randy_Hierodule
The saga of Aleksei Remizov in English translation (this came up as I was looking for where I had seen, or dreamed I'd seen, reference to a forthcoming translation):
https://books.openedition.org/obp/1582
https://books.openedition.org/obp/1582
59Randy_Hierodule
On Estonian decadent art (and an interesting magazine):
https://www.inner-magazines.com/culture/creative-non-adaptiveness/
https://www.inner-magazines.com/culture/creative-non-adaptiveness/
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