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I and Thou Tekijä: Martin Buber
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I and Thou (alkuperäinen julkaisuvuosi 1923; vuoden 1958 painos)

Tekijä: Martin Buber

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"Today considered a landmark of twentieth-century intellectual history, I and Thou is also one of the most important books of Western theology. In it, Martin Buber, heavily influenced by the writings of Frederich Nietzsche, united the proto-Existentialists currents of modern German thought with the Judeo-Christian tradition, powerfully updating faith for modern times. Since its first appearance in German in 1923, this slender volume has become one of the epoch-making works of our time. Not only does it present the best thinking of one of the greatest Jewish minds in centuries, but has helped to mold approaches to reconciling God with the workings of the modern world and the consciousness of its inhabitants. This work is the centerpiece of Buber's groundbreaking philosophy. It lays out a view of the world in which human beings can enter into relationships using their innermost and whole being to form true partnerships. These deep forms of rapport contrast with those that spring from the Industrial Revolution, namely the common, but basically unethical, treatment of others as objects for our use and the incorrect view of the universe as merely the object of our senses, experiences. Buber goes on to demonstrate how these interhuman meetings are a reflection of the human meeting with God. For Buber, the essence of biblical religion consists in the fact that -- regardless of the infinite abyss between them -- a dialogue between man and God is possible. Ecumenical in its appeal, I and Thou nevertheless reflects the profound Talmudic tradition from which it has emerged. For Judaism, Buber's writings have been of revolutionary importance. No other writer has so shaken Judaism from parochialism and applied it so relevantly to the problems and concerns of contemporary men. On the other hand, the fundamentalist Protestant movement in this country has appropriated Buber's "I and Thou encounter" as the implicit basis of its doctrine of immediate faith-based salvation. In this light, Martin Buber has been viewed as the Jewish counterpart to Paul Tillich."--Publisher description.… (lisätietoja)
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人渴求占有上帝:人渴求在时空中持久恒常地占有上帝。他不满足于意义之不可言喻的确定,而期望这确定不移能衍化成某种可不断攫取与把握的东西,一种在时空间牢不可破的恒定,由此确保他之人生在每一时辰,每一地点均安然无虞。

当人沉湎于他所经验所利用的物之时,他其实生活在过去里。在他的时间中没有现时。除了对象,他一无所有,而对象滞留于已逝时光。
  Maristot | Oct 19, 2023 |
I and Thou is a key text in ethical, religious, and intellectual philosophy from the 20th century. It exhibits elements of each of those even though it isn't strictly a work of philosophy, religion, poetry, or mysticism. Its introspective, aphoristic tone could even be described as "theopoetic." The book also covers a wide range of topics, even though it is only a little over 200 pages long, such as modernity, human psychology, perception and consciousness, evil, ethics, education, spirituality, religious tradition, the natural world, biblical hermeneutics, the relationship between personal and communal fulfillment, the relationship between the divine and the human, and so forth.

The book is not weighed down with obscure allusions and convoluted reasoning, but rather it is profoundly affected by and engages in an implicit dialogue with Kant, Hegel, Marx, Feuerbach, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, and Heidegger, not to mention the mystic traditions of Hasidism. Buber's writings are still regarded as a turning point in existentialist philosophy.

I and Thou is a deceptively straightforward idea, which is that all existence is encounter, despite its weighty heritage. Additionally, it makes for a fascinating, stimulating, and enjoyable read. ( )
  jwhenderson | Sep 10, 2023 |
Reading philosophy stretches me. This slim volume stayed on my reading table for months as I read three or four pages at a time and then paused to think or reread.

Slow going, but rewarding and helpful for a paper I wrote in Art Theory and Criticism class winter quarter. ( )
  rebwaring | Aug 14, 2023 |
This was the one sticking point for me:

"Feelings accompany the metaphysical and metapsychical fact of love, but they do not constitute it; and the feelings that accompany it can be very different." (66)

I've always thought that Kant's discussion of the metaphysical is besides the point. Sure, there are forces in the universe that lie outside of human understanding. That does not mean that our "feeling" of these forces, of which love may be one, is not primary.

I am writing this as a layman of philosophy. I've only read bits of "A Critique of Pure Reason" and am piecing together the knowledge I have of the material vs. the metaphysical.

For Buber, verbs are key. One does not "experience" or "use" the other, the You. One "encounters" or "stands against" this being.

This is a lovely and dense piece of spiritual and philosophical wrangling. Whether you are an atheist or evangelical, you probably have some experience of the divine. What that means is truly being a part of the world. ( )
  jonbrammer | Jul 1, 2023 |
We experience God through our relationship with others--treating them as You rather than It, as ends not as means. So simple, yet so profound. ( )
  wahoo8895 | Nov 20, 2022 |
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The real reason for the popularity of the Occult Ancient East was pointed out long ago by Kipling: “Ship me somewhere East of Suez . . . where there ain’t no ten commandments . . .” If your religion is just exotic enough, you don’t need to bother about responsibility. You can get away with anything. There is nothing of this in Buber. For him the faith is the faith of his fathers, and the highest expression of that faith is its prayer, and prayer is the highest form of responsibility, the ultimately committed dialogue. This is an aesthetic statement, not a religious one, and in the final analysis all of Buber’s major works are works of art. I and Thou is one of the greatest prose poems, an Isaiah, and a Song of Myself.
lisäsi SnootyBaronet | muokkaaSaturday Review of Literature, Kenneth Rexroth
 
Jeg og Du er et kompakt verk, det er på 110 luftige sider. Man skal ikke la seg lure av den manglende ordrikdom. Tiden den tar å lese er ikke lang, men fordøyelsen av den er desto lenger. På mange måter verket lukket, nesten hermetisk, den presenterer oss ikke for et system i tradisjonell forstand, en oppskrift for erkjennelse, men verket er den hele tanke, og den hele tanke er alltid vanskelig å gripe, for man må inn i en annen verden, man må møte det på dens egne premisser, følge med. Ikke som med den uferdige tanke, den nesten ufrivillige avstikker fra common sense, fragmentarisk, umiddelbart sterk og overbevisende, som sukkertøy for den blafrende tanke, forståelig, men allikevel nesten allerede glemt. Jeg og Du maler i et annet leie, den lar seg ikke reduseres, fragmenteres og obduseres uten videre, jeg vil la det være. Jeg vil heller fantasere over hans bok, trekke dens innhold urimelig langt, bruke den som en rampe for utflukter inn i kjepphestenes og innfallenes rike.

I Jeg og Du lever stilene side om side, de kryper over i hverandre, viskes ut, fremheves igjen, forsvinner for å igjen dukke opp. Snart systematisk rissende, for så og dreies over i det prøvende. Det åpenbartes manende språk, hamrende, men her likevel mykt, glir over i det poetiske prøvende, videre utover til gysende bilder som nesten er bokstavelig uforståelige, som formidler den språklig sett umulige oppgave; å gripe livet. åpenbaringen blander seg med filosofien på en måte som for mitt utålmodige og ubevandrede blikk er uvant. For vi lever i en tid hvor dette ikke skal skje, skjer det likevel er det med vilje, som en lek, som et program, ikke av nød som formidlingen stiller en overfor. Genreblandingen som programerklæring blir aldri alvor, blir aldri tangering av det mulige, det bare forblir innenfor den trygge tiden. Den blir aldri nødvendig. For Buber har ikke teologien skilt seg fra filosofien, de lever der, ikke side om side men sammen, for ham har ikke metafysikken blitt et skjellsord, et tilstand reservert for prester og demagoger, han lar tanken blande seg med det uetterettelige.

"En sammenligning av den religiøse og den filosofiske antinomi kan tydeliggjøre dette. Kant kan relativisere den filosofiske motsetning mellom nødvendighet og frihet, idet han henviser den ene til fenomenverdenen og den annen til værensverdenen, slik at de to egentlig ikke strider mot hinannen lenger, men forlikes på samme måte som de verdener de er gyldige for. Hvis jeg imidlertid mener nødvendighet og frihet, ikke i tenkte verdener, men i den virkelighet hvor jeg står for Gud, hvis jeg vet: "Jeg er prisgitt," og samtidig vet: "Det kommer an på meg selv", da kan jeg ikke forsøke å slippe unna det paradoks som jeg har å leve, ved å henvise de uforenlige setninger til to adskilte gyldighetsområder. Da kan jeg heller ikke la noe teologisk kunstgrep hjelpe meg til en begrepsmessig forsoning. Jeg må ta det på meg å leve begge i ett, og når de leves, er de ett."
Buber forsøker ikke å unnslippe ved å benytte seg av de rubriserende vendinger, han dukker ikke ned i den vestlige drøm, katalogiseringens drøm, drømmen om å oppnå immunitet mot språkets og verdens tvetydighet. Derved skyter han seg selv ut i mørket, ut av den filosofiske katalog, ut av rekkene med klare kategorier, former og svar. Han blir, som det så idiotisk treffsikkert står på omslaget: "Et meditasjonsobjekt for tenkende moderne mennesker."
 

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"Today considered a landmark of twentieth-century intellectual history, I and Thou is also one of the most important books of Western theology. In it, Martin Buber, heavily influenced by the writings of Frederich Nietzsche, united the proto-Existentialists currents of modern German thought with the Judeo-Christian tradition, powerfully updating faith for modern times. Since its first appearance in German in 1923, this slender volume has become one of the epoch-making works of our time. Not only does it present the best thinking of one of the greatest Jewish minds in centuries, but has helped to mold approaches to reconciling God with the workings of the modern world and the consciousness of its inhabitants. This work is the centerpiece of Buber's groundbreaking philosophy. It lays out a view of the world in which human beings can enter into relationships using their innermost and whole being to form true partnerships. These deep forms of rapport contrast with those that spring from the Industrial Revolution, namely the common, but basically unethical, treatment of others as objects for our use and the incorrect view of the universe as merely the object of our senses, experiences. Buber goes on to demonstrate how these interhuman meetings are a reflection of the human meeting with God. For Buber, the essence of biblical religion consists in the fact that -- regardless of the infinite abyss between them -- a dialogue between man and God is possible. Ecumenical in its appeal, I and Thou nevertheless reflects the profound Talmudic tradition from which it has emerged. For Judaism, Buber's writings have been of revolutionary importance. No other writer has so shaken Judaism from parochialism and applied it so relevantly to the problems and concerns of contemporary men. On the other hand, the fundamentalist Protestant movement in this country has appropriated Buber's "I and Thou encounter" as the implicit basis of its doctrine of immediate faith-based salvation. In this light, Martin Buber has been viewed as the Jewish counterpart to Paul Tillich."--Publisher description.

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